Don't even think about means testing for anyone within 20 years of full retirement age. People makes assumptions when they plan for retirement and it is just wrong to change the rules half way through the game. I don't care how much money you have, if you are within 20 years of full retirement age, hand off. Full disclosure: SS does need reforms that should be phased in over time. I would, however, immediately remove the maximum SS tax that can be paid in a year. This never made sense to me. And yes, it would impact me.


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Originally Posted by Guest

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Several posters have said Ruibo Cruz, et al will reduce social security but Clinton said she is going to protect social security.
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No, it is NOT the posters who have said that some of the Republican candidates will reduce Social Security retirement benefits. It has been said by THE Republican candidates themselves.

Personally, I am in favor of means testing for Social Security retirement benefits. If a retired person has enough savings and investments, they should not get the full amount of retirement and have it based on a sliding scale from a small reduction to full reduction.

Yes, everyone would still be forced to pay into SS and Medicare.

Originally Posted by Guest

So much chatter on here about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. How many people actually know the purpose of the Clinton Foundation? I suggest you actually research the topic BEFORE writing your pathetic posts. You will find it is a charitable foundation that has helped milliions of people around the world. Of course, to most of the right wing nuts - and gang of 6 - helping people is not what they are about.

Talk about pathetic! You are completely oblivious to the fact that the Clintons have gotten incredibly wealthy ... net worth $150M and climbing, while engaging in "charity." WTF???????

They combine a means to "do good" while fleecing and often quasi-extorting supporters, utilize their prior government service and get RICH. Yet morons and credulous people like you fall for it constantly. They count upon having enough stupid people such that they can play on the liberal heartstings and know they will get no flack. ... and you definitely prove them correct in their assessment.

Question: if Mitt Romney or one of the Bush's got rich doing this, would you not even see a hint of scandal? Of course you would, and so would anyone. Yet, because of the Clinton name, you instantly transform into the 3 monkeys ... hear no evil, see no evil etc

What makes your situation so doubly pathetic is you are apparently too dense to realize you're being sold a bill of goods while the Clintons are cashing checks. God help us.

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Originally Posted by Guest

Socialist or Progressive? I have no problem with being called either one.

As far as forcing people to continue paying into Social Security and Medicare - just consider it a tax. We are "forced" into paying a school tax even though we have no school kids anymore, aren't we?

Ok, Mr. Socialist, your honesty is refreshing even if your politics are not.

Apples and oranges ...school taxes are a social good from which we all benefit ... ie presumably an educated populace but sometimes I wonder when I look at the PC crap in schools these days.

The original deal with social security was you pay in, and you get something back. My point about "forcing" things remains accurate ... socialists think nothing of forcing people to do things because after all, socialists are enlightened and know best ...much better in fact than the common people who work for a living.

For Clintons, speech income shows how their wealth is intertwined with charity - The Washington Post

There is absolutely nothing wrong here, and would pass any smell test that anyone could possibly envision.

I mean, who could object to what the Clintons do on ethical grounds?

It is obvious by the nature of some of the posts here about Clinton....it does not matter what she did or did not do, right or wrong none of this matters. She is a democrat and that is good enough.

Originally Posted by Guest

So much chatter on here about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. How many people actually know the purpose of the Clinton Foundation? I suggest you actually research the topic BEFORE writing your pathetic posts. You will find it is a charitable foundation that has helped milliions of people around the world. Of course, to most of the right wing nuts - and gang of 6 - helping people is not what they are about.

EVERYONE IS AWARE IT IS A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION !

There are many of such organizations throughout the world.

Problem is where you get the money from.....no matter your works, you cannot break the law to fund it.

Check out today's New York Times and read HER involvement AND the State Department in making some Russians rich with uranium in a deal followed by large contributions to the foundation. This is the NEW YORK TIMES, not some right wing conspiracy as she always calls it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us...pany.html?_r=0

Here's some more anti-Clinton Crime Family propaganda from a right wing rag that's obviously out to get them.

The Disastrous Clinton Post-Presidency -- NYMag

Originally Posted by Guest

Here's some more anti-Clinton Crime Family propaganda from a right wing rag that's obviously out to get them.

The Disastrous Clinton Post-Presidency -- NYMag

Is it the belief of the Clinton supporters that she has done no wrong?
That her agenda past and present is sqeaky clean?
In a court of law one's life can hang in the balance based on reasonable doubt.
Is there no doubt about Clinton's transgressions?

An unexpected endorsement:

https://youtu.be/LrvV99PwVTg

I believe the most disconcerting issue about Hillary Clinton is that her candidacy will implode too prematurely

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

WOW!

Some people are so creative with their imagination.


Other than an ever-increasing body count, Hillary's resume is quite thin:

THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT

That silly piece of tripe was discredited by snopes long ago. Try to keep up.

I think the situation with Chelsea is an excellent reason to tax inherited wealth ... let's give exemptions for family farms and small business, but for offspring of politicians, how about a zero exemption? God bless America.

Hillary, in an act of incredible political bravery, has spoken out forcefully against sexual assault.

Blog: Hillary condemns sexual assault (with a straight face)

https://www.insidehighered.com/quick...sexual-assault

Hillary said when women of any age face sexual assault, then no woman (except for Paula Jones, Juanita Brodderick and a bunch of others who don't count) is secure.

I wonder if the Clinton supporters know how silly they look defending this dishonest duo. Even some of the main street media have given up trying to defend this duo and the manner in which operate. Its not that they are clever at hiding their dishonesty its that supporters are too heavily and emotionally invested . Let go they are greedy immoral and self-centered people


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Here's an update on Hillary and items pertaining to the Clinton Crime Family Foundation as well

Hillary Clinton's Machine Sputters | RealClearPolitics