Actually, I am a pretty normal, well adjusted JOE that has enjoyed the subject of Science since high school science class. Climate Change is the biggest LONG TERM problem faced by the whole WORLD. It is easy to ignore because it has happened S-L-O-W-L-Y in the PAST. But, that is HISTORY, it is happening RAPIDLY in the past 10 years. Interesting, I just heard on TV that scientists actually warned about this happening in the 1950s and some of the scientists worked in the OIL industry. Also, I heard that 2023 was the HOTTEST YEAR on the planet for the last 100,000 years! Remember this summer when the Mississippi River practically dried up and that HAD for bring gasoline prices and prices for other goods up. So, global warming has already affect all of the Villagers. There is some good news because wind and solar farms are now the lowest cost for electrical energy, and that cost is decreasing. Atomic ENERGY produced by NEWER methods is likely only about ten years away. I don't mind debate, but I have refrained from engaging in ANY personal attacks. PLEASE just debate, NOT insult!

OK, let me get this straight........NASA FABRICATES data, so I should believe the graphs that you present OVER NASA.

My personality is insignificant compared to the subject of Global Warming. Please debate the subject. Why play..... insult the debater?

Again, according to NASA, they started keeping global records since 1880, 143 years.
The earth has been around for 4.5 billion years
143/4.5 billion has so many leading zeros, it’s a rounding error.

Humans have managed to warm up the earth in quite a short time due to pollution from factories, cars, buses, trucks, ships, etc. And maybe cows and other animals.

Also golf carts.

You can believe the altered data -- or the observed data. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coh52TUZcZM

Sorry Jimjamuser, insult is one of their favorite tools, along with belittling, denying, claiming debunking, deflection (well what about blah blah), presentation "alternative facts" (misinformation) to fool the ---, well you get the idea. Like talking to a flat earthen while sitting in the middle of the great plains, they won't believe the world is round no matter what. The only alternative would be to shoot them into space to experience the truth for themselves. Even then, some would think they had been tricked because their minds cannot conceive the truth.
Keep up the good work. Happy Holidays!

Especially here in the Villages with the gas model golf carts. Mine only goes, at best, 20-22 MPH. And that is on a steep incline. Governor only allows me to go 19.9 MPH. Saves the engine according to the dealer.

I had one golf cart zip past me going around 40 and doing it very loudly with what sounded like a motorcycle engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1HggcfnHpo

Watch this video you’ll understand what dealing with.

Dinosaur farts.
 

Scientists Estimate Dinosaurs Passed Enough Gas To Warm Up The Planet : The Two-Way : NPR

I have been wondering about these gaseous beasts.

But, you still drive car, eat meat, ride on planes, trains, buses, buy products that was trucked All except work in factory. IMO If I was going to blame some humans it would be lawyers.

Yes! Yes! Yes! And still the (willfully) blind refuse to see!

I estimate it didn’t. :spoken:

LOL!! You chose the easy target.

Yes, you would think that it would be basic and easy for the local Police to catch speed-altered golf carts - just by the sound. And the fines would have 2 advantages - making CART speed uniform and putting money back into the hands of the Police Department to fund more Policing.

As person with law degree he knows that’s not how law works. :popcorn:

WRONG! He is an intelligent individual who understands what most educated and intelligent people worldwide know to be true. I do not for one second believe he has ever forcibly "rammed" anything down your, or anyone else's, throat. He, like many others, speak out when they see misinformation being passed masquerading as truth by those who, for whatever personal reason, deny that humanity, all 8Billion plus, through all our damaging transformation of our planet, bear no responsibility for the fact of global warming. You can choose to accept or not. You can choose to read his comments or not. It's up to you.

Mine is from the U of MN (Class of 1989). Which is a very long time ago. And most of those courses were about business law like the Uniform Commercial Code | Uniform Commercial Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute.

Even for you, that is a bizarre claim. Please show us the average temperature in the year 84,731 BC, or 56,892 BC, or 16,783 BC or even better yet, just 1343 AD. So, in short, 2023 MAY have been the hottest year in the last 100 or so, the other 99,900 years of your claim are dismissed.

Describing, not insulting :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Or, maybe it was just warming anyway----just as it has done at least a dozen times in the last 4.5 million years.

If cars drove themselves and followed the safety and traffic laws, there would (ideally) be no accidents caused by speeders, running of lights, distracted, drunk, or even blind drivers. Few, if any, tickets. Tons of fuel would be saved and emissions lowered dramatically. Roadrage would be a thing of the past. And, if a passenger did get upset, the AI driver could calm them with gas.

But we are off track,

Now! Back to our regularly scheduled climate talk.

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Timeline of temperature and pressure measurement technology - Wikipedia

Kind of hard to discuss weather data before 1900 or so.

Unless you are talking about samples from ice and trees. https://www.scienceabc.com/eyeopener...years-ago.html

Google is your friend, too. If those particular years are of some special interest to you, then I'm sure you can check them yourself.

Nah! It's the people and their stuff and alllll the crazy thing they do without seeing the long term (now short term) consequences.

You never debate. You simply repeat the same mantra over and over and over again...

All while ignoring any contradictory evidence...

Actually it was one hundred and TWENTY thousand years. I heard and saw it on today's Jake Tapper CNN show at around 4 minutes into his program. He had a WHOLE hour show about the 2023 HEAT and associated Global Warming. He had several climate scientists that said that it MAY (?) NOT yet be too late to prevent complete disaster to the earth and the human race. So, that IS the SOURCE of my statement - a legitimate news source, not some conspiracy network.

I see a new movie coming out... "Jurassic Fart"...

That's a good one! Wait... You're serious?

You think CNN (The Communist News Network) is a legitimate news source???? Hmmmmm......

You mean all the OTHER people and their stuff and alllll the crazy things they do...

YOU, otoh, don't have any "stuff" and YOU are the one who acts completely rationally...

Oh, it was Jake Tapper... The Nobel Winning Climatologist...

Why didn't you say so... Jake would never make things up...

There is a very SIMPLE logic to prove that recent Global Warming is man-made. The earth now has 8 billion people in it and it is only fairly recently (like 30 years) that the earth has made it to that many people. The US population when most of us were born was about 100,000,000 people - now it is over 3 times as much. And India and other 3rd world countries have increased more than the US. These population increases have increased the need for more electricity power plants, more automobiles, more food, and basically MORE everything. Which means more CO2 pollution.
........The TV show with Jake Tapper pointed out that countries in America and Europe could be crushed and become dis-functional as millions may end up moving Northward - that is unprecedented. Another problem for India is that it is fairly flat and the ocean could take over some parts.

Half right---that was "simple", but "logic" had nothing to do with it.

Now we have degenerated the conversation back to name calling. I would bet that a survey made across the US would come up with 50 to 70% of the people saying that CNN is a legitimate News Network. Personally, I can NOT respect anyone that can NOT say that CNN is a respected News Network. If most people say that CNN is NOT legitimate, that would tell me, that the American experience is OVER. And I need to move to Australia.

Bon Voyage!!!!!

But I really hope you are wrong about the climate. Santa and his elves will be real unhappy if the North Pole turns into a rain forest :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Not "name calling"----accurate description.

I do not think you would have been in a safe Jurassic Park with some gassy brontosauri.