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Guest 04-12-2016 01:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211695)
Hate embarrases the party. It's hard to be both Christ-like and support hate. The Pope get's it.

How would an atheist liberal know? And I am not Catholic so what the Pope says doesn't mean anything to me.

Guest 04-12-2016 02:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211702)
How would an atheist liberal know? And I am not Catholic so what the Pope says doesn't mean anything to me.

When the Pope said "Do onto others......" Congress wept. Ask yourself why.
There is something inside of us that knows right from wrong.

Guest 04-13-2016 06:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211707)
There is something inside of us that knows right from wrong.

Then why do they keep screwing us? Why do we keep voting for KNOWN liars and thieves?

Guest 04-13-2016 06:44 AM

Uninformed, blind partisan, stupid, lethargic, do nothing we the people +++++

all those that do not want the freebies to stop =

re-elected crooks, liars and theives

Guest 04-13-2016 07:40 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211707)
When the Pope said "Do onto others......" Congress wept. Ask yourself why.
There is something inside of us that knows right from wrong.

Really? Which ones wept? The Pope does not have the franchise on a Bible verse that he USED in a speech.

Guest 04-13-2016 07:42 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211925)
Then why do they keep screwing us? Why do we keep voting for KNOWN liars and thieves?

The reason why liars and thieves such as Hillary get elected is because they are being elected by atheists that have no conception of what the Pope said.

Guest 04-13-2016 08:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211962)
Really? Which ones wept? The Pope does not have the franchise on a Bible verse that he USED in a speech.

see for yourself

Unless Trump had the words copyrighted that's what his point was. It's a universal truth----

or was this bait---hard to tell who is speaking their mind or starting an argument for argument's sake

Guest 04-13-2016 08:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211974)
see for yourself

Unless Trump had the words copyrighted that's what his point was. It's a universal truth----

or was this bait---hard to tell who is speaking their mind or starting an argument for argument's sake

I'm just wondering how anything the Pope said would have any influence on liberals? They are mostly atheists, and the gays are adamantly against the Bible or anything that suggests that they are deviant and abnormal. So, other than the purpose of using the Pope and/or the Bible in an argument against conservatives, what is the purpose of bringing the Pope into the discussion? The Pope is a foreigner, not American and should not even be considered in American politics. He is after all, from a socialist country and leans that way in his politics. His addressing congress was just their purpose of using him toward their political agenda, whether conservative or liberal.

He is a socialist
He is against gay deviancy
He is against abortion
He is against a border wall, yet has one surrounding the Vatican city.

So, anyway you look at him, he is a good man but NOT an American and should not be considered in any way an influence to the American Way of life.

Guest 04-13-2016 10:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211988)
I'm just wondering how anything the Pope said would have any influence on liberals? They are mostly atheists, and the gays are adamantly against the Bible or anything that suggests that they are deviant and abnormal. So, other than the purpose of using the Pope and/or the Bible in an argument against conservatives, what is the purpose of bringing the Pope into the discussion? The Pope is a foreigner, not American and should not even be considered in American politics. He is after all, from a socialist country and leans that way in his politics. His addressing congress was just their purpose of using him toward their political agenda, whether conservative or liberal.

He is a socialist
He is against gay deviancy
He is against abortion
He is against a border wall, yet has one surrounding the Vatican city.

So, anyway you look at him, he is a good man but NOT an American and should not be considered in any way an influence to the American Way of life.

I was responding to:Really? Which ones wept? The Pope does not have the franchise on a Bible verse that he USED in a speech.

I can only speak for myself. I am open minded and love this man for the direction he has chosen for the Catholic Faith. He is honest and sincere and cares for the least of us. I can understand why some in congress were watery eyed during his speech. When I was young there use to be a slogan “You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s Real Jewish Rye”

Why do you cubbyhole people?

Guest 04-13-2016 10:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212067)
I was responding to:Really? Which ones wept? The Pope does not have the franchise on a Bible verse that he USED in a speech.

I can only speak for myself. I am open minded and love this man for the direction he has chosen for the Catholic Faith. He is honest and sincere and cares for the least of us. I can understand why some in congress were watery eyed during his speech. When I was young there use to be a slogan “You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s Real Jewish Rye”

Why do you cubbyhole people?

It enables those with limited capacities to respond without much if any thought.
Canned positions per cubbyhole.

Guest 04-13-2016 11:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212071)
It enables those with limited capacities to respond without much if any thought.
Canned positions per cubbyhole.

Either that's the first time you gave an answer I respect or someone answered for you.

Guest 04-13-2016 12:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212067)
I was responding to:Really? Which ones wept? The Pope does not have the franchise on a Bible verse that he USED in a speech.

I can only speak for myself. I am open minded and love this man for the direction he has chosen for the Catholic Faith. He is honest and sincere and cares for the least of us. I can understand why some in congress were watery eyed during his speech. When I was young there use to be a slogan “You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s Real Jewish Rye”

Why do you cubbyhole people?

And what if anything, does this have to do with embarrassed Republicans? Like the question went, who wept? You can put a video up, but what does that mean? It means that some of those that wept were shown. Why did they weep? Are you suggesting that one phrase caused it? And since when does one side get all the benefit of "cubbyhole people?" Are you liberals not famous for diverting and asking stupid questions, just to change the subject so that they don't have to add to the conversation?

