[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by spd2918

Ice formation and ice melting is seasonal. The propaganda photo you posted is a scene thay has been repeated over centuries. Polar bears can swim more than 200 miles. They didn't get that way lazing around on hard ice.

Millions of young animals die every year as a result of natural/normal conditions, accidents and predation. That is nature. The polar bears you refer to that can swim 200 miles are healthy adults. The mother and cub (especially the cub) are not likely to be able to accomplish such a feat. Humans can swim the English Channel. Yes, human can do it, but not most humans, and not likely any small children.
Conditions on earth have deteriorated. Much of it is just earth's natural evolution. But since the human industrial revolution, the deterioration has, in many places become devastation by the added contribution of human destructive and polluting activities. This continues to get worse with the ever bloating human population. The situation has become obvious to anyone willing to take a serious look. One need not be a scientist to see when your lawn dies in the heat or when dogs feet get burned on the sidewalk. But what can one think of to say to complacent individuals who want to bury their heads in the sand. Are they selfish or blind or just disconnected and don't have feeling for the world around them.

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

A mother polar bear comforts her cub on a melting ice floe. Take a good look at this...it is happening and is undeniable. Humans and our selfishness are responsible for these poor animals who die frightened and confused. You have to be completely devoid of feeling if you can look at this and not feel immense sadness and guilt.

I look at that & wonder why the massive icy land mass right near them was cut out of the photo. I also see a Mom & her baby having a cuddle.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

I look at that & wonder why the massive icy land mass right near them was cut out of the photo. I also see a Mom & her baby having a cuddle.

Do you have an original with the "massive icy land mass right near them" still in the picture?

I can show three separate pictures of this pair with no land mass near them and an article that reports the nearest land was 12 miles away.

(This was a poor picture to use to make a point but it does not appear to be doctored)

[bmcgowan13]

Originally Posted by Normal

News reporting is biased now. I don’t know how we lost objectivity. Perhaps it isn’t taught anymore? It used to be the fundamental of journalism. It seems now everything is written to support an agenda.

Like Einstein once said, “ If the facts don’t fit the theory, then change the facts. “

Amen to that!

Roger Ailes was truly brilliant. He was an amazing TV pioneer and cashed in. I truly respect him for that. He was the media consultant for Richard Nixon/Ronald Regan. After the Nixon/Kennedy debates he was a visionary who realized that television was indeed the future. He saw a thirst for an outlet that told people what they wanted to hear and he created it. He was the Henry Ford of targeted programming.

With the advent of the internet *everyone* can now site-surf and find the outlet/web site that confirms their already existing opinion and they head to the trough to feed. Nobody needs to hear the opposite opinion--we can so easily migrate to the source (MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, PBS) that confirms/validates our existing premise--it is always reassuring to know that we are always correct.

All these other web/news sources are trying to mimic Ailes--and they are decades behind him and sloppily trying to catch up. He was the Lucy Arnez of opinion /commentary/news content....

Back in the 60's he saw the future. Well done Mr. Ailes--well done.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by bmcgowan13

Amen to that!

Roger Ailes was truly brilliant. He was an amazing TV pioneer and cashed in. I truly respect him for that. He was the media consultant for Richard Nixon/Ronald Regan. After the Nixon/Kennedy debates he was a visionary who realized that television was indeed the future. He saw a thirst for an outlet that told people what they wanted to hear and he created it. He was the Henry Ford of targeted programming.

With the advent of the internet *everyone* can now site-surf and find the outlet/web site that confirms their already existing opinion and they head to the trough to feed. Nobody needs to hear the opposite opinion--we can so easily migrate to the source (MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, PBS) that confirms/validates our existing premise--it is always reassuring to know that we are always correct.

All these other web/news sources are trying to mimic Ailes--and they are decades behind him and sloppily trying to catch up. He was the Lucy Arnez of opinion /commentary/news content....

Back in the 60's he saw the future. Well done Mr. Ailes--well done.

Facts are facts no matter what spin you try to put on them.

[bmcgowan13]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Facts are facts no matter what spin you try to put on them.

Yeah--I wish that were true. "Facts" were presented that Obama was born in Kenya, Hillary Clinton/Soros ran a child-sex ring out of a pizzeria in DC, Bill Gates was injecting us with a microchip through a syringe, and JD Vance had sex with a couch.

Depends on what outlet you were watching to determine what the "subjective facts" are. "Facts" were presented that the moon landing was faked, 9-11 was a government conspiracy, the earth is flat, and climate change is a hoax/scientific fact.

There are no Cronkites anymore--he literally changed world history when he told the American public on TV that the US was in a "stalemate" and the Viet Nam War was not winnable. We listened--because we knew he was not in it for the ratings. That is in no-way the case today.

Who is there now?

