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Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Logically speaking, why would ANYONE believe that worldwide - glaciers are increasing? Last July was the warmest in RECORDED history and that trend is predicted by close to 100 % of all scientists to continue for the next 8 years. And it is part of MAN-MADE Global Warming. This can be proved by the increase in the ocean level worldwide that has gone up rapidly in the last few years. Also related is the CO2 increase both the oceans and in the upper atmosphere. This logically has happened because the RAPID population increase worldwide has caused humans to cut down forests and the Amazon Rain Forest, which in years past could absorb any extra CO2. And logically most CO2 production is from Internal Combustion automobile engines.

Glacier info ....

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fishon

If the goal is depopulation, show your commitment by leading the way and being an example to others.
By and by, I’ll let you know if it works.

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[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Logically speaking, there are about 130,000 glaciers on Earth. Thousands are growing, thousands are melting. Overall, right now, I suspect that the net is more melting, and that will continue for another 20,000 years or so. After all, it started 20,000 years ago. But wait---there weren't any internal combustion engines 20,000 years ago. And now you're up to claiming 100% of scientists. Hey, I'm a scientist and I dissent, so there goes 100%.

As far as CO2 goes, atmospheric levels appear to have increased from 300 ppm to 400 ppm over the last century or so. Carbon emissions? Maybe, but there are many possible causes. After all, there have been times when Earth's CO2 in the atmosphere has exceeded 4,000 ppm, and some of those periods were ice ages.

So, once again, this ICE theme is just more useless noise, like a fly buzzing.

Once again, it is nice to have a gentleman's debate that is NOT oozing snark.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Logically speaking, there are about 130,000 glaciers on Earth. Thousands are growing, thousands are melting. Overall, right now, I suspect that the net is more melting, and that will continue for another 20,000 years or so. After all, it started 20,000 years ago. But wait---there weren't any internal combustion engines 20,000 years ago. And now you're up to claiming 100% of scientists. Hey, I'm a scientist and I dissent, so there goes 100%.

As far as CO2 goes, atmospheric levels appear to have increased from 300 ppm to 400 ppm over the last century or so. Carbon emissions? Maybe, but there are many possible causes. After all, there have been times when Earth's CO2 in the atmosphere has exceeded 4,000 ppm, and some of those periods were ice ages.

So, once again, this ICE theme is just more useless noise, like a fly buzzing.

As far as glaciers go, those thousands that are growing LOGICALLY must have had a hard time GROWING when WORLDWIDE this July was the WARMEST in recorded temperatures. Those poor little glaciers must have had to try so very hard to grow in JULY. And now along comes August, which seems pretty warm to me. And I have the sweaty shirts to prove it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Logically speaking, there are about 130,000 glaciers on Earth. Thousands are growing, thousands are melting. Overall, right now, I suspect that the net is more melting, and that will continue for another 20,000 years or so. After all, it started 20,000 years ago. But wait---there weren't any internal combustion engines 20,000 years ago. And now you're up to claiming 100% of scientists. Hey, I'm a scientist and I dissent, so there goes 100%.

As far as CO2 goes, atmospheric levels appear to have increased from 300 ppm to 400 ppm over the last century or so. Carbon emissions? Maybe, but there are many possible causes. After all, there have been times when Earth's CO2 in the atmosphere has exceeded 4,000 ppm, and some of those periods were ice ages.

So, once again, this ICE theme is just more useless noise, like a fly buzzing.

Just looked up the %s for agreement of scientists about Global Warming. nationalacademies.org says that 97% agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change. The Cornell Chronicle says that 99.9 % of studies agree.......humans cause Climate Change. NASA says 97 %.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Just looked up the %s for agreement of scientists about Global Warming. nationalacademies.org says that 97% agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change. The Cornell Chronicle says that 99.9 % of studies agree.......humans cause Climate Change. NASA says 97 %.

The thing that amazes me is that folks you think should be understanding and accept the truth for what it is, argue against it the way they do. I suspect that many of those folks know what is happening and believe it. But I also think that they see global warming as a partisan issue (which it definitely is not), and they just can't make themselves be seen changing positions.

