[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Wrong. Look at the volume of air in a house as compared to the outdoors. This is exactly the principle upon which heat pumps work. You cannot create more heat by exchanging it---simple thermodynamic principle. the only added heat comes from the inefficiency of the unit and the power that is used

"Simple" and "thermodynamic principle" don't mesh in my little world. :-)

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by mntlblok

"Simple" and "thermodynamic principle" don't mesh in my little world. :-)

6 Claims Made by Climate Change Skeptics—and How to Respond | Rainforest Alliance

Hope this works.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

6 Claims Made by Climate Change Skeptics—and How to Respond | Rainforest Alliance

Hope this works.

I looked at it. At best, it is pseudoscientific propaganda. At worst it is a cult. I'm honestly surprised you don't know better.

Three word sentences was much mor fun than this, my friend

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I looked at it. At best, it is pseudoscientific propaganda. At worst it is a cult. I'm honestly surprised you don't know better.

A cult? Pseudoscientific propaganda. Hogwash.

https://www.nationalacademies.org/ba...iAAEgJ04PD_BwE

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I looked at it. At best, it is pseudoscientific propaganda. At worst it is a cult. I'm honestly surprised you don't know better.

There was very little science presented so I don't know how you can honestly characterize it as pseudoscientfic. I would like to see the data behind some of the responses but the responses (climate is not weather, changes are occurring more rapidly, species are becoming stressed or extinct, etc) are logical and consistent with what would be expected from climate change.

A cult? Rejecting any data and any arguments as merely a result of a greed-driven conspiracy driven sounds more like a cult to me.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Ocean Warming - Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

I have respect for science which is usually people trying to get to the facts not avoid, change or cover them up.

Ocean warming? Are you going to give credit to the many volcanoes that erupt under the oceans/seas? Surely you don't really believe that man is totally responsible for global warming?
About thirty+ years ago, I happened upon a gov. website (back when hacking was not so regulated) where they had stats from electronic monitors at the poles. They were measuring ice thickness and water temperature. When everyone else was concerned about the ice caps melting, the monitors showed that the ice was melting from the bottom, due to the oceans warming. Since then, I believe I read somewhere that the ice had increased a bit in thickness.
Personally, I doubt that man is powerful enough to warm the oceans just by living on this planet. But, I do believe the scientists that say that we are experiencing a multitude of under water volcano eruptions.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

A cult? Pseudoscientific propaganda. Hogwash.

https://www.nationalacademies.org/ba...iAAEgJ04PD_BwE

That article reads just like an instruction manual for scientologists or moonies on how to respond to all the rest of us "stupid" people who don't know that theirs is the one true religion.

So yes---the cult of chicken little the sky is warming

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I do not see two sides of this. There is the global warming threat which may make this world uninhabitable in six generations or so. 180 years.

UN IPCC report: 'Parts of the planet will become uninhabitable'

That caused me to go take a look at said report. "By 2050, a billion people will face coastal flooding risk from rising seas, the report says". Such silliness caused it to lose all credibility.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Ocean Warming - Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

I have respect for science which is usually people trying to get to the facts not avoid, change or cover them up.

It used to be that way post-Copernicus. Not any more. Carefully examine who/what is funding the studies and/or experiments. What is the desired outcome from a particular commercial and/or political power position? Who/what has an agenda to "prove" this or that for their own benefit?

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

A cult? Pseudoscientific propaganda. Hogwash.

https://www.nationalacademies.org/ba...iAAEgJ04PD_BwE

So we agree?

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

It used to be that way. Not any more...

Take a look at the number of "retractions" of scientific "studies/papers" these days, including in such "name" journals as _Science_ and _Nature_. Afraid our world is becoming absurder and absurder.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

No Fred Flintstone did not drive an SUV.
The proliferation of A/C in virtually ever home is helping global warming since the 60’s
Standing next to my A/c condenser doing some yard work this mornin ohboy the heated air coming from it made me retreat inside today it’s 80° with a heat index of 87° it’s 08:20

Don't worry about your A/C warming the planet.
Our Air Source heating is cooling the world.
Works same as A/C but in reverse.
Cold out, warm in, to heat hot water system.
Wonderful system in summer.
Useless in winter when we need heating for radiators, as cold air outside contributes nothing to the system!