[sounding]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Same question, same answer



I should add that YOUR data also shows warming trends over 10 and 20 years. The 7 year mark is an interesting anomaly but certainly not a trend.

Science is full of anomalies. And the last 7 years shows a cooling trend -- both UAH satellite and NOAA surface data. Let's see what happens during year 8.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by sounding

Science is full of anomalies. And the last 7 years shows a cooling trend -- both UAH satellite and NOAA surface data. Let's see what happens during year 8.

My prediction: there may be a barely discernible cooling trend starting at the eight year mark but at the same time, the data will show a clear warming trend over five, eleven, and 21 years. You will have to do more cherry picking after that.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Sorry, but that has not been proven.
Kinda like saying, if we have more trees it will cause more shade and make the world cooler. Or since we have so many airline flights every day, there is more wind.

This is NOT in ANY way critical of the post, merely an addition to it. Trees help keep the earth cool by providing shade and by evaporative cooling. Where water from the roots is drawn upward to the leaves by capillary action. It is pretty obvious that cities made up of concrete and DARK asphalt streets are warmer than their surrounding countryside. Also, it is why people in cities in the summer flock to parks for picnics and etc.

As far as the planet's warming goes........there are other considerations. The clear-cutting of old-growth forests is never GOOD even if small saplings are planted to replace them. The clear-cutting of the old-growth Amazon rainforest in Brazil is especially detrimental to the planet due to the sheer HUGE area involved.

Forests and the oceans are the earth's mechanisms for removing from the atmosphere the large EXCESS CO2 produced by the vehicles burning fossil fuel. (as opposed to the cleaner system of Electric Vehicles) The earth's problem and by extension mankind's problem is the rapid destruction of forests and the acidification of the oceans.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

My prediction: there may be a barely discernible cooling trend starting at the eight year mark but at the same time, the data will show a clear warming trend over five, eleven, and 21 years. You will have to do more cherry picking after that.

What cherry-picking. Remember what Al Gore said ... we're at a tipping point. The question is ... which tipping point. Either way the questions still remains, which no one seems to know how to answer ... why has the earth been cooling for the past 7 years?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Have no respect for anyone who would shake the hand of hanoi jane. She should have been tried and executed for treason, giving aid and comfort to our enemy.

I can understand why her mere name generates a lot of negative emotion. I would like to point out a few things. The Vietnam War was a long time ago. I was in the Air Force and I regularly read reports of how the war was going in Time magazine. The French were defeated by Vietnam, which was a bad sign. Another bad sign was that a considerable portion of the US citizens was against the war, which was different than WW2.

Today, in hindsight, the fact that the US has a good trading partner in Vietnam and has good diplomatic relations - sort of points out that Jane Fonda was on the right side of History. Personally, I think that she went too far when she physically visited North Vietnam. That was the bridge too far, I will agree.

America is Historically famous for its GREAT debaters and its enshrining freedom of speech in its laws. There is the question of how much hate should be placed on the shoulders of people on the OTHER SIDE of ANY debate?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

The last 7 years have been Earth'''s 7 hottest

I find different data.

Another "drop the mike" proof that the Earth has Global Warming and the article also says that the reason is man-made. How many of these articles must be posted to convince the 1% of Global Warming Deniers? To deny or not to deny, that is the question. I just worry that the truth is NOT reaching the average US person, that it is not talked about enough on the NORMAL TV stations, which allows the Climate Change deniers to influence public opinion through propaganda.

[courtyard]

New York, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, California and Washington have banned pet sales of cats and dogs to reduce the carbon "paw print" they produce as a result of eating meat.

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by courtyard

New York, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, California and Washington have banned pet sales of cats and dogs to reduce the carbon "paw print" they produce as a result of eating meat.

That’s a far stretch it’s laws to shut down “puppy mills” inhumane treatment of animals.

[courtyard]

The WEF World Economic Forum declared millions of cats and dogs should be slaughtered because they contribute to climate change.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by sounding

What cherry-picking. Remember what Al Gore said ... we're at a tipping point. The question is ... which tipping point. Either way the questions still remains, which no one seems to know how to answer ... why has the earth been cooling for the past 7 years?

Uggh, it just never ends…

Ironically, there has been a cooling trend for the last seven years because there was a particularly HOT year at about that time. While recent years still show a warming trend, if you choose to start at a particularly HOT point then even warm years look cooler.

With decades of data, you chose a point seven years ago because doing so showed what you wanted it to. Perhaps you didn’t notice that you chose an example of a warming climate to try to make your point that the climate is cooling… or maybe you thought no one would bother to look.

The next dozen times when you trot out the question of the seven years, please include this post - it will save me the time and trouble of doing it myself.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I can understand why her mere name generates a lot of negative emotion. I would like to point out a few things. The Vietnam War was a long time ago. I was in the Air Force and I regularly read reports of how the war was going in Time magazine. The French were defeated by Vietnam, which was a bad sign. Another bad sign was that a considerable portion of the US citizens was against the war, which was different than WW2.

Today, in hindsight, the fact that the US has a good trading partner in Vietnam and has good diplomatic relations - sort of points out that Jane Fonda was on the right side of History. Personally, I think that she went too far when she physically visited North Vietnam. That was the bridge too far, I will agree.

America is Historically famous for its GREAT debaters and its enshrining freedom of speech in its laws. There is the question of how much hate should be placed on the shoulders of people on the OTHER SIDE of ANY debate?

Heh. Jane Fonda. Just one of many vapid Hollywood pontificators.

For the life of me, I will never understand why so many people put such value on things said by people whose ONLY proven talent is making other people believe they're someone they're not.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Uggh, it just never ends…

Ironically, there has been a cooling trend for the last seven years because there was a particularly HOT year at about that time. While recent years still show a warming trend, if you choose to start at a particularly HOT point then even warm years look cooler.

With decades of data, you chose a point seven years ago because doing so showed what you wanted it to. Perhaps you didn’t notice that you chose an example of a warming climate to try to make your point that the climate is cooling… or maybe you thought no one would bother to look.

The next dozen times when you trot out the question of the seven years, please include this post - it will save me the time and trouble of doing it myself.

But there is a reason why the earth has been cooling for the past 7 years -- in terms of a linear trend. I'll check back next month to see if that trend continues.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Uggh, it just never ends…

Ironically, there has been a cooling trend for the last seven years because there was a particularly HOT year at about that time. While recent years still show a warming trend, if you choose to start at a particularly HOT point then even warm years look cooler.

With decades of data, you chose a point seven years ago because doing so showed what you wanted it to. Perhaps you didn’t notice that you chose an example of a warming climate to try to make your point that the climate is cooling… or maybe you thought no one would bother to look.

The next dozen times when you trot out the question of the seven years, please include this post - it will save me the time and trouble of doing it myself.

Good post.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Heh. Jane Fonda. Just one of many vapid Hollywood pontificators.

For the life of me, I will never understand why so many people put such value on things said by people whose ONLY proven talent is making other people believe they're someone they're not.

Some of these actors have many businesses and many interests other than in just pretending to be someone else. And many are not attracted to the Hollywood scene but are happy in various local settings.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Another "drop the mike" proof that the Earth has Global Warming and the article also says that the reason is man-made. How many of these articles must be posted to convince the 1% of Global Warming Deniers? To deny or not to deny, that is the question. I just worry that the truth is NOT reaching the average US person, that it is not talked about enough on the NORMAL TV stations, which allows the Climate Change deniers to influence public opinion through propaganda.

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