[Fastskiguy]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Definitely agree.

The evidence is all around us . But other stations also very concerned about their ratings keep spewing what they think their viewers want to hear. All the media are concerned about ratings as they want their money to keep coming.

Big oil has a history of propaganda as well-see leaded gasoline and the decline of IQ of half of the US population.

Lead Exposure in Last Century Shrank IQ Scores of Half of Americans | Duke Today

Since they covered up the toxic effects of leaded gasoline for 70 years (!), why would you not think they are covering up global warming?

Joe

[Velvet]

In my view, there may be global warming. It certainly seemed to have happened during the dinosaur era. At that time there were no people to blame. Today, it seems like, there is an unashamed attempt at trying to make people feel guilty in corder to control their behavior. Reminds me a bit of how some religions work.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Velvet

In my view, there may be global warming. It certainly seemed to have happened during the dinosaur era. At that time there were no people to blame. Today, it seems like, there is an unashamed attempt at trying to make people feel guilty in corder to control their behavior. Reminds me a bit of how some religions work.

Laws and religion are meant to keep people's behavior in check but then we have lawyers who look for the loopholes and politicians who create them for lawyers to find. Just a general statement not aimed at anyone particular. And then we had religious leaders who kept everything in dead languages and/or in books they only had access to .

[metalic]

Originally Posted by Velvet

In my view, there may be global warming. It certainly seemed to have happened during the dinosaur era. At that time there were no people to blame. Today, it seems like, there is an unashamed attempt at trying to make people feel guilty in corder to control their behavior.

May be? The data shows very clearly that there IS global warming. While the climate constantly changes, this time it is warming many times faster than in the past and the process started accelerating from the beginning of industrialisation.

Improvements in measuring temperatures (air, land and sea), including from space, have given us much better data than late last century, when it was fairly easy to deny mankind's involvement.

Accepting that the rapid warming is caused by us is hard, because it means we need to take action and be part of the solution but, if you don't do this for yourself, at least do it for your grandchildren. We caused this mess - it is up to us to tackle it.

[JWinATL]

My late husband was with the National Flood Insurance Program for 25 years covering the entire Southeastern US. The best I can tell you is (a) that’s why I don’t live on either coast; and (b) they really have no clue what a hurricane is actually going to do day to day.

Be alert. That’s about the size of it.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by metalic

May be? The data shows very clearly that there IS global warming. While the climate constantly changes, this time it is warming many times faster than in the past and the process started accelerating from the beginning of industrialisation.

Improvements in measuring temperatures (air, land and sea), including from space, have given us much better data than late last century, when it was fairly easy to deny mankind's involvement.

Accepting that the rapid warming is caused by us is hard, because it means we need to take action and be part of the solution but, if you don't do this for yourself, at least do it for your grandchildren. We caused this mess - it is up to us to tackle it.

I understand I think what you are saying. My thoughts are that, no, we are not going to be able to influence climate change because the forces are much greater than us. Reminds me of when they exploded nuclear bombs in order to try to change volcano flows.

To think that we can, is hubris. This does not mean we can’t be better actors, only that it’s not going to make a significant difference. (And yes, I am familiar exactly, with how statistical models work.)

[biker1]

Typically, model forecasted storm tracks show considerable skill about 4 days out with increasing accuracy as you get closer to landfall. Occasionally, I see some remarkably accurate storm tracks 5-6 days out with the NCEP global model. Furthermore, the uncertainty in the storm tracks can be quantified. Simulations of storm intensity changes typically have less fidelity than the storm tracks. I am a retired research meteorologist and I worked at NASA and the National Weather Service where I developed research and operational computer forecast models.

Originally Posted by JWinATL

My late husband was with the National Flood Insurance Program for 25 years covering the entire Southeastern US. The best I can tell you is (a) that’s why I don’t live on either coast; and (b) they really have no clue what a hurricane is actually going to do day to day.

Be alert. That’s about the size of it.

[Taltarzac725]

Actions for a healthy planet | United Nations


Might help a bit with climate change.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by billethkid

the typical weather report is repititioning of useless information……..

i can't get no satisfaction either

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

That and reporting the "heat index" ad nauseum.
If the high is going to be 95 and the HIGHEST heat index in the area 105, they report it as a forecast of 105-110, so everybody hears that 110. If the highest heat index is going to be 104, then they report it as 104-109. Convenient, huh??? And by that, I mean convenient for pushing their idiotic global warming agenda.

The United Nations and the majority of scientists in the WORLD believe that Global Warming is "settled Science". There are a few naysayers that repeat the doctrine put out by the gas and oil conglomerate simply because, for them, billions of dollars are at stake. They buy and control whole TV networks in the US so that they can maintain their ANTIQUATED industry.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by stu from nyc

if you want people to listen tell them the sky is falling and the world might come to an end.

we can talk politics now?

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by taltarzac725

hopefully mother nature will turn it into the middle of the atlantic ocean.

where is k pax to explain it all ?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy

Big oil has a history of propaganda as well-see leaded gasoline and the decline of IQ of half of the US population.

Lead Exposure in Last Century Shrank IQ Scores of Half of Americans | Duke Today

Since they covered up the toxic effects of leaded gasoline for 70 years (!), why would you not think they are covering up global warming?

Joe

Kudos! That is a great article and the personal summation is right on point.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Velvet

In my view, there may be global warming. It certainly seemed to have happened during the dinosaur era. At that time there were no people to blame. Today, it seems like, there is an unashamed attempt at trying to make people feel guilty in corder to control their behavior. Reminds me a bit of how some religions work.

I believe that these facts basically sum up the current situation with respect to POTENTIAL hurricane strength. The Gulf temperatures CURRENTLY are at a RECORD 85 to 90 degrees which is the warmest EVER ON RECORD. Also the Atlantic close to the US coast is also the warmest on record. The size and strength of hurricanes depend on the temperature of the waters that they pass over. This summer Florida may or MAY NOT get lucky, but every year the World will get hotter (due to man's methane and CO2 production) and likely in the next 5 years - Florida will be hit with a Category 6 hurricane. I wonder how that will affect the price of coastal homes. Maybe even inland ones?

[Flash]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I don't understand why anyone is annoyed and critical about fear-mongering, when there wasn't any fear-mongering. The weather reports were reporting weather. There IS a cat-5 hurricane in the Atlantic Ocean. It really IS headed north of the equator. It really IS east of Puerto Rico, and it really IS turning northwesterly-to-northeasterly as it climbs up the map toward New England. That means it really IS going to NOT hit the coast. It's reporting the weather. If someone doesn't like that weather gets reported, maybe - they shouldn't listen to weather reports and don't click on forum threads on the internet with the word "Hurricane" in the title.

Nicely worded. Thank you OBB. I look at Erin as a "shot across the bow". It's not even September and Erin made it to a CAT5 in record time. The Atlantic continues to get warmer. The next CAT5 may not be as likely to head north/northeast.