[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Why do corals huddle around the world's warmest oceans? And why did Professor LaJeunesse from Penn State say ... "The fossil record shows that today's reef-building corals exploded in diversity around 160 million years ago" ... when global temperatures and CO2 were much higher than today?

1st). Scientists say that living coral is going to die down to 5% in some foreseeable future. That is a GIVEN in my book.
2nd) The coral is NOT DYING due to warm water.
3rd) The Coral is DYING because CO2 from factories and vehicle tailpipes, which has intensified in the last 15 years because of RAPID world population increase , - The CO2 enters the water and forms an ACID which bleaches (kills) the coral.
4th) The warm planet and ALL oceans increases the chances of LARGE, strong hurricanes forming and hitting places like North Central Florida.
5th) Also stronger greater numbers of tornadoes. One big reason why home insurance is rising. The insurance people KNOW the weather.
6th) Warm air and warm water will cause greater rain and flooding worldwide.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Normal

That fits YOUR narrative, however not geological science and discovery. I would rather stick with science and evidence. Discoveries around the Black Sea demonstrate massive global level flooding approximately 7500:years ago. Like I stated earlier. There are entire cities under water this very day that have been there for quite some time. It took quite a volume of water to place them at their current elevation below sea level. This was all of course well before the Industrial Revolution or population increases.

Here is a fun list to go through and some are fantastic dive sites…
Top 15 Underwater Cities That You Can Visit

Personally I could care less what happened 7500 years ago. I am talking the last 15 years with warming and ocean rise increasing rapidly compared to (SAY) 80 years ago.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I never knew the little folk emitted more gasses than the bigger ones!

That's cute but the sentence continued after Dwarfs. The period was NOT there. Half quoting something is NOT meaningful! !!!!!!!

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The Onion (respected news outlet) reports a looming tin foil shortage....this could be problematic for some!

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

How come we are not told to buy more toilet paper? Asking for a friend

They ran out of toilet paper on Guam in 1979 following Super Typhoon Tip.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Personally I could care less what happened 7500 years ago. I am talking the last 15 years with warming and ocean rise increasing rapidly compared to (SAY) 80 years ago.

Seas have been rising 1.5 mm a year for hundreds of years. No one dies from sea level rise that you can't see. The smart nations (like the Netherlands) build huge seawalls & dikes. The arrogant cities (like Miami) build on sandbars that are sinking due to excess infrastructure weight and ground-water removal.

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Originally Posted by sounding

They ran out of toilet paper on Guam in 1979 following Super Typhoon Tip.

So there is precedent for TP hoarding....not just pandemic!

50% of Guam is forests.....so as long as there are leaves on dem der trees....toilet paper is the least of ones worries in that scenario

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

So there is precedent for TP hoarding....not just pandemic!

50% of Guam is forests.....so as long as there are leaves on dem der trees....toilet paper is the least of ones worries in that scenario

Many leaves and birds were gone after TIP.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser

1st). Scientists say that living coral is going to die down to 5% in some foreseeable future. That is a GIVEN in my book.
2nd) The coral is NOT DYING due to warm water.
3rd) The Coral is DYING because CO2 from factories and vehicle tailpipes, which has intensified in the last 15 years because of RAPID world population increase , - The CO2 enters the water and forms an ACID which bleaches (kills) the coral.
4th) The warm planet and ALL oceans increases the chances of LARGE, strong hurricanes forming and hitting places like North Central Florida.
5th) Also stronger greater numbers of tornadoes. One big reason why home insurance is rising. The insurance people KNOW the weather.
6th) Warm air and warm water will cause greater rain and flooding worldwide.

The belief that tornadoes are rising and stronger is another myth. NOAA data proves this. Plus, the physics of atmospherics explains why global warming is reducing tornadic events. Find out more at the Weather Club.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by sounding

The belief that tornadoes are rising and stronger is another myth. NOAA data proves this. Plus, the physics of atmospherics explains why global warming is reducing tornadic events. Find out more at the Weather Club.

You gotta better chance of seeing an EV in a certain persons driveway than to see....that same person at a gathering of individuals with fact filled receipts to support a theory!

* Of course....mine is a fictitious and theoretical premise!

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

1st). Scientists say that living coral is going to die down to 5% in some foreseeable future. That is a GIVEN in my book.
2nd) The coral is NOT DYING due to warm water.
3rd) The Coral is DYING because CO2 from factories and vehicle tailpipes, which has intensified in the last 15 years because of RAPID world population increase , - The CO2 enters the water and forms an ACID which bleaches (kills) the coral.
4th) The warm planet and ALL oceans increases the chances of LARGE, strong hurricanes forming and hitting places like North Central Florida.
5th) Also stronger greater numbers of tornadoes. One big reason why home insurance is rising. The insurance people KNOW the weather.
6th) Warm air and warm water will cause greater rain and flooding worldwide.

Get out the Life Boats, Build an Ark. The experts have spoken. Big Hurricane Season has been forecast. head inland forever. The windmills will be blown over, solar cells hidden from the sun by perpetual clouds, dams washed away. No energy source available.

Reminds me of Henny Penny, and the phrase “the sky is falling”, a story that indicates a hysterical or mistaken belief that disaster is imminent. It originates from the folk tale of Henny Penny, also known as “Chicken Little.” In this cumulative tale, a chicken believes the world is coming to an end and repeatedly exclaims, “The sky is falling!” The story has been passed down through generations and has become a common expression in the English language1. So, when someone says “the sky is falling,” they are expressing an irrational fear or concern about impending doom, even if there is no real threat.

[jimjamuser]

I must be the only one on TOTV that reads the news from Scientists. Here are some small FACTS. May was the HOTTEST May EVER, EVER, for central Florida. Tampa set an all-time record of 97 deg. Winter Haven - 99 deg. I just read things and present them, sorry if that makes me seem so terrible!

[Normal]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Personally I could care less what happened 7500 years ago. I am talking the last 15 years with warming and ocean rise increasing rapidly compared to (SAY) 80 years ago.

it’s all about cause. There was very little co2 emitted into the atmosphere during the periods prior to 1850.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Normal

it’s all about cause. There was very little co2 emitted into the atmosphere during the periods prior to 1850.

True, man made CO2 is the modern difference.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by Normal
it’s all about cause. There was very little co2 emitted into the atmosphere during the periods prior to 1850.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

True, man made CO2 is the modern difference.

Both of the above could be potentially true.

CO2 is a naturally produced Gas. Humans and animals emit it. Plants absorb it and store it. Dead plants evolve into fuels such as oils, gas, and coal and continue storage. Some of the CO2 remains in the air and is considered a greenhouse gas. Greenhouse gases allowed the earth to heat up and helped warm up the earth to allow temperatures to develop our current environment. I think most of us agree to that.
The difference is what happens then and is related to man's usage of those fuels storing the CO2 from the past and releasing it into the atmosphere.

My question to participants of the discussion is, Any disagreement to the above"?