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While many will quote studies to the contrary, hurricane intensity and frequency are dropping as CO2 increases. Those other studies that claim storms are getting worse, get away with that nonsense, because they don't show the data -- and that is how misinformation spreads. In the world of verifiable science, the data reveals reality ... Global Tropical Cyclone Activity | Ryan Maue

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by sounding

While many will quote studies to the contrary, hurricane intensity and frequency are dropping as CO2 increases. Those other studies that claim storms are getting worse, get away with that nonsense, because they don't show the data -- and that is how misinformation spreads. In the world of verifiable science, the data reveals reality ... Global Tropical Cyclone Activity | Ryan Maue

I would take anything, or almost anything, put out by Ryan Maue with a real grain of salt. Or maybe a whole pillar of it.

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I would take anything, or almost anything, put out by Ryan Maue with a real grain of salt. Or maybe a whole pillar of it.

That's called climate data denial. He only uses "government" generated data. If you claim to have better data, then please produce it.

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Originally Posted by sounding

That's called climate data denial. He only uses "government" generated data. If you claim to have better data, then please produce it.

That data looks full of logical holes. Or fallacies.

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

That data looks full of logical holes. Or fallacies.

That's an opinion -- not data. In the meantime, the data says global tropical storms of all categories are slowly decreasing with increasing CO2. Data always trumps narrative.

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Originally Posted by sounding

That's an opinion -- not data. In the meantime, the data says global tropical storms of all categories are slowly decreasing with increasing CO2. Data always trumps narrative.

In that man's case his narrative controls his data. The man looks to be a pariah among meteorologists and with good reason.

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

In that man's case his narrative controls his data. The man looks to be a pariah among meteorologists and with good reason.

Again, that's an opinion -- not data. It's amazing to see folks attack the messenger when they have no data to prove otherwise. That's not how science works. But here's some help ... here is the government site for the U.S. storm data, which Maue (and many others) use ... 2022 Atlantic Hurricane Season

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by sounding

Again, that's an opinion -- not data. It's amazing to see folks attack the messenger when they have no data to prove otherwise. That's not how science works. But here's some help ... here is the government site for the U.S. storm data, which Maue (and many others) use ... 2022 Atlantic Hurricane Season

Hurricanes and Climate Change - Center for Climate and Energy SolutionsCenter for Climate and Energy Solutions

Maue's premise is way off.

He is basically a troll among serious scientists.

Climate change is worsening hurricane impacts in the United States by increasing the intensity and decreasing the speed at which they travel. Scientists are currently uncertain whether there will be a change in the number of hurricanes, but they are certain that the intensity and severity of hurricanes will continue to increase. These trends are resulting in hurricanes being far more costly in terms of both physical damages and deaths. To avoid the worst impacts moving forward, communities in both coastal and inland areas need to become more resilient.

Hurricanes are subject to a number of climate change-related influences

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Hurricanes and Climate Change - Center for Climate and Energy SolutionsCenter for Climate and Energy Solutions

Maue's premise is way off.

He is basically a troll among serious scientists.

That C2SE site is part of the problem. They actually believe CO2 is a threat and they actually agree the Paris Climate Agreement is Ok. If you too believe that, then you missed the last Weather Club meeting. But beyond that, the hurricane graph the C2SE folks show is cherry-picked to suit their agenda. All data hurricane data before 1975 can not be accurately compared to current data because we didn't have satellite data prior to that -- so are looking at apples and oranges. Plus, they only show Atlantic storms -- which ignores global trends. Finally by calling a scientist a troll without saying why you disagree with his data is a non-scientific response. I hope someday you can visit the Weather Club so you can see historical tropical storm data which the media will never show you -- in order to keep in the dark.

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My last post (called "7 4 2") seems to be gone. It correctly reflected official National Hurricane Data which shows that 2020 had 7 Major Hurricanes, 2021 had 4, and 2022 so far only has 2 Major Hurricanes. Enjoy reality while it lasts.