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The NOAA forecast verification data has been posted, and it shows that NOAA made a 30-day forecast for the lower-48 states, which forecast above average temperatures for all states -- but the verification data shows most of the states saw average or cooler-than-average temperatures. Specifically, most of Florida was cooler-than-average (including The Villages) while the rest of the state was average.

[Bay Kid]

See it is working!?!????

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Yes, it is working. NOAA keeps forecasting CO2-driven hot temperatures -- and Mother Nature keeps delivering naturally occurring sun-driven weather. And that's how it works. It's also interesting to note that Professor Manabe from Princeton University was awarded the 2021 Nobel Prize in physics “for the physical modeling of Earth’s climate, quantifying variability and reliably predicting global warming” ... which used CO2 a key predictor. His work has been incorporated into the AFGDL climate model used by the U.N. and our forecast centers. The problem is, his Nobel Prizing winning model had the WORST verification statistics of all 102 forecast models. And that's how it works. Next time you hear a forecast for unprecedented heat -- just go back and check how it verified -- and that's how it should work.

[cherylncliff]

Average ocean temperatures continuing to increase. Arctic and antarctic ice melting at accelerating rates. These are buffers that help moderate air and land temperatures. Once these buffers can no longer keep up, temperatures will rise much faster. Also, the loss of the ice buffers results in increasing ocean levels. But this us just science so probably you'll just ignore it.

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To follow "the science" is dangerous, but to follow "the data" is truth. Your "science" says Arctic is melting fast, but this video shows you the "data" ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2_TaFgEeY Now, it's your turn to show me the "data" about Antarctic ice.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by cherylncliff

Average ocean temperatures continuing to increase. Arctic and antarctic ice melting at accelerating rates. These are buffers that help moderate air and land temperatures. Once these buffers can no longer keep up, temperatures will rise much faster. Also, the loss of the ice buffers results in increasing ocean levels. But this us just science so probably you'll just ignore it.

So, if we replace all gasoline vehicles in the U.S. with electric vehicles tomorrow, will that do anything to solve the problem?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

So, if we replace all gasoline vehicles in the U.S. with electric vehicles tomorrow, will that do anything to solve the problem?

Yes unless it does not. Seems to me we should do our best to reduce our carbon footprint as there are serious questions about what is actually happening and if nothing else helps to give us cleaner air and water.

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Tell me ... how much has "man-made" CO2 altered earth's temperature last year?

[sounding]

It will make no difference since the sun is driving our climate. It's obvious -- the earth has cooled the last 7 years while CO2 continues to sky-rocket. The decreasing hurricane and tornado seasons is part of the trend.

[Blueblaze]

Well, let's not facts get in the way of a good narrative!

Just got back from Alaska, by the way. Turns out, the glaciers are GROWING. Don't mention it to NOAA, though. Make's 'em mad when facts get in the way of their "science"!

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Yes unless it does not. Seems to me we should do our best to reduce our carbon footprint as there are serious questions about what is actually happening and if nothing else helps to give us cleaner air and water.

I absolutely agree with you Stu.
Problem is many will shake their heads and say it's too hard why even try?

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Ditto. In fact, there are many glaciers growing -- which of course the media refuses to acknowledge -- but in the weather club, you'll hear and see the truth.

[sdeikenberry]

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

Well, let's not facts get in the way of a good narrative!

Just got back from Alaska, by the way. Turns out, the glaciers are GROWING. Don't mention it to NOAA, though. Make's 'em mad when facts get in the way of their "science"!

I just googled "Are Alaska's Glacier's growing" and while a few are increasing in size, most are still decreasing. You can google it yourself if you don't believe me.

[sdeikenberry]

Originally Posted by sounding

Yes, it is working. NOAA keeps forecasting CO2-driven hot temperatures -- and Mother Nature keeps delivering naturally occurring sun-driven weather. And that's how it works. It's also interesting to note that Professor Manabe from Princeton University was awarded the 2021 Nobel Prize in physics “for the physical modeling of Earth’s climate, quantifying variability and reliably predicting global warming” ... which used CO2 a key predictor. His work has been incorporated into the AFGDL climate model used by the U.N. and our forecast centers. The problem is, his Nobel Prizing winning model had the WORST verification statistics of all 102 forecast models. And that's how it works. Next time you hear a forecast for unprecedented heat -- just go back and check how it verified -- and that's how it should work.

This post would mean more if you could actually include a link to back up your statement. Just last night on Channel 6 Weather Tom Sorrels, Lead Weatherman, showed a graphic that in August we had only 3 days that were normal or below normal temps. The remaining 28 days were above normal...not by much, but above normal. So, your claim is not completely true me thinks...

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All my statements are based on "data" -- unlike all the "narratives" you hear in the media. Here is the official NOAA forecast and verification data for August ... https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/produc..._veri.grid.php There are also other sources, which are discussed in The Weather Club. Note ... any one station may have different statistics, but as a whole -- Florida was average or below-average for August 2022. The important question is ... why won't the media acknowledge what is really happening?