[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Thank the hyperventilating sign-wavers you didn't die of skin cancer. 🙂🙂😉

Except that skin cancer rates have skyrocketed over the past decade...

Care to explain that phenomena?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

"Climate change" is not synonymous with "global warming" or "man-made CO2." It's like asking if the reason flowers grow in flower beds is because people buy fertilizer.

If we hadn't polluted the air. If we hadn't cut down forests. If we hadn't used the land for toxic waste. If we hadn't drilled thousands of miles worth of holes in the planet. If we hadn't replaced pristine natural reserves with skyscrapers and parking lots and commercial areas. If we hadn't dumped garbage in our water sources...

then the climate change would have still happened, but not as quickly. Glaciers melt. That's a natural part of climate change. But they're melting quicker now, than they have ever in the current incarnation of the existence of humans as homo sapien sapien.

The Age of Agriculture created pockets of needy soil that hadn't previously existed, which required water, which meant depleting local water sources, which meant needing to create chemical methods of growing to preserve water, which then attracted more pests, which needed more pesticide, which polluted the air, water, and land, which killed animals, which caused harm to the ecosystem and food chain, which led to dead critters, which led to decay, which composts and becomes heated, which seeps into water sources, which erodes the oceans, and so on and so forth.

The Bronze Age contributed its own death punch to the planet. Didn't kill it, but gave it a shake. The Iron Age did as well.

Throughout human history, we have continued to leech from the planet that sustains us, use it up, and burn it, pollute it, evaporate it, or otherwise consume it. Climate change is NOT the result of that, but it is AFFECTED by that.

You don't have to like it. And we can't stop it. Even if we were to slow it down /now/ we would likely not see the results of that slow-down in our lifetime, or our grandchildren's lifetimes.

If only Joni Mitchell had written "Big Yellow Taxi" a hundred years earlier...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The stupidity of my fellow humans never ceases to amaze me.

I say the same thing every time I log on to ToTV...

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

"something we can do" .........I must have written 50 posts saying that buying Electric vehicles and bikes are the MAIN thing that people can do. Increased populations driving gasoline vehicles worldwide are the problem. The problem is so bad that the US government should pay 80% of a new Electric vehicle, but that won't happen. Because it is so much easier to ignore the problem and the OIL and GAS industry makes MEGA PROFITS.

Who makes more on gallon of gas? Not the big bad oil companies.

not my words

Quote :

“According to most information, the government typically makes more money per gallon of gas than oil companies, primarily due to the significant amount of taxes collected on gasoline through federal and state gas taxes, which often exceed the profit margin of oil companies per gallon.

So there you’re theory on who makes big profits…

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The melting of glaciers in Antarctica could uncover a lot of volcanoes in about 50 years.

But the melting of the (up to) two mile thick glaciers that covered most of North America, exposing some of the most fertile farmland in the world was a good thing, right?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I believe that I would bet on A. I. when it comes to the role that CO2 plays in Global Warming.

Even though it uses "Goobles of energy"? Not very energy efficient if you ask me...

[SoCalGal]

Originally Posted by sounding

Find out why Jan 13 at 10 AM at the Savannah for a talk called "Florida Weather 101" for the Civil Discourse Club.

Oh, please. Stop it.

[SoCalGal]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Santa Ana winds aren't "caused by" climate change. This weather phenomena has been part of the ecosystem for at least the last 5000 years. What's "caused by" climate change is the increased range, severity, and frequency. But this wind pattern is not new, and dates back to the Bronze Age.

I've lived practically in the lap of the Santa Ana winds for 45 years. There has never been a winter/spring that the Santa Ana winds haven't rattled the windows and blown the furniture off the patio.

[SoCalGal]

Originally Posted by ithos

Any field of academic study that blacklists and fires scientists that have contrary views is corrupted and can not be taken seriously.

Same thing in medicine.

[SoCalGal]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

"something we can do" .........I must have written 50 posts saying that buying electric vehicles and bikes is the MAIN thing that people can do

Gotta upgrade America's power grid first. The current condition of our power grid cannot support millions more EVs.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

And look how many people just had to jump in and add to the post stirring with the same old tired arguments...

Such fun! All the yapping and zero actual effect on real world problems, positive or negative. Some are correct, while others only believe they are. We all get a cardio workout tapping our keyboards. At least we are aren't bored. 🙂😉