[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by PugMom

LOL!! ikr, it's SUMMER everyone. it happens every year

I expect it to be 69 during the day and 62 at night. That way can’t be climate change (aka global warming) or ice age coming?

[PugMom]

[Babubhat]

Natural gas futures are you’re friend. Print money

[dhdallas]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news....

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.

It is just the media that loves to focus on any "fear factor" stories they can find. Since they have pretty much moved on from the COVID scare stories, they now have to have something else that will cause the "Nervous Nellies" anxiety and worry.

[allsport]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I was in England in late 80s and early 90’s. Even when temperatures hit 85 degrees there was heat related deaths. And yes it got over 90 several times.

I was born in NW Missouri nearly every July and August it reaches 100 degrees or more. My grandpa was poor we didn’t have air conditioning. People worked 10 or 12 hours in heat. Only remember a few heat related problems.

I was also stationed in ft worth tx. In 1980 the whole month of June it never got below 100 degrees during the day or less than 85 at night. I worked on flight line, concrete oven.

The part about MO that you do not remember is that people had shorter life expectancy when working in the fields for 10 to 12 hrs a day. The heat and resulting fires have been a direct result of our decadent use of fossil fuels. We need to save the planet from burning our great grandchildren up. Solar power everywhere.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Temperatures reported on the weather channel and other weather reports are the product of science, scientific measurement, and scientific records. So are measurements of glaciers and ocean rise. The weather channel often has pictures of glaciers taken in 1940 and compares them to today. These pictures do NOT lie and are not in the least influenced by social beliefs.
......The world's glaciers are melting!

Of course they are. They have been melting for 12-15,000 years and will continue to melt for the next 15-30,000 years. Then they will start to grow again until 50-70,000 years from now most of the US will again be covered in ice up to 2 miles thick. This is expected, it has happened four times in the last 1 million years.

But the point is simple-----IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SUVS, "CARBON FOOTPRINT", OR ANY OTHER ACTIVITY OF MAN OR ANY OTHER WOKE BS.. We are currently in an ice age that started about 3 million years ago, and will continue long beyond the lifetime of TOTV. And the idiots that want to throw 100 TRILLION dollars at "combatting" this over the next 50 years are truly morons (or brilliant with an agenda). But the best yet was this week as the US declared "climate change" an "emergency". Call an electric ambulance---but tell it to take the scenic route since it has 20,000 years to get here

[HRDave]

Ironic. Ehh??
Cleaning Up Air Pollution May Strengthen Global Warming - Scientific American

[lindaelane]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Common sense - sigh. It seems to be the answer to everything.

Phoenix normally has temps over 100 for more than a month each summer. This year they are breaking records. With temps over 100 people die from exposure. England experienced over 1000 deaths from heat so far this summer.

Yeah, all they need is common sense... ahem.

Be aware that all drowning deaths are classified as heat deaths during hot months in England. We would need to know the number of drowning deaths in the average "normal" summer and subtract that from 1000 to get the (non-politicized) useful statistic from which to make an evaluation.

In 2019 there were 892 heat related deaths in England. In July 2021 there were 915 heat related deaths in England, but I do not remember record temperatures then.

June of 1953 is England's hottest June on record.

[forebubba]

Originally Posted by banjobob

Your absolutely right , follow the money to see why this hoax is continually being promoted.. Maybe the next scam “Monkey Pox” will save us all.

I hear Music from the movie Deliverance playing.

[forebubba]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well........Florida is less affected than the midwest because we are an island surrounded by ocean and gulf water which moderates our daily high temperature. London has had temps of 104 degrees recently. Their airport runways have been shut down due to sections actually melting. Rail lines have been shut down in England due to fears of the steel rails buckling. Italy has had many heat-related deaths. The US has had many temperature records set in cities in the last 2 years. There is that video of a YOUNG UPS driver delivering a package to a home and then collapsing due to the heat. Glaciers are melting at an unprecedented rate and also oceans are rising and worrying scientists, who are trying to warn US citizens that they are leaving a mess for their grandchildren.
.......A US heat map shows Florida in orange while Texas, Oklahoma, and other midwestern states are shown in dark RED indicating extreme HEAT and DANGER for outdoor activity. And in Texas, the indoor use of A/C is once again threatening the breakdown of the electrical grid. Florida has to worry about increasingly strong hurricanes for the next months due to the high temperatures of the surrounding water.
......All these facts and many more make it hard for me to NOT come to the conclusion that the globe is dangerously WARMING.

