Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2284723)

WHAT climate crisis. How much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth last year? It must be zero because there's never an answer. Silence is golden.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284724)

Wow----ONE hot year out of the last 4 million----yep, I'd go with that as scientific evidence :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284780)

That certainly MAY be true. I don't really know or CARE. What i DO know is that 2023 was the HOTTEST on recorded history and I notice that the naysayers about climate DANCE AROUND that fact. Facts have a way of NOT lying.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284783)

To the question of what climate change, I would say the one that is evident by the FACT that 2023 was the hottest on record and so was the last 10 years.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2284790)

So what ... what's "man" got to do with that?

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2284730)

Just 95% believe? During the Little Ice Age 100% of the scientists believed witches caused global cooling. "Beliefs" support religions. Data supports science. So let's try some data ... how much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth last year ... ?

Originally Posted by Donegalkid (Post 2284670)

Ha. Someone can do research.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284795)

Data......2023 was the warmest in recorded history! And the last 10 years have been rapidly rising in heat and real climate scientists are VERY worried. Also we have rapid species extinction, coral reefs dying, and glaciers in Antarctica falling into the sea. And we also have worldwide sea level RISE. No one can ignore those PROBLEMS. Doctors have found evidence of increased crime and decreased lifespan due to HEAT rise, also childhood ASTHMA.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284796)

Man produces CO2 like in automobile which rise and for a layer that reflects HEAT back to earth. It is all discussed in Climate science literature.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284707)

OK so some people believe that Global Warming is NOT caused by mankind. But, I believe that I read that 95% of climate scientists believe that GW IS caused by MAN (AND SPECIFICALLY CO2 pollution). No one is disagreeing that throughout long, LONG term geological time there has been warming and cooling centuries of time. There are fossils of equatorial plants buried in the Arctic zone. I am arguing and repeating climate scientists that are talking about THIS century and really about the last 7 years when climate change has caused increasingly warmer years WORLDWIDE (caused by man). Now we are at the end of 2023 which has been RECORDED as the HOTTEST in recorded history (not geological time, but right now time). No one can deny that 2023 was the record HOTTEST year. No one, no way , no how. That is just what it is ........and we MUST live with that fact and find a SOLUTION. And a part (a subset) of the problem is all of the people scurrying northward from the equator towards and into the US. They are driven northward by the HEAT, which we all know we felt right here in TV land in the summer, which was just part of the WORLDWIDE record HEAT of 2023. Dr Vin Gupta was just on TV this morning going over the BAD HEALTH effects of the 2023 record HEAT (PLEASE GOOGLE THAT)

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284780)

That certainly MAY be true. I don't really know or CARE. What i DO know is that 2023 was the HOTTEST on recorded history and I notice that the naysayers about climate DANCE AROUND that fact. Facts have a way of NOT lying.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284783)

To the question of what climate change, I would say the one that is evident by the FACT that 2023 was the hottest on record and so was the last 10 years.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284795)

Data......2023 was the warmest in recorded history! And the last 10 years have been rapidly rising in heat and real climate scientists are VERY worried. Also we have rapid species extinction, coral reefs dying, and glaciers in Antarctica falling into the sea. And we also have worldwide sea level RISE. No one can ignore those PROBLEMS. Doctors have found evidence of increased crime and decreased lifespan due to HEAT rise, also childhood ASTHMA.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284796)

Man produces CO2 like in automobile which rise and for a layer that reflects HEAT back to earth. It is all discussed in Climate science literature.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284724)

Wow----ONE hot year out of the last 4 million----yep, I'd go with that as scientific evidence :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284910)

Wait and see. My New Years prediction is that 2024 is HOTTER than 2023. It is a trend that we will be able to FEEL this summer. Florida is VERY vulnerable to the LARGER hurricanes due to the hotter ocean temperatures. The Florida coastline has to deal with the rising ocean levels due to Antarctica ice melting and large icebergs forming. Florida is TRYING to regrow its coral reefs that are badly damaged. The HEAT causes greater crime and displacement northward of South American population. We can NOT solve a problem until we recognize THAT problem.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284910)

Wait and see. My New Years prediction is that 2024 is HOTTER than 2023. It is a trend that we will be able to FEEL this summer. Florida is VERY vulnerable to the LARGER hurricanes due to the hotter ocean temperatures. The Florida coastline has to deal with the rising ocean levels due to Antarctica ice melting and large icebergs forming. Florida is TRYING to regrow its coral reefs that are badly damaged. The HEAT causes greater crime and displacement northward of South American population. We can NOT solve a problem until we recognize THAT problem.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284906)

Trivia question: Does anybody know the name of the musical that featured the song "Johnny One Note"?

