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YeOldeCurmudgeon 12-12-2022 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2165749)
Sure. So ... how much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth last year? Should be very easy to find via Google since everyone knows for sure that it is happening.

Sounding, are you a scientist? So, whether or not you are, can you explain why the GHE is based on junk science. If you make such a statement you should be able to explain it. Just saying it is meaningless because if you don't understand the mechanisms of how it works, then you shouldn't be saying it -- because you're only basing your statement on what someone tells you. How do you know they're telling the truth if you don't understand how it works? Oh, I know that greatest of all scientists and foremost genius of all time, Donald Trump, told you.

JMintzer 12-12-2022 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2165805)
Dr Fauci did NOT lie. The Pandemic was NEW and unique so the medical knowledge CHANGED as new scientific facts came in. Fauci was the main spokesman for Pandemic knowledge as it came AVAILABLE. So, of course if someone compared an EARLIER Fauci statement with a statement 6 months later and some TV host showed one a current video clip, and then compared it to an earlier Fauci video clip it might appear that Fauci lied, when in fact, he did not. He was a spokesman about CHANGING INFORMATION so naturally, he changed with each new piece of knowledge. Fauchi had about a 60 year history of service to medical science. HISTORY will remember him well, and so will I. He was also a good basketball player in College. (a little known fact)

He admitted he lied... Not changed his opinion, but LIED...

JMintzer 12-12-2022 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2165807)
The last 7 years of the Gulf of Mexico WARMING was pretty important to the many Floridians living in Fort Meyers Beach that either DIED or lost homes during Hurricane Ian. So, I am suggesting, that whether a short warming period IS important depends on who you are, where you are, and when you are somewhere.

Living in a costal area has been dangerous ever since people decided to live in costal areas...

It only matters IF the hurricane happens to make landfall... The vast majority of them don't...

JMintzer 12-12-2022 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2165807)
The last 7 years of the Gulf of Mexico WARMING was pretty important to the many Floridians living in Fort Meyers Beach that either DIED or lost homes during Hurricane Ian. So, I am suggesting, that whether a short warming period IS important depends on who you are, where you are, and when you are somewhere.

What about the Galveston Hurricane of 1900? Did the last 7-8 years of so called warming cause that one?

YeOldeCurmudgeon 12-12-2022 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2165820)
What about the Galveston Hurricane of 1900? Did the last 7-8 years of so called warming cause that one?

You don't judge a weather pattern by one event. Go to NASA and look at the graphs, look at the changes, especially since the year 2000. The Global Warming and related events are increasing at a faster pace. If you have been watching the Weather Channel, you would know that catastrophic weather events have been increasing and have been more damaging.

Why do people try to deny it? Why do they listen to politicians and not professional scientists like those that work for NASA and the NOAA? I guess you simply don't want to accept it, so it's better to try to deny it so you can ignore it and live as you have been living. Yes, an "Inconvenient Truth" was the perfect title for Gore's film and what he was predicting is coming true and yet people continue to deny it.

sounding 12-12-2022 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2165779)
do the numbers.

So what ... in addition to humans, polar bears have tripled -- and neither harm the climate.

sounding 12-12-2022 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2165832)
You don't judge a weather pattern by one event. Go to NASA and look at the graphs, look at the changes, especially since the year 2000. The Global Warming and related events are increasing at a faster pace. If you have been watching the Weather Channel, you would know that catastrophic weather events have been increasing and have been more damaging.

Why do people try to deny it? Why do they listen to politicians and not professional scientists like those that work for NASA and the NOAA? I guess you simply don't want to accept it, so it's better to try to deny it so you can ignore it and live as you have been living. Yes, an "Inconvenient Truth" was the perfect title for Gore's film and what he was predicting is coming true and yet people continue to deny it.

All of Gore's climate change predictions failed.

sounding 12-12-2022 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2165811)
Sounding, are you a scientist? So, whether or not you are, can you explain why the GHE is based on junk science. If you make such a statement you should be able to explain it. Just saying it is meaningless because if you don't understand the mechanisms of how it works, then you shouldn't be saying it -- because you're only basing your statement on what someone tells you. How do you know they're telling the truth if you don't understand how it works? Oh, I know that greatest of all scientists and foremost genius of all time, Donald Trump, told you.

