[justjim]

We have been down this road before. I did see the Governor of Wyoming on television just the other day who made good common sense regarding this subject. Wyoming has more coal and other forms of fossil fuels than any other State according to the Governor. They have much to lose. Yet, he believes in climate change - boiling oceans if you want to call it that. The facts are not debatable but what to do about it is debatable. His words not mine.

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Originally Posted by justjim

We have been down this road before. I did see the Governor of Wyoming on television just the other day who made good common sense regarding this subject. Wyoming has more coal and other forms of fossil fuels than any other State according to the Governor. They have much to lose. Yet, he believes in climate change - boiling oceans if you want to call it that. The facts are not debatable but what to do about it is debatable. His words not mine.

That governor initially agreed to a public debate, but then backed out. I guess he later looked at the facts. Wyoming Governor Backs Out of Climate Debate - CO2 Coalition

[frayedends]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Innocents make up their minds not by analyzing, but by believing what they have been told by people they (rightly or wrongly) trust. Santa Clause, tooth fairy, Easter bunny, etc. Even seemingly rational adults put their belief and trust in the blather and baloney that masquerades as truth (like flat earth, non-anthropogenic climate change, etc). An old saying, "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions" should have a disclaimer stating that many of those good intentions are the result of faith in misinformation.

Now it's time for you to say, "It's not me! It's you!"

Non-anthropogenic climate change would mean climate change not caused by humans. That would be true. Or am I reading this incorrectly?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Yeah. What a wonderful thought

Except there would be no lobster. No life of any kind, save possibly pod scum.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Innocents make up their minds not by analyzing, but by believing what they have been told by people they (rightly or wrongly) trust. Santa Clause, tooth fairy, Easter bunny, etc. Even seemingly rational adults put their belief and trust in the blather and baloney that masquerades as truth (like flat earth, non-anthropogenic climate change, etc). An old saying, "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions" should have a disclaimer stating that many of those good intentions are the result of faith in misinformation.

Now it's time for you to say, "It's not me! It's you!"

Why? You just said it about others in your post...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Your list is incomplete. Santa Clause, tooth fairy, Easter bunny, and man-made climate change.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by frayedends

Non-anthropogenic climate change would mean climate change not caused by humans. That would be true. Or am I reading this incorrectly?

You are reading it correctly---climate change caused by humans is not true.

[frayedends]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You are reading it correctly---climate change caused by humans is not true.

Right. I was confused when he put non human climate change along with flat earth. One is true the other isn’t. Man caused, nope. Not true.

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Originally Posted by frayedends

Right. I was confused when he put non human climate change along with flat earth. One is true the other isn’t. Man caused, nope. Not true.

Ditto. The recent COVID lockdown experiment shows no human foot-print on global CO2.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by frayedends

Non-anthropogenic climate change would mean climate change not caused by humans. That would be true. Or am I reading this incorrectly?

Thank you for understanding that. One of the problems with getting through to some otherwise intelligent folks is that global warming is comprised of two parts, the normal and cyclical changes in climate, aka non-anthropogenic climate change. This has been exacerbated as a result of human activities, aka anthropogenic climate change, particularly since the industrial revolution. Animals and plants in a natural world are part of the ecosystem and have relatively small effect on climate change. But billions and billions of humans with their technology and machines poluting and poisoning and terraforming the planet are speeding up the warming of this world's climate. Yes, the climate would change on its own. But we humans are making it worse. Sorry, but it is the truth, and it won't stop just because a few choose to refuse to examine and accept the facts.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Thank you for understanding that. One of the problems with getting through to some otherwise intelligent folks is that global warming is comprised of two parts, the normal and cyclical changes in climate, aka non-anthropogenic climate change. This has been exacerbated as a result of human activities, aka anthropogenic climate change, particularly since the industrial revolution. Animals and plants in a natural world are part of the ecosystem and have relatively small effect on climate change. But billions and billions of humans with their technology and machines poluting and poisoning and terraforming the planet are speeding up the warming of this world's climate. Yes, the climate would change on its own. But we humans are making it worse. Sorry, but it is the truth, and it won't stop just because a few choose to refuse to examine and accept the facts.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

"This has been exacerbated as a result of human activities, aka anthropogenic climate change?" How much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth last year?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Thank you for understanding that. One of the problems with getting through to some otherwise intelligent folks is that global warming is comprised of two parts, the normal and cyclical changes in climate, aka non-anthropogenic climate change. This has been exacerbated as a result of human activities, aka anthropogenic climate change, particularly since the industrial revolution. Animals and plants in a natural world are part of the ecosystem and have relatively small effect on climate change. But billions and billions of humans with their technology and machines poluting and poisoning and terraforming the planet are speeding up the warming of this world's climate. Yes, the climate would change on its own. But we humans are making it worse. Sorry, but it is the truth, and it won't stop just because a few choose to refuse to examine and accept the facts.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

Thank you for posting a reasonable statement regarding anthropomorphic climate change. Now, all you need to do is take the next step, as voiced by the climatologists that are not beholden to the government or universities for funding or tenure. Specifically, that the impact of man on the climate may delay the next period of cyclical glaciation by 5,000 years, but that is due to the rise of agriculture in Asia over the past 8,000 years, not 150 years of burning fossil fuels. The true believers in the false narrative of global warming are merely the lemmings that think worldwide catastrophic warming is imminent. The real powers behind that movement are those that stand to gain if the world is stupid enough to spend $130 TRILLION to follow the Paris accords. (And the media is concerned with porch pirates and gift card scammers---small potatoes in comparison)

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Thank you for understanding that. One of the problems with getting through to some otherwise intelligent folks is that global warming is comprised of two parts, the normal and cyclical changes in climate, aka non-anthropogenic climate change. This has been exacerbated as a result of human activities, aka anthropogenic climate change, particularly since the industrial revolution. Animals and plants in a natural world are part of the ecosystem and have relatively small effect on climate change. But billions and billions of humans with their technology and machines poluting and poisoning and terraforming the planet are speeding up the warming of this world's climate. Yes, the climate would change on its own. But we humans are making it worse. Sorry, but it is the truth, and it won't stop just because a few choose to refuse to examine and accept the facts.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

So, your solution is mandatory abortion, sterilization, genocide, birth limits? Or, spend/waste trillions of dollars on studying and then changing labels so that we can spend more money for the same results.....nothing burger.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

"This has been exacerbated as a result of human activities, aka anthropogenic climate change?" How much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth last year?

Your question shows you don't get it.

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Your question shows you don't get it.

What numerical value does your response represent?