[Taltarzac725]

Florida county puts damage from Nicole at $522 million | AP News

Nicole hit Florida very hard however you want to describe it.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by sounding

this will be the opening discussion at thursday's (nov 17) weather club meeting at 1:30 pm at laurel manor. There is no data showing hurricane force winds came with nicole -- only tropical storm force winds. This is why the weather channel stopped reporting winds as nicole hit the coast.

your op implies deception. To what end?

[Mrmean58]

I guess the implications are that since Nicole never made land as a hurricane people either 1) needed to react differently or 2) over reacted due to the "deceptive" reporting. I bet there is a lot of folks who either lost their homes to the surf or sustained flooding that would be to differ.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Worldseries27

your op implies deception. To what end?

What's an "op" ?

[jojo]

I had screen damage from Nicole and called the insurance company because I need to replace a large birdcage screen. Parts could be repaired but it was old and we were considering replacing it. I assumed the wind deductible on our policy would apply which is $1000. They said no the hurricane deductible applied which is 2% of home value. I said it was a tropical storm. They said it was a hurricane when it made landfall therefore hurricane deductible applied. Ugh! We have never made a claim for home insurance ever and I guess that continues.

[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by sounding

What's an "op" ?

Old person or original poster. I like the former. Wonder how many other ways of defining. Sorry, you guys get back to discussing this.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by sounding

what's an "op" ?

see above. Anyway, i'll repeat, " to what end?"

[NoMo50]

I suppose to the real weather geeks this parsing of words has value. For the folks in Wilbur-by-the-Sea, whose homes wound up as flotsam in the Atlantic, the distinction is likely pointless.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by sounding

What's an "op" ?

Original post.

[airstreamingypsy]

So, let me see if I have the right. A group of Villagers, are holding a meeting to determine if Nicole was, or wasn't, a hurricane. LOL. I'm sure there's a reason why it matters to you, and your group, what I can't understand is why you think other people care. 74 mph, 73 mph, 76 mph..... is really all the same.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

So, let me see if I have the right. A group of Villagers, are holding a meeting to determine if Nicole was, or wasn't, a hurricane. LOL. I'm sure there's a reason why it matters to you, and your group, what I can't understand is why you think other people care. 74 mph, 73 mph, 76 mph..... is really all the same.

Nothingcane Nicole is only the beginning of the meeting, because it is current events. All weather club meetings start with current events -- which is what many are interested in. After Nicole is a discussion of EPA's failure to use government weather data when creating their Endangerment Finding -- which is the legal basis of the Green New Deal. It's a minor issue, but important to some.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jojo

I had screen damage from Nicole and called the insurance company because I need to replace a large birdcage screen. Parts could be repaired but it was old and we were considering replacing it. I assumed the wind deductible on our policy would apply which is $1000. They said no the hurricane deductible applied which is 2% of home value. I said it was a tropical storm. They said it was a hurricane when it made landfall therefore hurricane deductible applied. Ugh! We have never made a claim for home insurance ever and I guess that continues.

The naming of hurricane, tropical storm, typhoon, etc is not important. It's the "weather" experienced which is important -- such as max wind speed, amount of rainfall, etc.

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by jojo

I had screen damage from Nicole and called the insurance company because I need to replace a large birdcage screen. Parts could be repaired but it was old and we were considering replacing it. I assumed the wind deductible on our policy would apply which is $1000. They said no the hurricane deductible applied which is 2% of home value. I said it was a tropical storm. They said it was a hurricane when it made landfall therefore hurricane deductible applied. Ugh! We have never made a claim for home insurance ever and I guess that continues.

If the storm was a “no named storm” your deductible would apply but since Nicole was named and would be viewed as hurricane even if downgraded the 2% rule applies.

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by sounding

This will be the opening discussion at Thursday's (Nov 17) Weather Club meeting at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor. There is no data showing hurricane force winds came with Nicole -- only tropical storm force winds. This is why The Weather Channel stopped reporting winds as Nicole hit the coast.

And this is the same weather club that seems to have an agenda, discounts climate change.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

And this is the same weather club that seems to have an agenda, discounts climate change.

The Weather Club does not do narrative, agenda, belief, consensus, rumor, or discounts -- only data. If you have data other than what is presented or discussed please provide -- for that is how science moves forward. For example, if you have evidence that Nicole hit Florida as a hurricane, please provide a sample Florida wind report. Also, if you have data showing that hurricanes are increasing, please provide that. If you can show that the earth has warmed for the last 7 years then please provide that data. If you know why the EPA refuses to make public the logic they used to claim CO2 is causing climate harm, please so provide.