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Guest 03-10-2015 09:17 PM

Does anyone know if Hillary paid all the costs of her private server on her nickel, or did she charge back the costs to State Dept. ??

Guest 03-11-2015 08:52 AM

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Does anyone know if Hillary paid all the costs of her private server on her nickel, or did she charge back the costs to State Dept. ??

Cost of a server and the maintenance would be peanuts... There are bigger fish to worry about

Guest 03-11-2015 09:04 AM

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Does anyone know if Hillary paid all the costs of her private server on her nickel, or did she charge back the costs to State Dept. ??


Hilary Clinton said at her press conference yesterday that the private server was set up for President Clinton. Ex-presidents get an allowance from the government for their offices and related expenses.

Guest 03-11-2015 09:22 AM

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Cost of a server and the maintenance would be peanuts... There are bigger fish to worry about

You're missing the point ... if the USG reimbursed and paid the bill, there is much clearer legal authority by which to subpoena records and confiscate the server

Guest 03-11-2015 10:24 AM

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You're missing the point ... if the USG reimbursed and paid the bill, there is much clearer legal authority by which to subpoena records and confiscate the server

The point is it is a private server on private property.

Guest 03-11-2015 10:38 AM

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The point is it is a private server on private property.

BUT... she was conducting official government business on her "private server" and therein lies the issue. Hillary deleted 32,000 "private" emails. All official emails MUST be archived. There's a roughly 3-month period where there are NO emails. What happened to them?

She said she wrote to other government employees and they're archived so she complied. That's ridiculous on its face. How does an archivist obtain all of her official emails?...search thousands of employees email accounts looking for correspondence from Hillary?

Finally, how do we know her server was not hacked? If you were a foreign government wouldn't her emails to and from the president, military, other government officials be of interest? Wouldn't they perhaps glean great information about our foreign policy, negotiating position, alliances, etc...?

Guest 03-11-2015 11:24 AM

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BUT... she was conducting official government business on her "private server" and therein lies the issue. Hillary deleted 32,000 "private" emails. All official emails MUST be archived. There's a roughly 3-month period where there are NO emails. What happened to them?

She said she wrote to other government employees and they're archived so she complied. That's ridiculous on its face. How does an archivist obtain all of her official emails?...search thousands of employees email accounts looking for correspondence from Hillary?

Finally, how do we know her server was not hacked? If you were a foreign government wouldn't her emails to and from the president, military, other government officials be of interest? Wouldn't they perhaps glean great information about our foreign policy, negotiating position, alliances, etc...?



Two Names The Press Omits From Email Coverage: Colin Powell And Jeb Bush | Blog | Media Matters for America

All good questions, and now Jeb Bush wants to get into the act by announcing he did the exact same thing as Hilary by using a private server and hand selecting which emails were released.

How many GOP candidates are there? Like 17? Does this mean that the public has to read through thousands of emails from a dozen candidates? Fun times.

Guest 03-11-2015 11:47 AM

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Two Names The Press Omits From Email Coverage: Colin Powell And Jeb Bush | Blog | Media Matters for America

All good questions, and now Jeb Bush wants to get into the act by announcing he did the exact same thing as Hilary by using a private server and hand selecting which emails were released.

How many GOP candidates are there? Like 17? Does this mean that the public has to read through thousands of emails from a dozen candidates? Fun times.

Interesting...

But... Jeb and the other candidates are not under investigation. Sec of State Clinton is under Congressional investigation over her role/handling of the Benghazi attack on our embassy and all of her official emails have been subpoena'd. This is really the crux of this email server "issue".

Guest 03-11-2015 01:02 PM

Things are heating up for Hillary:


"The Associated Press filed a lawsuit Wednesday against the State Department to force the release of email correspondence and government documents from Hillary Rodham Clinton's tenure as secretary of state."


AP sues State Department, seeking access to Clinton records | Fox News

Guest 03-11-2015 01:16 PM

Mrs Clinton: I did not send classified e-mail out from my account

Mr. Clinton, I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky

Hillary established her private server the day she took oath as Secretary of state. This was paid for by taxpayers and was used to conduct the people's business.

Yet Hillary took it up herself to conceal these e-mails and when forced to do so had her people release only what she wanted the public to have access to.

