[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by tuccillo

A lot of people (probably most) get this wrong. Is the planet warming? Yes, because we are in an interglacial period and there has been anthropogenic warming, and we will continue to warm. Nobody, who actually understand the science, debates this. How much anthropogenic warming has there been? Best estimates are about 1C for the global average surface temperature anomaly. You can reference the IPCC AR6 report and subscribe to the AMS JoC. Probably a bit less for the lower tropospheric global temperature anomaly from Roy Spencer and John Christy's satellite-based dataset starting in 1979. How much additional anthropogenic warming will there be? Hard to say and this is an area of continued research. I'll repeat that: nobody really knows. The dire predictions appear to be based on the RCP 8.5 modeling scenario. I suspect that is a bit pessimistic (too high). Again, nobody knows. One of the lower RCP scenarios might be more appropriate. Hard to say, nobody knows. The thing that most people get wrong is the assumption that the Milankovitch cycles are the time scales of concern. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Milankovitch cycles have time scale of tens to hundreds of thousands of years. The current concern is for the next 100 years. I'll repeat that: the concern is for the next 100 years. The real issue is how sensitive is the climate to modest amounts of CO2 induced warming. It be clear, CO2 induced warming, by itself, is not a concern. The real concern is the nonlinear response to the CO2 induced warming. If the climate is relatively insensitive to CO2 induced warming then there is really no dire concern. If the climate has a strong positive feedback to the CO2 induced warming then there is concern. This is an area of research as we really don't know. People can claim they know the answer, particularly people who post on this forum with out any domain knowledge, but in reality we don't know.

The following websites are worth visiting, if you actually care about reality.

The first one is from Sabine Hossenfelder. If you aren't going to watch till the end then don't even bother firing it up.

The second link is from Roy Spencer. He works with observational data his perspective is worth listening too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqu5DjzOBF8

GW 101 - Roy Spencer, PhD.

Full disclosure: Undergraduate and graduate degrees in meteorology and retired research meteorologist at NASA and the National Weather Service.

Good to hear from you.

[Gigi3000]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Would you say that to your grandchildren?

The rich ones will be on Mars.

[tuccillo]

Climate is very non-linear and our understanding is still limited. It is an area of research. Unfortunately, I don't believe the current climate models are at a point where we should be developing public policy from their results. I don't say this lightly as I was a model developer (short term weather, not longer term climate) for the Government.

Originally Posted by mntlblok

Thanks. Climate change feedback - Wikipedia Now know a lot more than I did before.

[tophcfa]

This has me concerned, I’m worried about the golf courses getting flooded: (

[tuccillo]

I'm concerned also. However, that is a weather issue and not a climate issue (or least not a climate issue until long after I am dead). I am actually more concerned about the number of points I have for this week's tee time requests ;-)

Originally Posted by tophcfa

This has me concerned, I’m worried about the golf courses getting flooded: (

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

We will probably have to go to large domed cities in the Midwest and Colorado-Utah-Nevada area.

Water will still be a problem especially with the intense heat outside the dome.

And they have not worked out the physics yet for large domes. Otherwise Winnipeg would probably have one along with Minneapolis and St. Paul.

Also, they will need to figure out how to support the weight of 2 miles of ice over them that will follow. Time course: Ocean levels about 200 feet higher than currently---25,000 years from now---NOT THE YEAR 2300. 2 miles of ice-----about 65,000 years in the future. Just like the previous cycles, the last being ice coverage 25-40,000 years ago and high ocean levels about 85,000 years ago. Oh, yes, maybe the climate change proponents can explain what happened to that ice, and how the planet is much warmer than 20,000 years ago when there's no fossil fuel burning, no SUV's, and no coal burning power plants to blame it on. Lastly, what is the OP smoking and where can I get some?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

It will be a few generations before things really get bad. I do think people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk and many others are looking into how to address the problems.

Agree. As long as you define "a few generations" as about 1,000

[Taltarzac725]

https://ekodome.com/the-science-behind/

Maybe an idea about domes.

The big thing about scientific pursuits is if they can be proven true or false. So much of this just seems incapable of being tested as true or false.

Falsifiability - Wikipedia

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

If you can get a Federal grant, I will study anything you want and produce any result you want.

It was my idea why do I have to do the legwork?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

It was my idea why do I have to do the legwork?

More importantly, do you have plans to put a "dome" over the Village of Stu???

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

More importantly, do you have plans to put a "dome" over the Village of Stu???

Florida would probably be a mess because of the threat of sink holes. The domes would sink.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Florida would probably be a mess because of the threat of sink holes. The domes would sink.

Darn. I was hoping for climate controlled golfing under the dome.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Darn. I was hoping for climate controlled golfing under the dome.

Maybe they will come up with something that floats on seas or on air. Going to have an awful lot of hot air to work with then.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

More importantly, do you have plans to put a "dome" over the Village of Stu???

That would be foolish and a waste of the money others will contribute to be invited into my village.

We have plans to build a pedestal

[Robbb]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Would you say that to your grandchildren?

NO I would tell them that hysterical people have been predicting the demise of civilization for eons. For instance let see, there was global cooling, then there was starvation due to overpopulation, then there was toxic shock syndrome, AIDS. MERSA, Alar, then there was meteors, then there was the ozone hole, then there was Covid, etc etc..It seems as though part of the human condition is to find fears of our future existence.