If you READ the response, you will see that I said that the Pope was a good man. If liberals wish to use religion as a defense for not committing to a conversation, go for it. Maybe you liberals will learn something. But, just because the majority of conservatives are Christian, doesn't mean being Christian is a liability. Only atheist liberals think being religious is a weakness to be used against conservatives. And feel free to argue that liberals are Christian too. Facts show that there are a higher majority of conservative Christians than Liberals that claim to be Christian.

So, now that you have diverted from the topic, feel free to either go on your merry (I did not say gay) way or return to the topic. Your choice.

Guest 04-13-2016 01:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212124)
And what if anything, does this have to do with embarrassed Republicans? Like the question went, who wept? You can put a video up, but what does that mean? It means that some of those that wept were shown. Why did they weep? Are you suggesting that one phrase caused it? And since when does one side get all the benefit of "cubbyhole people?" Are you liberals not famous for diverting and asking stupid questions, just to change the subject so that they don't have to add to the conversation?

If you READ the response, you will see that I said that the Pope was a good man. If liberals wish to use religion as a defense for not committing to a conversation, go for it. Maybe you liberals will learn something. But, just because the majority of conservatives are Christian, doesn't mean being Christian is a liability. Only atheist liberals think being religious is a weakness to be used against conservatives. And feel free to argue that liberals are Christian too. Facts show that there are a higher majority of conservative Christians than Liberals that claim to be Christian.

So, now that you have diverted from the topic, feel free to either go on your merry (I did not say gay) way or return to the topic. Your choice.

Here's my response:Will this GOP embaressment ever stop?
Did everyone realize the person who started this post spelled embarrassment incorrectly. That's a pretty clever way to ask a question and answer it at the same time.

Guest 04-13-2016 01:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1212165)
Here's my response:Will this GOP embaressment ever stop?
Did everyone realize the person who started this post spelled embarrassment incorrectly. That's a pretty clever way to ask a question and answer it at the same time.

Is proper spelling a prerequisite to posting on here? If so, I will never be able to participate.

To answer the original question, spelled correctly or not, I would suggest that the GOP will no longer be embarrassed when Americans submit themselves to the authority of the Constitution and quit trying to change it to reflect European failed values and policies. Meaning, when liberals abandon socialism and learn to respect American patriotism and love America for what it stands for, not what it can do for them. The GOP can stop being embarrassed of the Democrat party when it becomes less anti-American and more self-reliant and willing to sacrifice as much as they are willing to sacrifice the efforts of others. Yes, the GOP is embarrassed of the unembarrassed liberals that won't make the effort to make this a great country again.

Guest 04-13-2016 01:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1203869)
My gosh, how can anyone actually wear a Trump or Cruz tshirt anywhere without feeling like a blustering fool. I guess i shouldnt be surprised as the GOP left no stone unturned with Obama, the nationality, the birth certificate, his religion, twking your guns ... Well welcome to the nightmare your party started with personal attacks and the lack of respect for the office of the presidency. The fight for your nomination finally did it, the wives, the affairs ... If it was not so pathetic I would sit back and just enjoy it. But instead of being ashamed you simply attack the president for not coming back to Washington for a terrorist attack in Europe. i guess Reagan not even stopping his vacation when Marines were killed in Beruit didnt count.

Party on Trump and Cruz supporters.

For starters, embarrassment is incorrectly spelled.

I think the question is aimed at the GOP to answer about the GOP.

I'm not in any party so maybe I'm not supposed to contribute but here goes: I think there are too many GOP members with opposing viewpoints including racism and gay rights. Other wise how could you explain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_..._United_States
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans.

I also think the word conservative is misleading.

holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion
is the meaning outside of politics

but a political conservative believes
An aversion to rapid change; a belief that tradition and prevailing social norms often contain within them handed down wisdom; and mistrust of attempts to remake society so that it conforms to an abstract account of what would be just or efficient.
A desire to preserve the political philosophy and rules of government articulated in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
A belief that it is imperative to preserve traditional morality, as it is articulated in the Bible, through cultural norms.
A belief that it is imperative to preserve traditional morality, as it is articulated in the Bible, using cultural norms and the power of the state.
An embrace of free-market capitalism, and a belief in the legitimacy of market outcomes.
A belief that America is an exceptional nation, a shining city on a hill, whose rightful role is leader of the free world.
A belief that America should export its brand of democracy through force of arms.
The conviction that government should undertake, on behalf of the American polity, grand projects that advance our "national greatness" and ennoble our characters.
An embrace of localism, community and family ties, human scale, and a responsibility to the future.
A belief that America shouldn't intervene in the affairs of other nations except to defend ourselves from aggression and enforce contracts and treaties.
A desire to return to the way things once were.
Affinity for, identification with, or embrace of Red America's various cultural cues. (For example, gun ownership, a preference for single-family homes oriented around highways rather than urban enclaves organized around public transit, embrace of country music, disdain for arugula and fancy mustard, etc.)
Disdain for American liberalism, multiculturalism, identity politics, affirmative action, welfare, European-style social policies, and the left and its ideas generally.
A desire to be left alone by government, often coupled with a belief that being left alone is a natural right.
A principled belief in federalism.
The belief that taxes should be lower and government smaller.
The belief that the national debt and deficits put America in peril.
The belief that whenever possible, government budgets should be balanced.
Consciousness of the fallibility of man, and an awareness of the value of skepticism, doubt and humility.
Realism in foreign policy.
Non-interventionism in foreign policy.
What Americans Mean When They Say They're Conservative - The Atlantic

If you read the post you will see how different Republicans believe in different principles.

So what embarrases one party member would be source of pride to another. Would you agree?


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