Who or what I am is not important. What is important is data and truth. Any idiot can make a forecast, but only an experienced forecaster who has made many verified forecasts can be trusted -- which is why all of Al Gore's climate change forecasts failed. So show me the data which supports the human danger to climate. Specifically, tell me how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year. It's easy -- just use your thermometer as a starting point.

fdpaq0580 12-12-2022 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2165833)
So what ... in addition to humans, polar bears have tripled -- and neither harm the climate.

1. Polar bear numbers are up thanks to hunting restrictions, not climate change which is bad for them.
2. The approximately 8 billion humans and the effects of their polution and habitat destruction has very definitely contributed to global warming. No amount of evidence, nothing will convince you. So, continue to ignore truth and continue to preach your misinformation and maybe, just maybe a miracle will happen to vindicate your opinions in the end.
Actually, I wish you were right, but you're not.

sounding 12-12-2022 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2165838)
1. Polar bear numbers are up thanks to hunting restrictions, not climate change which is bad for them.
2. The approximately 8 billion humans and the effects of their polution and habitat destruction has very definitely contributed to global warming. No amount of evidence, nothing will convince you. So, continue to ignore truth and continue to preach your misinformation and maybe, just maybe a miracle will happen to vindicate your opinions in the end.
Actually, I wish you were right, but you're not.

"No amount of evidence"? So, tell me ... how much has "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year?

fdpaq0580 12-12-2022 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2165811)
Sounding, are you a scientist? So, whether or not you are, can you explain why the GHE is based on junk science. If you make such a statement you should be able to explain it. Just saying it is meaningless because if you don't understand the mechanisms of how it works, then you shouldn't be saying it -- because you're only basing your statement on what someone tells you. How do you know they're telling the truth if you don't understand how it works? Oh, I know that greatest of all scientists and foremost genius of all time, Donald Trump, told you.

Some are so committed to their belief that they would "rather die" (figuratively speaking) than be wrong. Others are so immersed in their denial that virtually no amount of evidence contrary to their position will be enough. Ever.
The earth is warming and human activity is helping to speed things up.

sounding 12-12-2022 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2165845)
Some are so committed to their belief that they would "rather die" (figuratively speaking) than be wrong. Others are so immersed in their denial that virtually no amount of evidence contrary to their position will be enough. Ever.
The earth is warming and human activity is helping to speed things up.

And now you know why Al Gore (and the others) are afraid of public debate -- because they are afraid to talk about data -- the key to truth. All they have is narrative -- and no data proving "man-made" CO2 affects our climate. In the meantime, enjoy our ongoing global cooling. And for data-driven information you are welcome here ... The Villages Weather Club

fdpaq0580 12-12-2022 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2165839)
"No amount of evidence"? So, tell me ... how much has "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year?

Why should I tell you? I'm not your secretary. You can look it up if you really cared. Besides, no matter what I or anyone tells you or the other deniers you call it bs and go off on another rant.

fdpaq0580 12-12-2022 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2165846)
And now you know why Al Gore (and the others) are afraid of public debate -- because they are afraid to talk about data -- the key to truth. All they have is narrative -- and no data proving "man-made" CO2 affects our climate. In the meantime, enjoy our ongoing global cooling. And for data-driven information you are welcome here ... The Villages Weather Club

I think you are intentionally mischaracterizing " Al Gore (and the others)" as being afraid of debate. They just don't want to waste their time talking with those who only want a platform to spew their misinformation and will never accept truth over ideology.
As to data, it was data from years of global studies that brought the subject in the first place.

sounding 12-12-2022 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2165847)
Why should I tell you? I'm not your secretary. You can look it up if you really cared. Besides, no matter what I or anyone tells you or the other deniers you call it bs and go off on another rant.

Good try, but that's not the answer -- and neither does Al Gore know. It's not my responsibility to look it up, since I am not claiming that CO2 is harming the climate. If you truly believe "man-made" CO2 is harming the climate then you should be able to say how much man-made CO2 has warmed the earth last year. Everyone knows that to be true - right?


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