You liberals seem to always be so worried about "food, shelter, clothing, shoes, etc." for illegals. But, I have NEVER heard even ONE liberal publicly express ANY concern for the tens of thousands of homeless veterans. Why is that?

Too many to list!? You can't list one! You said Obama broke laws, name the incidences. You said he defied the Supreme Curt ban on drilling for oil in the gulf. Did he break the law? When you make acusations, you should be able to back them up.

Ok, so that girl that refused to issue marriage licenses in defiance of the court ruling, didn't break any laws. Got it.

Are you going to deny that Obama has been accused of breaking or disregarding laws, and you don't recall even a few of them? Friend, you really need to get your head out of the sand.

Liberals ALWAYS conveniently miss it. And divert when you nail them down. I've seen rats caught in a corner that have nothing on liberals at getting away from the subject.

Illegals in Emergency rooms - No, I am not callous but they wouldn't be there if they weren't here. It costs us by raising our health insurance cost.

Illegals getting free college or resident status college -- I've seen citizens get turned away because classes were too full. Thanks to illegals.

Illegals costing us when they have accidents on the road, not having insurance. Wouldn't have to worry about that if they weren't here.

I think you are about three feet too low....:a20:

My head is no more in the sand than yours. He's been accused of breaking the law but he hasn't been indicted and doesn't deserve to be and you still haven't told me what laws he has broken.

The Conservatives have certainly done their share of diverting on this thread. Can't give me any facts or links on Obama breaking the law. ANd speaking of that, give me some facts and links on illegals getting free college. And as far as accidents on the road, foreign subjects have to take an international driving test to get a license. That doesn't keep them from driving but there are many more Americans whose licenses have been suspended for whatever reasons and they continue to drive. Look at some of the accidents in The Villages that have been caused by drunk drivers who shouldn't have a license; you think that doesn't cost us?!

Well said. Let's face it. We've all made up our minds. Most of the people on this thread are anti Obama and anti progressive thoughts. Those of us with a more liberal bent have our opinions. So no one is going to change anyone else's mind.

That's easy to answer ... liberals (most of them) range between disliking and hating the military ... thus, why would they want to take care of vets when they can focus on illegal aliens or, most recently, 200,000 Muslims from Syria.

Liberalism is a debilitating mental illness, and over the long haul, results in societal suicide. Allah Akbar, ya'll.

How very lawyerly sounding.

There is no evidence........

There is no proof........

One of my favorites....we can't confrim or deny.......

When was the last time someone answered the question? Did he or didn't he.....cut the legal and partisan dodge and weave.

Foreign subjects have to take an international driving test? That is very, very funny and just proves your ignorance. I've had an international drivers license, as well as drivers licenses issued in other countries and never once took a test. As far as illegals are concerned, what in the world are you talking about? You are in left field. And as far as justifying breaking the law by saying "everyone is doing it" that just doesn't fly.

I am not saying that "everyone is doing it", I am saying that there are far more "legals" causing accidents "that cost us". Not sure what you are referring to about "illegals", maybe you should read the jibberish that one of your fellow conservatives posted to which I responded. I'm not surprised that you couldn't figure out what I was talking about, that seems to run as a theme. And when they don't understand, they make it up.

Thank you!

Whenever I see the term "progressive" it gives me a chuckle ... it's usually used as a substitute for the term "liberal" (not in your case though) because it helps divert attention from the reality that most "liberal" positions in contemporary society are synonymous with just plain looney. I'll spare you the list ... but it's easy enough to produce.

You can't post without getting personal?

Dear Guests:

When Bill Buckley was asked to describe the difference between a Democrat and a Republican he replied "if a man was out in the ocean in danger of drowning a Republican would throw a life preserver half way out so that the man would swim halfway in to grab t while the Democrat would throw it twice the distance from the man's position and he would have to sim out twice the distance to retrieve it.

When Obama won election in 2008 the liberal media bounced on Bush mercilessly. I e-mailed George Bush and said to him that history would be kinder. I have explained that twice Wall Street Journal guest columnist had mentioned that prior to the Iraq invasion Iraqi republican guards replaced over night syrian guards at their border . WMD may not been found but it doesn;t mean they never were Saddam's removal will prove out to be a sound strategy.

In that same vein how ill history treat Fast& Furious, IRS scandal, Benghazi, Iran Agreement, the multitudes of fiats executed by Obama, ObamaCare, Dodd Frank, Obama's handling of the economy etc etc etc?

Personal Best Regards:

You are still lost in your mind. More legals causing accidents, means what? That it's ok for illegals to have drivers licenses? Talk about jibberish! And the part about international drivers licenses test caught you in a lie. I noticed how you diverted from that also. You should probably step back and quit attacking other posters or else come up with some facts to defend your position. If you want to start a thread related to Laws Obama has broken, then do so. A casual statement doesn't warrant your continuous badgering. If someone makes a statement that you don't like,then look it up and dispute the details if you wish. If you can't find evidence for their statement, then ask them to provide links or what not. You are not fooling anyone when you tell folks to prove statements they made that are constantly being discussed in the news. If you wish to say something like "that hasn't been proved" then you may have a legitimate argument.

