[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by jbartle1

Cardiologists friend, sold their oceanfront home, couldn’t afford the insurance and taxes in NC, fyi

Ripping yarn! Please elaborate. Inquiring minds want to know!

[Blueblaze]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

First, sorry that your son lost his job, but I'd be willing to bet the barn that there is more to that story, whether you know it or not.
As to the starving of 4 billion people, that makes no sense because nobody wants to run the thermostat down. That would send us backwards towards an ice age. We, at least I, would like to see us take our boot off the warming distruction of the planet. Stop cutting rain forests (that provide oxygen for us to breath) and replacing them with coffee plantations that provide far less oxygen. Stop polluting the land, sea, rivers, lakes and the air. Stop applauding folks who have more than 2 kids. Over population is, imo, the root of all humanities woes. (Nobody has to kill anybody. Cutting the birth rate means more of everything for the living, a better quality of life). Cut the use of fossil fuels and replace them when we can with other, cleaner sources of energy. My list goes on, but the basic idea is for human beings to help make our planet a healthier, cleaner, better, bio-rich place for our species to engage in more ethical pursuits than the petty squabbles over wealth, land and power.
We've "paved paradise and put up a parking lot". Think how it could be if we could "get ourselves back to the garden", knowing what we know now.

Yes, no doubt, that was not the single incident that caused my son-in-law to lose tenure. He is a very sober and intelligent man, and I imagine there were other incidents where he attempted to inject logic into the religious arguments over the causes of so-called "climate change".

But there is a somewhat happy ending to the story. He was not fired -- which is very unusual in cases such as this. His students started a letter-writing campaign and a congressman stepped in. But I suspect the greater influence was the millions of dollars his grants bring into the university. And here's the ironic twist. Those grants are to study how grazing grasses can be selected or modified to make them more resilient to the droughts in many places of the world that have occurred as a result the recent warming trend (in particular, the pampas of South America where we get most of our beef these days).

Unlike the religious zealots who argue over silly solutions for the weather 100 years from now, he's working to come up with solutions for the immediate climate problems of today.

But it still wasn't enough to save his tenure. The University is still free to fire him at a whim, which I'm sure they will do when his current projects are finished and the public eye is elsewhere. Such is the state of "free speech" on our nation's campuses.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

Yes, no doubt, that was not the single incident that caused my son-in-law to lose tenure. He is a very sober and intelligent man, and I imagine there were other incidents where he attempted to inject logic into the religious arguments over the causes of so-called "climate change".

But there is a somewhat happy ending to the story. He was not fired -- which is very unusual in cases such as this. His students started a letter-writing campaign and a congressman stepped in. But I suspect the greater influence was the millions of dollars his grants bring into the university. And here's the ironic twist. Those grants are to study how grazing grasses can be selected or modified to make them more resilient to the droughts in many places of the world that have occurred as a result the recent warming trend (in particular, the pampas of South America where we get most of our beef these days).

Unlike the religious zealots who argue over silly solutions for the weather 100 years from now, he's working to come up with solutions for the immediate climate problems of today.

But it still wasn't enough to save his tenure. The University is still free to fire him at a whim, which I'm sure they will do when his current projects are finished and the public eye is elsewhere. Such is the state of "free speech" on our nation's campuses.

Well, I, for one, wish him every success. But always remember that the immediate climate problems of today took a lot of clever people a long time to create. I think that whatever we can reasonably do is going to take awhile. So, the sooner we begin, the better.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Well, I, for one, wish him every success. But always remember that the immediate climate problems of today took a lot of clever people a long time to create. I think that whatever we can reasonably do is going to take awhile. So, the sooner we begin, the better.

The only man-made climate problem is climate alarmism. It takes a lot of clever people to make up misinformation -- such as NOAA altering temperature data.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

The only man-made climate problem is climate alarmism. It takes a lot of clever people to make up misinformation -- such as NOAA altering temperature data.

Oh! Another pretty picture. How clever of you.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Oh! Another pretty picture. How clever of you.

It's not clever -- it's just data fraud. Here is more evidence ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgk3xFHvWLE