[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Normal

The world will change, what perhaps can be entertaining is watching man expel labor to control a planet that is still going to do as it wishes. Cities that have been under water for several millennia were never put there by mankind’s pollution. We cannot make the planet do as we wish. It will change constantly, the real question is can we adapt?

I personally am not entertained by someone’s misery. I just know what I see as out of our control. Can you change the Earth’s rotation speed? Can you make the Earth tilt more or less than its 28.5 degrees? Can you make it orbit closer or farther from the sun? All these events happen, but I don’t think you can control them.

Completely agree. But, one has to deal with the here and now. Finding solutions is all anyone can do. Hopefully, this devastating weather pattern is temporary and we will see relief soon.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by Randall55

It's early in the season, but Anchorage Alaska has already seen record breaking amounts of snowfall. Some areas, surrounding the city, accumulated two feet within two days. A snow emergency has been declared. Is El Niño the cause? Do you think the scientists who support the theory of global warming are staring at their monitors in disbelief? Strange thing, I did not see this reported on the news as often as this summer's record breaking heat. Any thoughts on why?

You clearly don't understand the concept of global warming. Global warming doesn't mean every winter is going to be warmer, or that certain areas won't have cold temperatures, it just means the RATE of climate change has increased due to human causes. There is a direct connection between what scientists have identified as global warming and catastrophic weather events, so we see many more events like record breaking floods and more frequent and intense storms. Obviously, the cost to society is in the billions.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by mickey100

You clearly don't understand the concept of global warming. Global warming doesn't mean every winter is going to be warmer, or that certain areas won't have cold temperatures, it just means the RATE of climate change has increased due to human causes. There is a direct connection between what scientists have identified as global warming and catastrophic weather events, so we see many more events like record breaking floods and more frequent and intense storms. Obviously, the cost to society is in the billions.

With Global Warming, Increased precipitation includes heavy snowfall. Over the past few months, many cities were flooded due to an abundance of rain. When I read Anchorage had EARLY RECORD BREAKING SNOWFALL, my questions were these:

Is the cause El Niño? Which would mean this is a MERELY a 2023/2024 phenomenon.

Are scientists shaking their heads in disbelief? Record amounts of precipitation AROUND THE WORLD seem to prove their theory of Global Warming is correct. Do they think it is going to get worse? Are we reaching the point of no return?

Why hasn't there been news coverage like the daily interest in summer's scorching heat? Followers of Global Warming would want ALL WEATHER EMERGENCIES to get equal coverage.

[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

The Mississippi River is at the lowest levels recorded. In July, The Army Corp of Engineers had to quickly devise a means to stop the salt water intrusion from the Gulf that could destroy the river.

Months later, the river is still at low levels. This is reducing the amount of grain and other crops that can be sent by barge. Many farmers have lost $25,000 to $50,000 this season due to this inability to ship their crops.

One slight variance in the planet, in this case high ocean water and low river water, can create economic disaster and even famine. Alarming situations, like my example, are occurring around the world. This is not humorous . Unless, you can survive without food and water. If you can, then laugh until your "extraordinary" belly aches.

Interesting, we have a place on Pool 8 of the Mississippi, it has been so high the COE had to open the flood gates many times this year. This is a pic of our boat landing that is underwater...LOW WATER ...I dont think so

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by bcsnave

Interesting, we have a place on Pool 8 of the Mississippi, it has been so high the COE had to open the flood gates many times this year. This is a pic of our boat landing that is underwater...LOW WATER ...I dont think so

Low flow in the lower Mississippi resulting in a saltwater wedge flowing upstream and affecting the water supply for New Orleans. Easy enough to Google.

Perhaps this high water will flow downstream and alleviate the problem.

[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Low flow in the lower Mississippi resulting in a saltwater wedge flowing upstream and affecting the water supply for New Orleans. Easy enough to Google.

Perhaps this high water will flow downstream and alleviate the problem.