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[forebubba]

Originally Posted by Ken D.

Must have a medical background?

Martin is right and you dont need a medical background.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well........Florida is less affected than the midwest because we are an island surrounded by ocean and gulf water which moderates our daily high temperature. London has had temps of 104 degrees recently. Their airport runways have been shut down due to sections actually melting. Rail lines have been shut down in England due to fears of the steel rails buckling. Italy has had many heat-related deaths. The US has had many temperature records set in cities in the last 2 years. There is that video of a YOUNG UPS driver delivering a package to a home and then collapsing due to the heat. Glaciers are melting at an unprecedented rate and also oceans are rising and worrying scientists, who are trying to warn US citizens that they are leaving a mess for their grandchildren.
.......A US heat map shows Florida in orange while Texas, Oklahoma, and other midwestern states are shown in dark RED indicating extreme HEAT and DANGER for outdoor activity. And in Texas, the indoor use of A/C is once again threatening the breakdown of the electrical grid. Florida has to worry about increasingly strong hurricanes for the next months due to the high temperatures of the surrounding water.
......All these facts and many more make it hard for me to NOT come to the conclusion that the globe is dangerously WARMING.

Almost everything posted is correct--------except:

*** "Glaciers are melting at an unprecedented rate"------Actually, they were melting much faster just prior to the Younger Dryas period of 12,900-11,600 years ago. Oceans were rising as well, and this is probably the ancient basis of the flood story of Noah and many other cultures.

*****The globe is warming, and that has been going on since the last glacial maximum about 20,000 years ago. It is ultimately "dangerous" to coastal cities in another 15,000 years from now, it is hardly an "emergency", but most importantly it has nothing to do with the activities of man, your SUV or any other woke garbage. It is driven by the sun, and variations in the tilt of the Earth's orbit and earth's axis. You can't fight that with a "Paris accord".

***** 1 month of unusual heat in Europe does not a 70,000 year cycle change.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by forebubba

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Actually, a pretty good comment with a deeply flawed conclusion

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news....

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.

No rain to off set the heat

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

You might want take google earth trip across Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, and many more. Only the area they can’t bulldozer has forest. I grew up in NW Missouri. There little timber left except along Missouri River loom hills where they haven’t figure out financially how to flatten plant row crops yet. wait couple more generations and even they will be gone.

The only areas along rivers are Boggs or swap where they can’t drain. IMO any tributary that flows water should of had 50 yard path on each bank to prevent erosion and habit for wild life. The program that allows land to go unplowed part of farm subsidies programs. Under farm subsidies they can also get paid planting or not. Some Hugh farms can draw close to million dollars in just subsidies. Couple farms out in western Kansas made news over years for amount of money they got from farm subsidies. But, with any federal government programs there waste and fraud.

As kid use to here pheasant and quail all time, now there about as rare as dodo bird IMO in area I grew up in

That's all true. And I would like to add that habitat destruction that lowers the numbers of game birds has a NEGATIVE effect on the human quality of life. Pheasant, quail, and duck are great tasting and high in protein. Farmers and city types in Nebraska in the 1960s could lower the family cost for food and enjoy a weekend in the great American outdoors through the SPORT of hunting. It would often involve a cooperative adventure with man's best friend - a sporting dog.
.......Today high summer temperatures in states like Nebraska may make working outdoors and all outdoor sports and even camping and fishing too uncomfortable and even deadly for anyone over age 50. Factory farming may have eliminated the small farmer to the detriment of American society in the rural areas. With fewer small farms, America has less people with keen mechanical skills and love of animals and the land. Only the organic farms and specialized growers can survive. If there were more small farmers in rural America, they could better live through a recession or depression - it would be a more stable society.
........Small farms would be better in high heat climate conditions because they would leave more trees standing than the factory farms. The trees leaves would better reflect the sun's heat and would give more evaporation cooling effect. In general, there are a lot of advantages like to climate and a stable rural society that small farms bring. Maybe government should support them more with tax advantages and other forms of support?