[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

1. The "US Drought Monitor" is a climate alarmist outlet. Read how it operates. It uses "subjective methods" and "unnamed experts" to create scary maps.
2. Florida's dry season ends in May. Be patient.
3. Golf courses and lawns are NOT part of natural Florida.

# 3 IS true !

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Velvet

I just let the grass grow a little longer, give an extra day’s watering to the bushes - problem seems solved.

Not by a long Global Warming shot!

[sounding]

A warmer planet is a better planet. Maybe, if it gets warm enough, the Vikings will return to Greenland -- which will be more green -- and that's a good thing.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by blueash

Tell me which one of these groups is the alarmist one, or all of them in your humble opinion

The U.S. Drought Monitor is produced through a partnership between the National Drought Mitigation Center at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, the United States Department of Agriculture, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

There is nothing subjective about their work except the dividing lines which they have derived between categories of severity of drought. And while where to draw a line is subjective, they are totally consistent in their definitions and their data is derived from objective readings confirmed with on site reports.

I see nowhere on their site that they use "unnamed experts" in fact the authors are listed and the sources are listed. And if you find the maps "scary" maybe the drought conditions in those dry areas are "scary" Perhaps you will tell us that the low rainfall in Florida has not produced drought conditions, that there is no increased fire risk and this is all a cabal of "scientists" just looking for fame and fortune at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.

Never trust those Cabal Scientists. Real men disembowel Scientists.

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Agree -- that's a short shot. The long shot would be to stop cutting grass altogether -- and return Florida to nature. Florida did just fine for millions of years without sprinkler systems -- or golf courses.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Florida's "dry season" runs through May -- this is completely normal. There's nothing unusual about our current conditions -- except for lots of unnatural golf courses and manicured lawns.

I agree - turn those golf courses into something useful. Even 200 Pickle's ball courts would be preferable. Or maybe a few field archery courses with natural vegetation of course. Think of all the quail and fish that are killed by the UNNATURAL chemicals used to force a golf course to function.....to the detriment of nature.
As an extra special positive result - imagine if an invading foreign army entered the US - would it be better to REPELL them with TRAINED ARCHERS or with TRAINED GOLFERS pelting them with golf balls? Just asking?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Mazjaz

Over the 65 years of my life living in different parts of the country, been thru excessive droughts, excessive rain periods, excessive snows, little snow. The climate changes yearly, daily, and often. Always has always will. Not concerned one bit when you look at the history of the earth’s climate over thousands of years.

Some fantasies are indeed comforting.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by blueash

Please tell me what sovereign action we should be considering regarding water use in Florida as individuals. You might have a great solution for each of us to pursue.

Men plugging dikes might have new meaning with the recent law changes in Fl.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

A warmer planet is a better planet. Maybe, if it gets warm enough, the Vikings will return to Greenland -- which will be more green -- and that's a good thing.

A warmer planet will cause flies, mosquitos, mice, and other rodent vermin to carry more deadly diseases to more humans in the now warmer temperate zones where the bulk of the earth's population exists. Be careful what you wish for, it could backfire!

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

A warmer planet will cause flies, mosquitos, mice, and other rodent vermin to carry more deadly diseases to more humans in the now warmer temperate zones where the bulk of the earth's population exists. Be careful what you wish for, it could backfire!

Think outside the box. When the earth warms, populations will move north. Once the Greenland ice melts just think of how many millions of more people can live there. And image of all the coal, oil, and gas just waiting to be mined -- and probably gold & silver and more. Oh -- I am wishing for global warming. No wonder Trump wanted to buy Greenland.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

A warmer planet will cause flies, mosquitos, mice, and other rodent vermin to carry more deadly diseases to more humans in the now warmer temperate zones where the bulk of the earth's population exists. Be careful what you wish for, it could backfire!

When we get warmer, adjustments will just have to be made. Hopefully we do a lot better than the dinosaurs did when they moved from a warmer phase to a colder Ice age. The earth will always warm and cool, it is up to the human race to adjust or die.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Normal

When we get warmer, adjustments will just have to be made. Hopefully we do a lot better than the dinosaurs did when they moved from a warmer phase to a colder Ice age. The earth will always warm and cool, it is up to the human race to adjust or die.

History repeatedly shows that humanity advances during warm periods (like the Medieval and Roman warm periods) and suffers during cold periods (like the Dark Ages and the Little Ice Age).

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by sounding

History repeatedly shows that humanity advances during warm periods (like the Medieval and Roman warm periods) and suffers during cold periods (like the Dark Ages and the Little Ice Age).

Oh interesting! There were other times in history when temperatures rose above the norm. The only problem is that todays thermometer is only almost 200 years old. So with only 200 years of measured history in small records, we can can now speculate about the prior 2000 years as the same as last first 100 years of the thermometer

Clown world

[Boffin]

[sounding]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Oh interesting! There were other times in history when temperatures rose above the norm. The only problem is that todays thermometer is only almost 200 years old. So with only 200 years of measured history in small records, we can can now speculate about the prior 2000 years as the same as last first 100 years of the thermometer

Clown world

While speculation is fun, there are numerous proxies showing past warm/cool cycles, which are confirmed by the IPCC and many others. This is how we know about the Ice Ages and many other climate changes. Javier Vinos has a great book about this called -- Climate of the Past, Present and Future.