She doesn't get to this on her terms. Her server was likely hacked. Her server has the answers to many questions that have not been answered.

Nixon's secretary only wiped away 18 minutes of tape and lost his job

Hillary's Democrats to their shame will come to her assistance defending this lie and we Americans are the worse for it

Guest 03-11-2015 02:20 PM

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The point is it is a private server on private property.

Your point, in this instance, is a perfect example of being Clintonian. We would expect nothing less.

Guest 03-11-2015 02:41 PM

I don't know how anyone could respect this woman. She and her husband have zero integrity.

Guest 03-11-2015 03:03 PM

To the poster you have got to be kidding me do you remember history at all.

Guest 03-11-2015 03:10 PM

In a poll released yesterday, Hilary Clinton leads Gov Scott Walker in his home state of Wisconsin by 52% to 43%. Walker also trails both VP Biden and Sen Elizabeth Warren in the same poll.


Clinton leads Walker in Wisconsin - Public Policy Polling

Guest 03-11-2015 03:26 PM

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In a poll released yesterday, Hilary Clinton leads Gov Scott Walker in his home state of Wisconsin by 52% to 43%. Walker also trails both VP Biden and Sen Elizabeth Warren in the same poll.


Clinton leads Walker in Wisconsin - Public Policy Polling

I'm pretty sure those poll results are before Hillary gets indicted for violation of the Federal Records Act and using classified information on a non-accredited "private" home server

Guest 03-11-2015 04:17 PM

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I'm pretty sure those poll results are before Hillary gets indicted for violation of the Federal Records Act and using classified information on a non-accredited "private" home server


Rest assured, that ain't never happening. Colin Powell and Condi Rice did exactly the same thing. As have numerous other politicians.

This isn't the smoking gun you'd like it to be.

Guest 03-11-2015 04:43 PM

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This isn't the smoking gun ...

I have a few questions:

If there's no smoking gun, meaning there's nothing to hide, then why didn't Hillary simply hand over the server to an INDEPENDENT and NEUTRAL third party and let that third party sort the private/work emails?

Once the work emails are separated from the private, Hillary is free to delete them and the public will never see them.

By refusing this request for a third party, and by already deleting some 32,000 emails Hillary deemed private, it sure gives an appearance of impropriety, does it not? Is her handling of this in keeping with a transparent Obama administration? Would this be indicative of her administration if she became president?

Finally, can you HONESTLY say this is the way you would like to see this type of "situation" handled?

Guest 03-11-2015 04:43 PM

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Rest assured, that ain't never happening. Colin Powell and Condi Rice did exactly the same thing. As have numerous other politicians.

This isn't the smoking gun you'd like it to be.

By saying Powell and Rice did "exactly the same thing" makes it abundantly clear you literally have no idea of what you're talking about

Guest 03-11-2015 04:54 PM

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By saying Powell and Rice did "exactly the same thing" makes it abundantly clear you literally have no idea of what you're talking about

:1rotfl:

Guest 03-11-2015 04:55 PM

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I have a few questions:

If there's no smoking gun, meaning there's nothing to hide, then why didn't Hillary simply hand over the server to an INDEPENDENT and NEUTRAL third party and let that third party sort the private/work emails?

Once the work emails are separated from the private, Hillary is free to delete them and the public will never see them.

By refusing this request for a third party, and by already deleting some 32,000 emails Hillary deemed private, it sure gives an appearance of impropriety, does it not? Is her handling of this in keeping with a transparent Obama administration? Would this be indicative of her administration if she became president?

Finally, can you HONESTLY say this is the way you would like to see this type of "situation" handled?



Hilary said yesterday at the press conference that the server was set up for President Clinton, so wouldn't handing over the server give a third party access to the president's records? Once this information was turned over, it would be just a matter of time until the National Inquirer would be publishing all kinds of garbage. What do people think are in Hilary's emails that is so earth-shattering?

Guest 03-11-2015 05:21 PM

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By saying Powell and Rice did "exactly the same thing" makes it abundantly clear you literally have no idea of what you're talking about

Perfect. Another hit and run. If you have some information, spit it out.

Guest 03-11-2015 05:45 PM

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Hilary said yesterday at the press conference that the server was set up for President Clinton, so wouldn't handing over the server give a third party access to the president's records? Once this information was turned over, it would be just a matter of time until the National Inquirer would be publishing all kinds of garbage. What do people think are in Hilary's emails that is so earth-shattering?