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284917)

There are a lot of problems in our world in 2023, 2024. I DO tend to focus on the one that is UNDER-REPORTED by the MEDIA. And it is the ONE problem that underlays MANY other problems that are more visible to people.
.........The is a principle in debates........if you can't attack the logic of the debater, then attack them personally in some trivial way.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284916)

Is that a F sharp or an E flat??????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284917)

There are a lot of problems in our world in 2023, 2024. I DO tend to focus on the one that is UNDER-REPORTED by the MEDIA. And it is the ONE problem that underlays MANY other problems that are more visible to people.
.........The is a principle in debates........if you can't attack the logic of the debater, then attack them personally in some trivial way.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2284922)

Psst. Choose different notes. Actually, E is what F flat would be.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284920)

The only thing underreported by the media relative to this thread is that man-made global warming is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the world.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2284926)

I always thought you were just kidding. Pushing people's buttons. Do you REALLY not know that humankind IS having a great negative effect on Earth's climate. Um, um, um?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284925)

So, you think F sharp and E flat are the same notes??? Might explain the imminent catastrophic global warming posts :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2284700)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1HggcfnHpo

On your bicycle again I see...

Originally Posted by Decadeofdave (Post 2284703)

Sorry I thought the article was some kind of equation related to Howard Schwartz's
heirs in the villages.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284780)

That certainly MAY be true. I don't really know or CARE. What i DO know is that 2023 was the HOTTEST on recorded history and I notice that the naysayers about climate DANCE AROUND that fact. Facts have a way of NOT lying.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284798)

I seriously doubt that witches could agree 100 % on anything?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284906)

Trivia question: Does anybody know the name of the musical that featured the song "Johnny One Note"?

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284917)

There are a lot of problems in our world in 2023, 2024. I DO tend to focus on the one that is UNDER-REPORTED by the MEDIA. And it is the ONE problem that underlays MANY other problems that are more visible to people.
.........The is a principle in debates........if you can't attack the logic of the debater, then attack them personally in some trivial way.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284690)

The media is mostly ignoring the fact that there IS a "climate crisis". 2023 is the HOTTEST on record. And the last 7 years have been getting increasingly HOTTER. This is NOT hearsay, theory, or hypothesis. It IS actual temperature MEASUREMENTS all over the Earth. The US and other nations should be working on how to COMBAT this warming, NOT listening to naysayers. NOT debating which overseas war the US should support. Man is losing it's war with mother nature of our Earth. People have trouble seeing Global Warming because it happens SLOWLY like a frog in a slowly boiling pan of water. We NEED solutions, not naysayers.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284783)

To the question of what climate change, I would say the one that is evident by the FACT that 2023 was the hottest on record and so was the last 10 years.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284916)

Is that a F sharp or an E flat??????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284920)

The only thing underreported by the media relative to this thread is that man-made global warming is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the world.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2283859)

This is the defining equation regarding greenhouse gas physics. It is used by all IPCC climate modules -- and yet the media never mentions it -- especially the CO2 saturation aspect. Find out why: Jan 21, 1:30 PM, Laurel Manor.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284986)

I am merely the messenger. It is NOT a good idea to "shoot the messenger". It is generally better to argue against the MESSAGE. We all seem to be in general agreement that 2023 was the HOTTEST in recorded history........so I can conclude that my work is done here. .................

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284989)

But we just agreed that 2023 was the WARMEST IN HISTORY. And by extension that the last 10 years grew increasingly HOT up to 2023.

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2285005)

Well, according to NASA the warmest since 1880, when global records began.

NASA Announces Summer 2023 Hottest on Record - NASA

Since the earth is 4.5 billion year old, 143 is a rounding error.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284986)

I am merely the messenger. It is NOT a good idea to "shoot the messenger". It is generally better to argue against the MESSAGE. We all seem to be in general agreement that 2023 was the HOTTEST in recorded history........so I can conclude that my work is done here. That is the main point that I have been trying to make. We all need to move on to solutions that will bring the global heating back DOWN. And somehow stop the hoards of people entering the US as they try to escape the HEAT conditions in their former countries.
......The 1st world countries are to blame for CAUSING this Global RUNAWAY HEAT threat and they are paying the price for their greed and thoughtlessness with UNWANTED migration from South to North. That is a recent (20 year) phenomenon which has nothing to do with 1,000 year intervals of geological time. This is a BIG right-NOW problem. The only thing that I am doing is trying NOT to ignore it, like MANY are doing.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284986)

I am merely the messenger. It is NOT a good idea to "shoot the messenger". It is generally better to argue against the MESSAGE. We all seem to be in general agreement that 2023 was the HOTTEST in recorded history........so I can conclude that my work is done here. That is the main point that I have been trying to make. We all need to move on to solutions that will bring the global heating back DOWN. And somehow stop the hoards of people entering the US as they try to escape the HEAT conditions in their former countries.
......The 1st world countries are to blame for CAUSING this Global RUNAWAY HEAT threat and they are paying the price for their greed and thoughtlessness with UNWANTED migration from South to North. That is a recent (20 year) phenomenon which has nothing to do with 1,000 year intervals of geological time. This is a BIG right-NOW problem. The only thing that I am doing is trying NOT to ignore it, like MANY are doing.