Obviously, you and your fellow "conservatives" do not want to be identified as being Progressive - which means going forward.

The opposite of progressive is Regressive - which means "going backwards".

As I am very happy to be a Progressive, I am just going to be referring to you and your backward thinking ilk as Regressives.

By the way, Regresssives are not relevant in today's world. Get out of the way of progress or get run over!!

When a liberal speaks, it is either one way or the opposite. No compromise, no gray area, just either you agree or you are the enemy. Got news for you friend, that is just plain stupid thinking. You totally gave away your liberal stance by saying if you are not going forward, you have to be going backward. that is not true in any way or form. You talk about opposites, like they are a rule. They aren't, but you are too ignorant to understand. That is not an attack, just an observation.

Progressive=
1. happening or developing gradually or in stages; proceeding step by step.
"a progressive decline in popularity"
synonyms: continuing, continuous, increasing, growing, developing, ongoing, accelerating, escalating; More
gradual, step-by-step, cumulative
"progressive deterioration"(of a disease or ailment) increasing in severity or extent. "progressive liver failure"
(of taxation or a tax) increasing as a proportion of the sum taxed as that sum increases.
"steeply progressive income taxes"

2. (of a group, person, or idea) favoring or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.

I consider Liberals to be a progressive decline in democracy, ethics and morals. Unlike you, I don't see your progressiveness as a positive thing.

Conservative = holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.

I've looked at several definitions of conservative and have yet to see it associated with being "regressive." (spelled properly, I believe).

But, if you are listening to your messiah in D.C. then its either a poor/bad agreement or bill, or a fight or war. One extreme or the other extreme. NO compromise.

So, liberals are just spoiled children, requiring their way or no way. Their way or the opposite way.

Liberal supporters continue to re-define anything to make it fit their position or agenda.

pro·gres·sive
prəˈɡresiv/
adjective
adjective: progressive

1.
happening or developing gradually or in stages; proceeding step by step.
"a progressive decline in popularity"
synonyms: continuing, continuous, increasing, growing, developing, ongoing, accelerating, escalating; More
gradual, step-by-step, cumulative
"progressive deterioration"
(of a disease or ailment) increasing in severity or extent.
"progressive liver failure"
(of taxation or a tax) increasing as a proportion of the sum taxed as that sum increases.
"steeply progressive income taxes"
(of a card game or dance) involving a series of sections for which participants successively change place or relative position.
archaic
engaging in or constituting forward motion.
2.
(of a group, person, or idea) favoring or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.
"a relatively progressive governor"
favoring or promoting change or innovation.
"a progressive art school"
synonyms: modern, liberal, advanced, forward-thinking, enlightened, enterprising, innovative, pioneering, dynamic, bold, avant-garde, reforming, reformist, radical; informalgo-ahead
"progressive views"
antonyms: conservative, reactionary
relating to or denoting a style of rock music popular especially in the 1980s and characterized by classical influences, the use of keyboard instruments, and lengthy compositions.
3.
Grammar
denoting an aspect or tense of a verb that expresses an action in progress, e.g., am writing, was writing.

noun
noun: progressive; plural noun: progressives; noun: progressive proof; plural noun: progressive proofs

1.
a person advocating or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.
synonyms: innovator, reformer, reformist, liberal, libertarian
"he is very much a progressive"
2.
Grammar
a progressive tense or aspect.
"the present progressive"

I have underscored the part of the definition that applies to you and those like you.

Oh by the way it does not mean moving forward....that is poetic liscence to suit the subject (actually this is just bait to give some a bone to knaw upon).

Interesting. Cancer is also progressive...something for you to look forward to, I guess.

The one common thread through all posts like this is the repitition. Never a dialogue. Just pull the string and let the recording play again and again and again and.................
As interactive as a looped tape recording.

You are quite right. Trying to educate the ignorant is very trying. They parrot Huffington Post and think they are being progressive. They associate radical with being progressive/new. They rename an old idea to make them believe it is something new and progressive. What a misuse of educational funding.

They:
Rename socialism to liberalism
Rename liberalism to progressive
Abnormal to normal
deviant to accepted
Male to female
gender to non-gender specific
He and She to IT
Bible to book of fairy tales

And God to government

You continue to reliably miss the point ... "progressive" as you use it is anything but that ... and nothing more than a nicer sounding word than "liberal" which, as we all increasingly realize, reflects a debilitating mental illness which puts you guys into truly looney policy positions. Sigh ... you're hopeless.

:agree: absolutely. But, what are you going to do? They don't learn until they grow up. By then, it may be too late for them. The children of today are going to be the losers of tomorrow. What a shame. Anyone that hasn't learned by the time they reach our age, are mentally impaired. I didn't want to use the forbidden term, banned by PC -- retarded.

That pretty much sums it up.

The only thing to add ... common sense becomes visibly deranged looneyism

Y usted, estupido.

Si quieres participar en este foro politico por favor, aprender a hablar ingles. Imbecile.

You are a lot nicer than me. I would not have been so civil in my response with my limited Spanish. My Spanish vulgarity is somewhat limited.