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Climate related disasters -weather events
Its fine to have these silly debates every time there is a weather meeting abt whether there is climate change but we should really look at the human toll and all the people who have lost their homes and their lives in the climate related disasters
This is a quote below from the director of NOAA “The U.S. was hit with more billion-dollar disasters in 2023 than any other year on record, highlighting the increasing risks from our changing climate,” said NOAA NCEI Director Deke Arndt. There were 28 billion dollar disasters in 2023 the warmest year on record in many states “The 28 events from 2023 include: 17 severe weather/hail events. 4 flooding events. 2 tropical cyclones (Idalia in Florida and Typhoon Mawar in Guam). 2 tornado outbreaks. 1 winter storm/cold wave event. 1 wildfire event (Maui Island of Hawaii). 1 drought and heat wave event. The total cost for these 28 disasters was $92.9 billion, but that may rise by several billion dollars when the costs of the December 16-18, 2023, East Coast storm and flooding event are fully accounted for“ |
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Carbon dioxide (CO2) is a greenhouse gas. This means that it causes an effect like the glass in a greenhouse, trapping heat and warming up the inside. |
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Absolutely wrong. The glass in the greenhouse does trap heat -- but CO2 does NOT trap heat -- otherwise Earth would have been a burnt cinder billions of years ago. Come to the Weather Club to learn just how tiny CO2's warming is -- plus CO2 is also a cooling gas -- which the media will never admit.
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why stop at 6, make it 10, 15. Whatever works to push a certain narrative. Just like our unusual winter weather in Florida this year. Some climatologists might say global warming while the true climatologists will say El Niño which has occurred for thousands/millions of years.
What's next tornados? EF6? EF10? EF15? Same thing. The worst storm I have ever seen in California (I lived there at the time) was in 1969. I don't think they have had anything worse since. Everywhere on earth you are going to get these type of storms, you just have to ignore the outliers. |
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You telling me what is correct is the same as me telling Nicklaus how to hit a 2-iron. Are you so uninformed that you really don't know where to look? Start with AR6. There are plenty of references contained in there. When you are caught cherry picking other people's data (and didn't bother to cite them) you really shouldn't talk about evidence.
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Logic and reason are not especially welcomed in these here parts. |
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For those who want an explanation of how CO2 and methane DO act as greenhouse gases, and why there is a nice website from Columbia university with simple clear science. And you tube videos of how you can prove it to yourself. So Simple Even a sounding can do it. How Exactly Does Carbon Dioxide Cause Global Warming? - You Asked For those who don't click on links. The sun heats the earth in the visible light spectrum. The warm earth releases some of this heat back upwards into the atmosphere. Think how a dark rock is hot as it has trapped then released heat. That released heat is infrared heat. You have all likely used infrared heat lamps. Infrared energy is invisible, just off the rainbow of colors we see, ultraviolet being just off the other side. Infrared energy waves come in contact with the molecules of the atmosphere as they travel from the warmed earth into the sky. Some molecules do not interact with infrared. The energy passes thru and continues into space. Oxygen ignores infrared. Nitrogen ignores infrared. CO2 and other greenhouse gases do interact with infrared energy. They absorb some of it. Once the CO2 molecule absorbs the infrared heat, it then radiates it back out into the atmosphere, just like the dark rock absorbed it on the earth then radiated it out. Some of the radiated energy goes up, back toward space, some goes down back toward the earth. That which is radiated back down to us warms us, and the planet. Water vapor is also a greenhouse gas. It is an oversimplification but everyone here is 100% correct in noticing that cloudy nights are warmer than clear nights. Why? The amount of heat the warm earth is sending up toward space is the same whether cloudy or clear. But on cloudy nights that heat, infrared heat, cannot escape and is partially reflected back down keeping us warm.
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Sabine Hossenfelder has a pretty good video on the details. Except for an error regarding the hydrostatic equation (which is not important to the topic of the video), she gets it correct. She goes into why stratospheric cooling and lower tropospheric warming occurs with increasing CO2.
Regarding why cloudy nights are warmer, more precisely the long wave is not reflected. It is actually absorbed and reemitted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqu5DjzOBF8 Quote:
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And if you care to check your prejudice for accuracy. Try to google New York Times and Antarctic volcano and see if in FACT the NYT has reported on volcanoes there. Hint, they have.
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Unfortunately, it's quite a bit more complicated than that.
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