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Rockyrd 12-04-2016 05:08 PM

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This is not a HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL GAME. Our TEAM IS AMERICA not DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN PARTY.
OBAMA himself proved he should not have been president.
Obama hitched his election to the worst that is America. Obama, our first BLACK PRESIDENT was granted a unique opportunity to put a major dent in race issues. Instead OBAMA CHOSE to fan sparks into forest fires. THINK-on his exit Obama leaves our country/MY COUNTRY thoroughly divided not only along the lines of RACE but now SUCCESS ENVY is the LIBERAL VIEW. DAMN IT-if you are willing to work HARD. if failure is simply not a concept in your thoughts YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. I AM PROOF OF THAT.
For the CLINTONS they are CRIMINALS. I must admit they have proven to be GREAT at getting away with crimes.

RE:KKK
THE FACTS ARE-Trump did not seek the support of the KKK.
CLOSER TO HOME-are YOU AWARE THAT HILLARY CHOSE TO SPEAK FOR THE TRAVON MARTIN GROUP? Are you aware that TRAVON MARTIN'S OWN MOTHER SAID HE WAS NO GOOD UNTIL PEOPLE LIKE SHARPTON SHUT HER UP.

There were pictures of ARES, Obama;s pet CRIMINAL, attending TRUMP rallies.

There are checks showing SOROS has funded leaders of violent anit Trump protests.

There are pictures of groups of BLACK PANTHERS at voting sites during the OBAMA vote

AMERICA HAS WON=SUCK IT UP.

This is a mish mash of junk.

Not sure where you compiled this from, but for example the legendary Black Panther story is so over done, you don't even hear it much unless someone buries it in a ranting post. I also might suggest you actually do some research on it before you cite it again.

You say lots of words, you call people criminals...nothing you say has any validation, thus it is just junk.

janmcn 12-04-2016 05:18 PM

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Here's a good start for you. I'm sure you can find the numerous other legitimate (nonFake news) sources. This one is right from the Feds.

Find out what immigration statuses qualify for coverage in the Health Insurance Marketplace. | HealthCare.gov

CA recently opened access to anyone with a CA drivers license - illegal or not.


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Not to worry, Trump promises to repeal Obamacare on day one, which means we only have to put up with it for about six more weeks.

His Sec HHS nominee, Rep/Dr Tom Price promises to privatize Medicare within six to eight months, which means we will be rid of that dastardly program by spring.

ColdNoMore 12-04-2016 05:23 PM

Let's start with your post where I asked for proof.

You said....

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One reason is that some states, including CA, are doing what we were promised would never happen. Non-citizens are accessing the ACA.

No one has ever promised that 'non-citizens' would be excluded.

ObamaCare and Immigrants - Obamacare Facts

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Who is Eligible for the Marketplace?

Most people in the following groups are eligible for coverage through the Health Insurance Marketplace:

-U.S. citizens
-U.S. nationals
-Lawfully present immigrants


So you not only lied, but are also unable to provide the proof I requested.

Now aren't you ashamed of yourself? :D





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CA recently opened access to anyone with a CA drivers license - illegal or not.

OK, since I've now proved that you were lying (either intentionally or through ignorance/misinformation from the right) previously...let's try this again.

Do you have a legitimate source that states undocumented workers...are being allowed to use ACA?

And not that some might have tried...but were caught.

Please prove your statement that illegal immigrants are being allowed (contrary to the law)...to use the Marketplace.

I'll wait. :popcorn:




Since I feel sorry for you, I'll help you out. ;)

Yes, the California legislature has requested a waiver to allow undocumented aliens to access the Marketplace, but the federal government has not said they would allow it.

That's what you get for not doing a little research and making sure it's really true...when Faux News tells you something. :ohdear:

dbussone 12-04-2016 05:35 PM

You've just been "hood winked"
 
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Let's start with your post where I asked for proof.

You said....



No one has ever promised that 'non-citizens' would be excluded.

ObamaCare and Immigrants - Obamacare Facts




So you not only lied, but are also unable to provide the proof I requested.

Now aren't you ashamed of yourself? :D







OK, since I've now proved that you were lying (either intentionally or through ignorance/misinformation from the right) previously...let's try this again.

Do you have a legitimate source that states undocumented workers...are being allowed to use ACA?

And not that some might have tried...but were caught.

Please prove your statement that illegal immigrants are being allowed (contrary to the law)...to use the Marketplace.

