[SHIBUMI]

But, a good super can grow grass on a bald head...........lets not confuse what a true super is. He is not a grass cutter. Their expertise is in growing grass and keeping it healthy. That is an art form that grass cutters don't possess. A good super inspects the course on a daily basis. I am back to 1 course 1 real super, not 1 super for many courses and just grass cutters underneath them.

Originally Posted by JGVillages

Since the Developer has one Golf Course Architect that constructs all the Villages Courses, and since course conditions have been an issue for the 18 years I have been here, lets not put the cart before the horse. Have an independent expert in golf course construction and course agronomy inspect the course(s) construction standard to determine if a form of renovation is necessary, prior to hiring a number of new superintendents that may not realistically be able to solve the problem. Even a Master Barber can’t grow hair on a bald head.

[SHIBUMI]

Please educate me on what the cpi went up in the last 2 years and was there a corresponding increase in rec fees. On the surface a combined 10% cpi increase was not reflected onto amenities fees or we would be over 200$. Please explain..........

Originally Posted by biker1

There is no arbitrary raising of the rec (aka amenities) fee. The increases are tied to the CPI. The Villages can do whatever they want with the greens fees on the Championship courses since they own them.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

But, a good super can grow grass on a bald head...........lets not confuse what a true super is. He is not a grass cutter. Their expertise is in growing grass and keeping it healthy. That is an art form that grass cutters don't possess. A good super inspects the course on a daily basis. I am back to 1 course 1 real super, not 1 super for many courses and just grass cutters underneath them.

You just heard from someone who knows what he's talking about.

I played a round of golf with our Super a few years back. I vividly remember him showing me a "spot" on the 3rd hole. He walked me right to it and showed me an area of about 4' x 3' and explained to me why he couldn't seem to get grass to grow on that spot and how he was going to fix it. He knew every square inch of that golf course and that golf hole was only 1 of 45 he had to take care of.

[Justputt]

Grass isn't growing or dying that fast. Get a few really EDUCATED people on course care, pay them well, and require they survey courses routinely, making adjustments to care so as to stay ahead of the problem areas. If they need to rope off areas with damaged grass or fix poor drainage, fine; if they need to limit play until X recovers, fine. Give them responsibility and control. If playing less meant playing better courses when we play, I think most would be okay with that.

[bergercat]

Use the exorbitant fees we pay now for golf to good use rather than raise prices—again!

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I try to only post about what I know.

If everyone did this, there would be far fewer posts!

[biker1]

Go back and check your amenities' fee near the anniversary of when the contract was first signed on your house. On that anniversary (might be the month before), your amenities' fee will go up by the CPI, in some way, shape, or form. For March 2023, my amenities' fee went up 6.4%. For March 2024, my amenities' fee went up 3.1%. Those numbers match the percentage change in the CPI-U for the 12 months ending in January of 2023 and 2024, respectively. Perhaps they look back two months for the exact annualized value to use?? For 2 years this March, my amenities’ fee is up 9.7%. With a different anniversary month, you might see a different percentage increase. You can check your deed restrictions on districtgov.org for the exact wording that ties the amenities' fee increases to the CPI. I use the standard formula for increases; ((New - Old)/Old) * 100. When you bought your house matters as not everyone pays the same amenities’ fee.

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

Please educate me on what the cpi went up in the last 2 years and was there a corresponding increase in rec fees. On the surface a combined 10% cpi increase was not reflected onto amenities fees or we would be over 200$. Please explain..........

[HORNET]

The Villages have some of the most talented people involved with The Golf Management System!! Need maybe to check and see who they are and what the have brought to The Villages. Go outside The Villages and see in general what they offer! Then see what the GMS system has accomplished!

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by biker1

Go back and check your amenities' fee near the anniversary of when the contract was first signed on your house. On that anniversary (might be the month before), your amenities' fee will go up by the CPI. For March 2023, my amenities' fee went up 6.4%. For March 2024, my amenities' fee went up 3.1%. Those numbers match the percentage change in the CPI-U for the 12 months ending in January of 2023 and 2024, respectively. Perhaps they look back two months for the exact annualized value to use?? For 2 years this March, my amenities’ fee is up 9.7%. With a different anniversary month, you might see a different percentage increase. You can check your deed restrictions on districtgov.org for the exact wording that ties the amenities' fee increases to the CPI. I use the standard formula for increases; ((New - Old)/Old) * 100. When you bought your house matters as not everyone pays the same amenities’ fee.

Correct! Fact check: TRUE

Simplier formula:
New / Old -1

no need for parenthesis on the calculator

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by HORNET

The Villages have some of the most talented people involved with The Golf Management System!! Need maybe to check and see who they are and what the have brought to The Villages. Go outside The Villages and see in general what they offer! Then see what the GMS system has accomplished!

What color is your koolaid?

[biker1]

There are the same number of calculations; a subtraction and a division. You neglected to multiply through by 100 for a percentage. My calculator doesn’t have parenthesis. I am a long time user of HPs. I understand there are calculators that use parenthesis but I find them impossible to use ;-).

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Correct! Fact check: TRUE

Simplier formula:
New / Old -1

no need for parenthesis on the calculator

[UpNorth]

Originally Posted by bergercat

Use the exorbitant fees we pay now for golf to good use rather than raise prices—again!

Overpriced for sure, compared to off-campus courses. And they don't even have to provide you with a cart!

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by biker1

You neglected to multiply through by 100 for a percentage. My calculator doesn’t have parenthesis. I am a long time user of HPs.

multiplying by a hundred is a presentation/formatting issue, the number is still the same

ugh, using an HP is just beyond me. . I tried for the CFA / CPA exam, and just couldn't do it.



coming from more of a programming background, the reverse polish notation or whatever the name is for the process is just too weird. I started with excel way before grad school and HP finance calculator usage. . . even programmed a trash 80 to do engineering involute curve calculations in the very early 80s, so HP is just too niche to learn

[biker1]

Programming, unless you are using a stack based language such as Forth, typically looks like “parenthesis” calculators. This is true for C, Fortran, Pascal, PL/I, etc. The trick with RPN calculators is to understand the stack. Once you get it, there is no going back and I know others who also stumble around with conventional calculators. I have had HP scientific calculators for 50 years. I move back and forth between calculator usage and programming without thinking about it. For complex equations, you start in the middle and work outward pushing and popping from the stack.

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

multiplying by a hundred is a presentation/formatting issue, the number is still the same

ugh, using an HP is just beyond me. . I tried for the CFA / CPA exam, and just couldn't do it.



coming from more of a programming background, the reverse polish notation or whatever the name is for the process is just too weird. I started with excel way before grad school and HP finance calculator usage. . . even programmed a trash 80 to do engineering involute curve calculations in the very early 80s, so HP is just too niche to learn

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by HORNET

The Villages have some of the most talented people involved with The Golf Management System!! Need maybe to check and see who they are and what the have brought to The Villages. Go outside The Villages and see in general what they offer! Then see what the GMS system has accomplished!

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

What color is your koolaid?

Doesn’t he have the right to his own opinion