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Guest 03-06-2016 05:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1195100)
Turnout to vote in Republican primaries = many democrats voting for Trump

That is one reason in these open primaries, he is winning but cannot surpass a certain percentage. Closed primaries coming up.

In addition, many are turning out to vote against Trump.

I did not mean to diminish the post but it made no sense at all.

Sure there are Dems crossing over to vote in primary, but I will assure you in a general election, the black vote turn out may exceed that for Obama and the Hispanic vote will be simply amazing and they will not be voting for Trump.

Historically, the black turnout is light. The only time we have had a large black turnout in the last couple decades is because of Obama. I doubt you will see the effort for Hillary. What's in it for them? They know she is a liar and could care less about them. That is well known in D.C.

I guess no one knows what will happen in Nov, until Nov. Predictions have been way off this year.

Guest 03-06-2016 05:29 PM

Who Are Trump's Supporters? What are the demographics?

Guest 03-06-2016 06:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1195100)
Turnout to vote in Republican primaries = many democrats voting for Trump

That is one reason in these open primaries, he is winning but cannot surpass a certain percentage. Closed primaries coming up.

In addition, many are turning out to vote against Trump.

I did not mean to diminish the post but it made no sense at all.

Sure there are Dems crossing over to vote in primary, but I will assure you in a general election, the black vote turn out may exceed that for Obama and the Hispanic vote will be simply amazing and they will not be voting for Trump.

I agree, very few Dems will cross the line to vote for Trump. I have met so many Republicans that don't want to vote for Trump, and/or will do so reluctantly. When you start off with so many Republican candidates, (12 I think?), a lot of money and organizing goes into getting out the vote. If you only have 2 candidates, as with the Democrats, there is going to be less turnout, simply because there are only two candidates, and because Hillary is the presumed nominee. Its not rocket science.

Guest 03-06-2016 06:30 PM

Tootsie Rolls?
 
I voted today in the Florida primary at the Laurel Manor recreation center. No line at all!

There was a bowl of bite size Tootsie Rolls on the way out. You would think that Donald Trump would have splurged on Godiva chocolates, wouldn't you? :wave:

Guest 03-06-2016 06:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1195140)
I agree, very few Dems will cross the line to vote for Trump. I have met so many Republicans that don't want to vote for Trump, and/or will do so reluctantly. When you start off with so many Republican candidates, (12 I think?), a lot of money and organizing goes into getting out the vote. If you only have 2 candidates, as with the Democrats, there is going to be less turnout, simply because there are only two candidates, and because Hillary is the presumed nominee. Its not rocket science.

You are right. That "not rocket science" is being lost on all those Trump supporters that only listen to his mouth and ignore the questions about how he intends to do any of it.

Sad, he is really playing on fears and such. In Michigan they say he is attracting Democrats because of the job situation there. It is sad because if you listen to him an lay what he says alongside reality, it aint gonna happen and those democrats will be voting on the left side.

Guest 03-06-2016 06:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1195125)
Who Are Trump's Supporters? What are the demographics?

Blue collar, not educated, rural voters for the most part.

HOWEVER, in all honestly, he is getting more than that but his voters tend to be blue collar AND WHITE by the way...a fact not lost on the left in preparing for the general election

Guest 03-06-2016 07:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1195100)
Turnout to vote in Republican primaries = many democrats voting for Trump

That is one reason in these open primaries, he is winning but cannot surpass a certain percentage. Closed primaries coming up.

In addition, many are turning out to vote against Trump.

I did not mean to diminish the post but it made no sense at all.

Sure there are Dems crossing over to vote in primary, but I will assure you in a general election, the black vote turn out may exceed that for Obama and the Hispanic vote will be simply amazing and they will not be voting for Trump.

Actually, I think Trump will get 10-15% and maybe as much at 20% of the black vote. All he has to do is talk honestly to them about how the Democratic party plays them for suckers each year while keeping them down on the plantation.

Guest 03-06-2016 07:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1195166)
Actually, I think Trump will get 10-15% and maybe as much at 20% of the black vote. All he has to do is talk honestly to them about how the Democratic party plays them for suckers each year while keeping them down on the plantation.

Actually, you don't get votes that way.

You need to offer solutions

Guest 03-06-2016 07:58 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1195166)
Actually, I think Trump will get 10-15% and maybe as much at 20% of the black vote. All he has to do is talk honestly to them about how the Democratic party plays them for suckers each year while keeping them down on the plantation.

The facts don't back up your "hypothesis". According to a recent paper from Zoltan L. Hajnal and Jeremy D. Horowitz—both political scientists at the University of California–San Diego—there’s clear evidence that when the nation is governed by Democrats, black well-being “improves dramatically” across multiple dimensions.

Specifically, looking at data from 1948 to 2010, Hajnal and Horowitz found that “African Americans tend to experience substantial gains under Democratic presidents whereas they tend to incur significant losses or remain stagnant under Republicans.” That is the reason blacks tend to vote Democratic, because they are voting in their own self interest.

Guest 03-06-2016 08:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1195147)
You are right. That "not rocket science" is being lost on all those Trump supporters that only listen to his mouth and ignore the questions about how he intends to do any of it.

Sad, he is really playing on fears and such. In Michigan they say he is attracting Democrats because of the job situation there. It is sad because if you listen to him an lay what he says alongside reality, it aint gonna happen and those democrats will be voting on the left side.

I'm not convinced he is attracting Democrats as voters. According to the latest polls, in a hypothetical general election matchup, Michigan voters prefer both Clinton and Sanders over either Trump or Cruz. Clinton polled better than Trump, 53 percent to 36 percent, in a general election matchup, Sanders topped Trump by a 56-34 margin. Trump may appeal to Independents, but at this point anyways, it doesn't appear to be enough for Trump to win.

Guest 03-14-2016 07:24 AM

Republicans deserve what they got. Had seven years to find a candidate and failed to do so because of lack of consensus building among their constituency.

Guest 03-14-2016 10:33 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1195167)
Actually, you don't get votes that way.

You need to offer solutions

You may have hit the nail on the head!
"...offer soultions..."
That is exactly what Obama did...he offered in return for electing him.

However they soon found out and demonstrated over his 7 year reign they found out all he did/does is offer.....very little delivery of anything that does not fit his agenda.

So anybody "offering" to do better than Obama will get the vote of the blacks and other dems who have come up empty handed or worse off.

Until proven otherwise Trump is offering to do more than BS his way into office......which is the crony, business as usual politician operating mode....Obama as golden example.

Guest 03-14-2016 10:45 AM

Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ises/obameter/

If you enjoy reading.

Guest 03-14-2016 10:06 PM

And at the tax payers expense

Guest 03-14-2016 10:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1198765)
And at the tax payers expense

What do you mean? You forgot to include all the sentences that preceded that last thought.


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