I'll wait. :popcorn:




Since I feel sorry for you, I'll help you out. ;)

Yes, the California legislature has talked about requesting a waiver to allow undocumented aliens to access the Marketplace, but it has not passed, has not been signed by the Governor...nor has the federal government said they would allow it.

That's what you get for not doing a little research and making sure it's really true...when Faux News tells you something. :ohdear:


Please don't feel sorry for me. Here's another. I'll let you find the rest on your own since you claim to be so good at research.

Forbes Welcome

Here's the title: Because Of Obamacare, Illegal Immigrants Get Taxpayer-Financed Care

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ColdNoMore 12-04-2016 05:35 PM

California petitions to become first state to offer ObamaCare to illegal immigrants | Fox News

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However, even if the Obama administration green-lights the waiver, the insurance plans that would be offered – California Qualified Health Plans – would not be subsidized.

:wave:

ColdNoMore 12-04-2016 05:39 PM

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Please don't feel sorry for me. Here's another. I'll let you find the rest on your own since you claim to be so good at research.

Forbes Welcome

Here's the title: Because Of Obamacare, Illegal Immigrants Get Taxpayer-Financed Care

Do you even read what you link? :oops:

You still have not proved your statement that illegal immigrants are covered under Obamacare.

Can't you just admit that you're wrong and that the state is paying for the coverage...NOT the ACA? :ohdear:

dbussone 12-04-2016 05:45 PM

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Do you even read what you link? :oops:



You still have not proved your statement that illegal immigrants are covered under Obamacare.



Can't you just admit that you're wrong and that the state is paying for the coverage...NOT the ACA? :ohdear:



Go back and read the first link from the Feds that I sited. It lists the classes of immigrants who can access the ACA. Included are several groups consisting of illegal immigrants.

I'm uncertain you can read, but if you can I know know you can't comprehend.

Nighty night - don't let the bed bugs bite.


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Rockyrd 12-04-2016 05:47 PM

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Do you even read what you link? :oops:

You still have not proved your statement that illegal immigrants are covered under Obamacare.

Can't you just admit that you're wrong and that the state is paying for the coverage...NOT the ACA? :ohdear:

The ACA does NOT provide entry or assistance for illegal immigrants.

It does allow STATES to. ask or petition a waiver to allow more to become available.

That is what California is doing...petitioning for a waiver on the basis with more in the plans, premiums go down

autumnspring 12-04-2016 05:54 PM

the FACTS re: American backrupsy on national debt
 
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you forgot Trump is the bankruptcy KING, he will have US file bankruptcy, problem solved, ha!

I believe few know the facts re: the national debt. I expect you are teasing re: TRUMP and his experience with bankruptcy.

THE FACTS WHICH CLEARLY OUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW.

We have been fed that China is our largest creditor. So what the heck, we declare that we are bankrupt WHICH WE CLEARLY ARE and renegotiate the debt SHORT SALE?

THE FACTS MAKE THIS IMPOSSIBLE. First of all we owe slightly more to Japan then to China. MORE IMPORTANT, Japan and China together hold less than 20% of the national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT. YOU/WE WERE FORCED TO TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT TO HOLD THE MONEY WE HAD TO PAY INTO THIS PONZI SCHEME THEY HAVE SPENT IT.

Rockyrd 12-04-2016 05:56 PM

Again, they are NOT covered and a long way from.

Why do people just come on here a simply lie ?


"insurance exchanges, but in June Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill that allowed the state to apply for a federal waiver to open Covered California to illegal immigrants living in California. The bill’s sponsor said such a waiver would allow 390,000 illegal immigrants to receive health insurance.

However, even if the Obama administration green-lights the waiver, the insurance plans that would be offered – California Qualified Health Plans – would not be subsidized."



California petitions to become first state to offer ObamaCare to illegal immigrants | Fox News

autumnspring 12-04-2016 06:02 PM

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This is a mish mash of junk.

Not sure where you compiled this from, but for example the legendary Black Panther story is so over done, you don't even hear it much unless someone buries it in a ranting post. I also might suggest you actually do some research on it before you cite it again.

You say lots of words, you call people criminals...nothing you say has any validation, thus it is just junk.

You have not addressed a single point.
The black panther,"story." is posted COMPLETE WITH PHOTOS.
The FACTS re ARES at Trump rally is also available with PHOTOS.

Rockyrd 12-04-2016 06:07 PM

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I believe few know the facts re: the national debt. I expect you are teasing re: TRUMP and his experience with bankruptcy.

THE FACTS WHICH CLEARLY OUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW.