Bill Clinton, it's been reported, sent only two emails during his ENTIRE presidency.

I have no idea what's in her emails that she's so concerned about. Why not just hand them over and be done with it? It sure leads to an awful lot of speculation by reporters, politicians, those investigating her, and ordinary citizens of BOTH political parties. Nearly all the major news organizations are unsympathetic to her answers at yesterday's news conference. If there's nothing to hide, why create this artificial "scandal"? IF she's innocent, what does she gain by having this huge and ongoing controversy? How has she helped her case for being transparent?

Guest 03-11-2015 05:54 PM

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Bill Clinton, it's been reported, sent only two emails during his ENTIRE presidency.

I have no idea what's in her emails that she's so concerned about. Why not just hand them over and be done with it? It sure leads to an awful lot of speculation by reporters, politicians, those investigating her, and ordinary citizens of BOTH political parties. Nearly all the major news organizations are unsympathetic to her answers at yesterday's news conference. If there's nothing to hide, why create this artificial "scandal"? IF she's innocent, what does she gain by having this huge and ongoing controversy? How has she helped her case for being transparent?

Hilary Clinton said yesterday that she deleted her personal emails, so how does she hand over stuff that's been deleted? The other emails (55,000 pages) have been turned over to the State Department, and they will release them as soon as they declassify them.

Isn't it possible that Bill Clinton used the server for work other than emails; such as material about the Clinton Foundation?

Guest 03-11-2015 05:57 PM

If Hillary refuses to be forthright about turning over emails when she was sec of state, I can only imagine what a secretive, locked down administration she would create if she were to become president. This is not a great way to enter national politics, in my humble opinion.

Hardcore voters on the left and right will favor or oppose her regardless. What decides elections is those less ideologically committed swing voters in the middle. I can't imagine her secretive demeanor and refusal to allow a neutral third party to view the emails will help her candidacy. I believe it's an entirely reasonable request that she's refusing, and I think it will give many voters cause for concern. It just doesn't smell right.

Guest 03-11-2015 06:00 PM

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Hilary Clinton said yesterday that she deleted her personal emails, so how does she hand over stuff that's been deleted? The other emails (55,000 pages) have been turned over to the State Department, and they will release them as soon as they declassify them.

Isn't it possible that Bill Clinton used the server for work other than emails; such as material about the Clinton Foundation?

Whoever installed those servers, no doubt installed BACKUP servers.

Personally I think you're "warm" with regards to the Clinton Foundation and its donors, but I think you're incorrect with regard to the gender.

Guest 03-11-2015 06:48 PM

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If Hillary refuses to be forthright about turning over emails when she was sec of state, I can only imagine what a secretive, locked down administration she would create if she were to become president. This is not a great way to enter national politics, in my humble opinion.

Hardcore voters on the left and right will favor or oppose her regardless. What decides elections is those less ideologically committed swing voters in the middle. I can't imagine her secretive demeanor and refusal to allow a neutral third party to view the emails will help her candidacy. I believe it's an entirely reasonable request that she's refusing, and I think it will give many voters cause for concern. It just doesn't smell right.

Do not worry your old grey head about it any further. Sec. Clinton will be the next President of the USA for 8 years.

Just get outside, play golf, enjoy a Happy Hour now and then, and be content living in The Villages knowing your country is being managed by a fine woman.

Guest 03-11-2015 09:09 PM

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Do not worry your old grey head about it any further. Sec. Clinton will be the next President of the USA for 8 years.

Just get outside, play golf, enjoy a Happy Hour now and then, and be content living in The Villages knowing your country is being managed by a fine woman.


Absolutely right. Remember, if you can, that you are now in the minority. The voting blocks that are being catered to are women, African-Americans, Hispanics, voters under age 35, gay/lesbian - most of this block is Liberal, social minded, and do not want to be lectured to by (nothing derogatory meant, just descriptive) old white men who have made careers out of politics.

Get used to it.