Certainly easy to Google Mississippi River Flooding 2023

Mississippi River Flood of 2023

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by bcsnave

Interesting, we have a place on Pool 8 of the Mississippi, it has been so high the COE had to open the flood gates many times this year. This is a pic of our boat landing that is underwater...LOW WATER ...I dont think so

The LOWER Mississippi is at extreme low levels. Flooding of the Upper Mississippi is also occurring.This is puzzling scientists.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by bcsnave

Certainly easy to Google Mississippi River Flooding 2023

Mississippi River Flood of 2023

April and May in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa??? And somehow that is pertinent to saltwater incursion in Louisiana in October!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Low flow in the lower Mississippi resulting in a saltwater wedge flowing upstream and affecting the water supply for New Orleans. Easy enough to Google.

Perhaps this high water will flow downstream and alleviate the problem.

You mean this graph of the LOWER Mississippi (showing normal levels, as of today)?

Lower Mississippi River Stages

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You mean this graph of the LOWER Mississippi (showing normal levels, as of today)?

Lower Mississippi River Stages

No, it is not about river levels.

Much of the Mississippi river bed in at least southern Louisiana is below sea level. If a dam was built above New Orleans and the river flow stopped, the water from the Gulf would flow northwards. The only thing holding the saltwater out of the Mississippi is the volume of water flowing down the river.

In the late September to early November timeframe, the flow in the river was insufficient to keep the saltwater out. It appears that even last week the saltwater wedge had pushed 63 miles up river. It seems like the river is beginning to win this month. I haven't seen any articles more recent than mid-October so maybe the problem has abated for this year.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

No, it is not about river levels.

Much of the Mississippi river bed in at least southern Louisiana is below sea level. If a dam was built above New Orleans and the river flow stopped, the water from the Gulf would flow northwards. The only thing holding the saltwater out of the Mississippi is the volume of water flowing down the river.

In the late September to early November timeframe, the flow in the river was insufficient to keep the saltwater out. It appears that even last week the saltwater wedge had pushed 63 miles up river. It seems like the river is beginning to win this month. I haven't seen any articles more recent than mid-October so maybe the problem has abated for this year.

Not about river levels?

Then please explain this post that started this offshoot of the thread:

"The Mississippi River is at the lowest levels recorded. In July, The Army Corp of Engineers had to quickly devise a means to stop the salt water intrusion from the Gulf that could destroy the river."

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Not about river levels?

Then please explain this post that started this offshoot of the thread:

"The Mississippi River is at the lowest levels recorded. In July, The Army Corp of Engineers had to quickly devise a means to stop the salt water intrusion from the Gulf that could destroy the river."

Google is your friend.

Shipping problems in the mid-Missippi above Louisiana. Salt intrusion in the lower Mississippi at and below New Orleans. Shipping issues due to low water level. Salt intrusion due to low flow. Perhaps the low levels in the middle section which affect shipping result in a low flow in the lower section that enables the salt intrusion.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Not about river levels?

Then please explain this post that started this offshoot of the thread:

"The Mississippi River is at the lowest levels recorded. In July, The Army Corp of Engineers had to quickly devise a means to stop the salt water intrusion from the Gulf that could destroy the river."

The Information is easy to find. Google: drought Mississippi River or historic low levels Mississippi River

The Mississippi is a long river, you can't pick an area then state. Nope! Not happening! Google what was stated.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Google is your friend.

Shipping problems in the mid-Missippi above Louisiana. Salt intrusion in the lower Mississippi at and below New Orleans. Shipping issues due to low water level. Salt intrusion due to low flow. Perhaps the low levels in the middle section which affect shipping result in a low flow in the lower section that enables the salt intrusion.

Then you should have responded to the person who claimed the river levels were low...

You know, the person to whom's claim I responded?

Oh, and I used Google to get my information, so I don't understand your need for the snarky "Google is your friend" response...

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Then you should have responded to the person who claimed the river levels were low...

You know, the person to whom's claim I responded?

Oh, and I used Google to get my information, so I don't understand your need for the snarky "Google is your friend" response...

I'm confused (not the first time). You responded to my post and I answered you.

The Mississippi is very long and water levels can vary along its course. Reports from Memphis show a very shallow Mississippi. Obviously, the river where it meets the Gulf is not going to be low, the saltwater will flow upstream instead and lead to problems with New Orleans drinking water.

I used a search engine to learn about the varied river levels, the shipping issues, and the salt intrusion. As you did not have the same information, my assumption was you had not looked. Since you *have* looked but still did not see the same reports I don't know what else to suggest.