[merrymini]

The Holocene period, which we live in, began about 12,000 years ago and began human domination of the planet, specifically because seasons became predictable and allowed for farming, more food, more people. We are not causing global warming but are probably adding to it. The Holocene began without human interference and will probably end without it. No one knows how long it will continue before the next major climate change. Live it up while you can. I would be more concerned with the crazies that have nuclear bombs that can wipe us off the face of the planet first.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by merrymini

The Holocene period, which we live in, began about 12,000 years ago and began human domination of the planet, specifically because seasons became predictable and allowed for farming, more food, more people. We are not causing global warming but are probably adding to it. The Holocene began without human interference and will probably end without it. No one knows how long it will continue before the next major climate change. Live it up while you can. I would be more concerned with the crazies that have nuclear bombs that can wipe us off the face of the planet first.

So very true! The really hard to believe part is that no one has proposed spending $131 TRILLION to keep nukes away from the "crazies", like they have for fighting so called "global warming"

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

So very true! The really hard to believe part is that no one has proposed spending $131 TRILLION to keep nukes away from the "crazies", like they have for fighting so called "global warming"

That would be its own thread. Maybe start one? I would be interested in how you would propose to keep the nukes from the "crazies", seeing as how the "crazies" already have them and would likely use them before they lose them. Certainly deserving of its own thread.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Just looked up the %s for agreement of scientists about Global Warming. nationalacademies.org says that 97% agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change. The Cornell Chronicle says that 99.9 % of studies agree.......humans cause Climate Change. NASA says 97 %.

Many people ignore the scientific facts and have already made up their mind what they believe.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

The thing that amazes me is that folks you think should be understanding and accept the truth for what it is, argue against it the way they do. I suspect that many of those folks know what is happening and believe it. But I also think that they see global warming as a partisan issue (which it definitely is not), and they just can't make themselves be seen changing positions.

That IS possible to a certain extent. It's possible that some have stock in fossil fuels or some related industry. But, an opinion on a small talk forum like this will NOT move any stocks. I find that most who disagree with me are doing it in a conscientious manner and they REALLY believe (against the 97 NASA scientists) that man-made global warming does NOT exist.
........there is also the other problem of NOT just disagreeing, but the attempt to drown out anyone of opposite opinion in a sea of snark.

[Taltarzac725]

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[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That IS possible to a certain extent. It's possible that some have stock in fossil fuels or some related industry. But, an opinion on a small talk forum like this will NOT move any stocks. I find that most who disagree with me are doing it in a conscientious manner and they REALLY believe (against the 97 NASA scientists) that man-made global warming does NOT exist.
........there is also the other problem of NOT just disagreeing, but the attempt to drown out anyone of opposite opinion in a sea of snark.

I actually do have a shared ownership of oil land with wells, so it is in my financial interest to pump and sell oil. But I get the truth of man's interference with nature and our, dare I say "contributions", to global warming. It is painfully obvious (or should be) to any thinking and caring person taking a look at our poor planet what we have done, and are continuing to do. I feel like echoing the words of Jesus on the cross, "PITY THEM, FATHER, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO".

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

I actually do have a shared ownership of oil land with wells, so it is in my financial interest to pump and sell oil. But I get the truth of man's interference with nature and our, dare I say "contributions", to global warming. It is painfully obvious (or should be) to any thinking and caring person taking a look at our poor planet what we have done, and are continuing to do. I feel like echoing the words of Jesus on the cross, "PITY THEM, FATHER, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO".

Actually, at the risk of committing blasphemy, I would paraphrase Jesus to describe the misguided true believer climate alarmists to read: "FORGIVE THEM FATHER FOR THEY KNOW NOT. PERIOD."

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Actually, at the risk of committing blasphemy, I would paraphrase Jesus to describe the misguided true believer climate alarmists to read: "FORGIVE THEM FATHER FOR THEY KNOW NOT. PERIOD."

Jesus if he were actually divine would be able to see the past, present and future. All of it. As would God.

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Jesus WEPT. This would probably be the fitting line for man's destruction of the Garden of Eden.