Guest 03-11-2015 10:45 PM

trailer, hillary the movie. - Bing Videos

Guest 03-11-2015 11:38 PM

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What a hag! :0000000000luvmyhors:0000000000luvmyhors Could you imagine be married to it? :rant-rave:

Guest 03-12-2015 11:05 AM

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Absolutely right. Remember, if you can, that you are now in the minority. The voting blocks that are being catered to are women, African-Americans, Hispanics, voters under age 35, gay/lesbian - most of this block is Liberal, social minded, and do not want to be lectured to by (nothing derogatory meant, just descriptive) old white men who have made careers out of politics.

Get used to it.

That's a nice racist and derogatory comment ... We would expect nothing less from an authoritarian leftist mindset which is so perfectly exemplified in your post

Guest 03-12-2015 11:11 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1027169)
Do not worry your old grey head about it any further. Sec. Clinton will be the next President of the USA for 8 years.

Just get outside, play golf, enjoy a Happy Hour now and then, and be content living in The Villages knowing your country is being managed by a fine woman.

"Fine woman" ... the level of denial and pretzel twisting logic you have to endure is simply amazing to watch ... ie truly. Hildebeast could rob a bank and you would no doubt find a way to rationalize it

Guest 03-12-2015 11:22 AM

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Perfect. Another hit and run. If you have some information, spit it out.

The information is out there for anyone to obtain. You didn't bother to do any research and simply relied upon Dem talking points that you regurgitated back in a lemming like fashion. Then you got upset when I said you literally don't know what you're talking about, and that remains an accurate observation

Guest 03-12-2015 03:23 PM

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That's a nice racist and derogatory comment ... We would expect nothing less from an authoritarian leftist mindset which is so perfectly exemplified in your post


As stated, YOU (old, white men) are the new minority. Your votes are insignificant since there are fewer left every day.

GET USED TO IT.

Guest 03-12-2015 05:02 PM

Who the hell does Clinton think she is? She doesn't have to follow Government security protocal on emails? What else is she hiding? And why should we trust her opinion on what emails should be turned over or not. She has already proven to be a sneak. How many has she sent out of the country that are not saved or backed up by our Government. Who would know what she is saying and dealing with no sensor?

The fact that she believes it is owed her astounds me...

Guest 03-12-2015 05:19 PM

I have to agree - old white men and labor unions have served their purpose and it is time to move. Personally I am looking at the likes of Rubio. Appears to be honest, young and fresh. Hillary is old news - same old, same old only in a skirt!

Guest 03-12-2015 05:21 PM

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Who the hell does Clinton think she is? She doesn't have to follow Government security protocal on emails? What else is she hiding? And why should we trust her opinion on what emails should be turned over or not. She has already proven to be a sneak. How many has she sent out of the country that are not saved or backed up by our Government. Who would know what she is saying and dealing with no sensor?

The fact that she believes it is owed her astounds me...



Hillary Clinton - Latest 2014 Polls and Approval Ratings - POLITICO

Maybe because she's polling at 60% in the democratic primary and beating every possible republican contender, and 80% plus of democrats support her, would be my guess.

Guest 03-12-2015 06:18 PM

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As stated, YOU (old, white men) are the new minority. Your votes are insignificant since there are fewer left every day.

GET USED TO IT.

I repeat ... your ongoing string of semi-deranged,racist rants (often incoherent ) give us all insight into why people like you, should you ever get in power, can be counted on to screw things up totally.

As I recall you live just off the coast of Venezuela ... how fitting

Guest 03-12-2015 06:25 PM

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Hillary Clinton - Latest 2014 Polls and Approval Ratings - POLITICO

Maybe because she's polling at 60% in the democratic primary and beating every possible republican contender, and 80% plus of democrats support her, would be my guess.

There is no live lost between Obama and the Clintons. There is a rumor floating around that Valerie Jarrett is working behind the scenes to dethrone Hildebeast. It's interesting and has some plausibility ...it's clear HRC botched her press conference so this will be playing itself out over the next few weeks

Guest 03-12-2015 06:39 PM

I know that, for Hillaryphiles, no amount of information regarding her private email system will ever prove persuasive …

However for those who still retain an ability for assessing evidence and critical thinking, this story may be interesting to you.

A leading FOIA expert says her system was “laughable”

Freedom of Information Act expert: Clinton's email system 'laughable' - Nick Gass - POLITICO

Guest 03-12-2015 07:22 PM

In respects to a Clinton, dont forget Bill said (I did not inhale) and I did not have sexual relation with that women) need I say more.


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