We cannot have an honest debate if we cannot agree on the facts. Eyes on the screen=revenue.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by bmcgowan13

Yeah--I wish that were true. "Facts" were presented that Obama was born in Kenya, Hillary Clinton/Soros ran a child-sex ring out of a pizzeria in DC, Bill Gates was injecting us with a microchip through a syringe, and JD Vance had sex with a couch.

Depends on what outlet you were watching to determine what the "subjective facts" are. "Facts" were presented that the moon landing was faked, 9-11 was a government conspiracy, the earth is flat, and climate change is a hoax/scientific fact.

There are no Cronkites anymore--he literally changed world history when he told the American public on TV that the US was in a "stalemate" and the Viet Nam War was not winnable. We listened--because we knew he was not in it for the ratings. That is in no-way the case today.

Who is there now?

We cannot have an honest debate if we cannot agree on the facts. Eyes on the screen=revenue.

That which true is factual. That which is not true but which one asserts is true, is not factual. It is a falsehood, no matter how much you believe otherwise. Facts are facts, no matter how much you deny them, no matter how much your faith or politicians tell you otherwise, no matter how inconvenient or upsetting they may be. The facts don't care whether we agree on them or not. The facts are truth! Everything else is fantasy, opinions, falsehoods, lies.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

That which true is factual. That which is not true but which one asserts is true, is not factual. It is a falsehood, no matter how much you believe otherwise. Facts are facts, no matter how much you deny them, no matter how much your faith or politicians tell you otherwise, no matter how inconvenient or upsetting they may be. The facts don't care whether we agree on them or not. The facts are truth! Everything else is fantasy, opinions, falsehoods, lies.

Facts are different than theories. These cover a lot of ground.


You can double check what are facts using the internet rather easily. Theories are a lot harder but I have found very few facts which negate the theory of global warming.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Being a scuba diver, I can tell you first hand that the dying of coral reefs is very real, and extremely saddening : (

While one person's observation is interesting, data collected from many divers -- and all systematically plotted over time -- tells a different story. Find out more at the Weather Club -- and why corals love global warming and increasing CO2.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by sounding

While one person's observation is interesting, data collected from many divers -- and all systematically plotted over time -- tells a different story. Find out more at the Weather Club -- and why corals love global warming and increasing CO2.

Do research. So many of these graph posts are malarkey.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Facts are different than theories. These cover a lot of ground.


You can double check what are facts using the internet rather easily. Theories are a lot harder but I have found very few facts which negate the theory of global warming.

Not hard at all. You just have to pick them out from the avalanche of nonsense promoting the myth of anthropogenic global warming.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Facts are different than theories. These cover a lot of ground.


You can double check what are facts using the internet rather easily. Theories are a lot harder but I have found very few facts which negate the theory of global warming.

Global warming is not a theory - it's reality - it's been warming and cooling via many cycles for billions of years. We are currently under the influence of warming and cooling cycles, but the net result of those cycles is a very slow warming trend as we continue to thaw out from the Little Ice Age ... which is expected to continue for about another 100 years or so. Find out why at the Weather Club ... The Villages Weather Club

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not hard at all. You just have to pick them out from the avalanche of nonsense promoting the myth of anthropogenic global warming.

Sounds like there is little, possibly questionable, evidence sprinkled amongst a mountain of factual evidence of anthropogenic global warming.
We (humans) didn’t start global warming, but we absolutely have contributed to it. We most certainly have done nothing to hold it back.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Sounds like there is little, possibly questionable, evidence sprinkled amongst a mountain of factual evidence of anthropogenic global warming.
We (humans) didn’t start global warming, but we absolutely have contributed to it. We most certainly have done nothing to hold it back.

Claims about man-made global warming are fun to make up ... but actual data is much better. So ... how much did man-made CO2 warm the earth last year?

[Pballer]

Originally Posted by bmcgowan13

Amen to that!

Roger Ailes was truly brilliant. He was an amazing TV pioneer and cashed in. I truly respect him for that. He was the media consultant for Richard Nixon/Ronald Regan. After the Nixon/Kennedy debates he was a visionary who realized that television was indeed the future. He saw a thirst for an outlet that told people what they wanted to hear and he created it. He was the Henry Ford of targeted programming.

With the advent of the internet *everyone* can now site-surf and find the outlet/web site that confirms their already existing opinion and they head to the trough to feed. Nobody needs to hear the opposite opinion--we can so easily migrate to the source (MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, PBS) that confirms/validates our existing premise--it is always reassuring to know that we are always correct.

All these other web/news sources are trying to mimic Ailes--and they are decades behind him and sloppily trying to catch up. He was the Lucy Arnez of opinion /commentary/news content....

Back in the 60's he saw the future. Well done Mr. Ailes--well done.

Mainstream media certainly has a lot of catching up to do with Ailes. Fox "News" had agreed to pay Dominion Voting Systems $787,000,000 to settle a defamation lawsuit concerning all the lies Fox promoted against them during the 2020 election. Fox promoted these lies in order not to lose viewers who only watch "news" outlets that reinforce their beliefs.