We have been fed that China is our largest creditor. So what the heck, we declare that we are bankrupt WHICH WE CLEARLY ARE and renegotiate the debt SHORT SALE?

THE FACTS MAKE THIS IMPOSSIBLE. First of all we owe slightly more to Japan then to China. MORE IMPORTANT, Japan and China together hold less than 20% of the national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT. YOU/WE WERE FORCED TO TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT TO HOLD THE MONEY WE HAD TO PAY INTO THIS PONZI SCHEME THEY HAVE SPENT IT.

There is no conspiracy. This is all public knowledge. Depends on how it is presented.

"Intragovernmental Holdings— Nearly 30 percent of the Federal debt is owed to 230 other Federal agencies. Why would the Intragovernmental Holdings— Nearly 30 percent of the Federal debt is owed to 230 other Federal agencies. Why would the government owe money to itself? Some agencies, like the Social Security Trust Fund, take in more revenue from taxes than they need right now. Rather than stick this cash under a giant mattress, they buy U.S. Treasuries with it.

By owning Treasuries, they transfer their excess cash to the general fund, where it is spent. Of course, one day they will redeem their Treasury notes for cash. The Federal government will either need to raise taxes or issue more debt, to give the agencies the money they will need. owe money to itself? Some agencies, like the Social Security Trust Fund, take in more revenue from taxes than they need right now. Rather than stick this cash under a giant mattress, they buy U.S. Treasuries with it."

On Foreign debt......

"China owns $1.157 trillion U.S. debt. As of September 2016, it was the largest foreign holder. Japan is next, holding $1.136 trillion. Both Japan and China want to keep the value of the dollar high when compared to their currencies. That helps their exports to the United States seem more affordable, which helps their economies grow. That's why, despite China's occasional threats to sell its holdings, both countries are happy to be America's biggest foreign bankers. China replaced the United Kingdom as the second largest foreign holder on May 31, 2007. That's when it increased its holdings to $699 billion, outpacing the United Kingdom's $640 billion.

Ireland is third, holding $270 billion. The Cayman Islands is fourth, at $262 billion. Luxembourg is seventh ($227 billion), and Belgium is eleventh ($142 billion). The Bureau of International Settlements believes all three are fronts for sovereign wealth funds and hedge funds that don't want to reveal their positions.

Brazil is the fifth largest holder at $258 billion. The next largest holders are Switzerland, the UK, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and India. They each hold between $122 - $240 billion each. (Source: Foreign Holding of U.S. Treasury Securities, October 18, 2016. "Petrodollars and Global Imbalances," U.S. Treasury, February 2006.) Data is from various reports that are released at different times. Therefore, the total may not add up to $19 trillion."

NO conspiracy....you present it as a secret...it is public knowledge.

Link for the above....

Who Owns the US National Debt? How Much Is Owed?

Rockyrd 12-04-2016 06:08 PM

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You have not addressed a single point.
The black panther,"story." is posted COMPLETE WITH PHOTOS.
The FACTS re ARES at Trump rally is also available with PHOTOS.

Then link it

ColdNoMore 12-04-2016 06:10 PM

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Go back and read the first link from the Feds that I sited. It lists the classes of immigrants who can access the ACA. Included are several groups consisting of illegal immigrants.

I'm uncertain you can read, but if you can I know know you can't comprehend.

Nighty night - don't let the bed bugs bite.

LEGAL immigrants ONLY.

Which is what the law has said from the beginning. :oops:

Your first link says nothing about allowing illegal immigrants, so why are you lying about what everyone can see?

Do you really think people are as dumb or gullible...as you yourself seem to be?

YOU stated that you were promised NO immigrants, which is false and now you're waffling and obfuscating...because you're too deceitful to admit that you were dead wrong. :wave:






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The ACA does NOT provide entry or assistance for illegal immigrants.

Exactly.

Facts don't matter, some people just aren't intelligent enough to comprehend the truth. :ohdear:

Rockyrd 12-04-2016 06:12 PM

Would you people not be better served if you spoke to current issues facing our country. Are you not sick of this. I recall this being discussed on this forum ad nausea years ago

"On the most important day in American politics, one of Fox News’s biggest stories has been about a lone New Black Panther Party member standing outside a Philadelphia polling place.

Fox News has featured several segments today on Jerry Jackson, who was charged in 2008 for voter intimidation, although the charges against him were later dropped. Jackson was spotted outside a Philadelphia polling place Tuesday morning, and Fox News confirmed Jackson is a designated poll watcher."


Fox News obsessed with lone Black Panther - POLITICO


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