[Fastskiguy]

37 billion metric tons of Co2 dumped into the atmosphere every year just can't be a good thing over time. I'm sure we can all agree on that. Give a hoot, don't pollute!

Joe

Annual CO2 emissions worldwide 1940-2021 | Statista

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Originally Posted by kkingston57

Hard to argue facts. Weather is definitely getting crazy 26 inches in Fort Lauderdale most of which came down in 7 hours. Wait till the impending flooding in California when the 70 feet of snow melts and none of that snow is headed to the worst affected area, Lake Mead and Lake Powell.

"Worst affected" is better phrased as "man affected" and not climate affected. 1. To begin with, this is the "Desert" Southwest. 2. Those lakes are man-made ... take away the lakes and the people ... and drought problem is gone. 3. Or ... why would anyone want to have nice green lawns in a climatologically designated "desert" region? 4. See the tiny blip on the far right side of the diagram ...that's the so-called modern day mega-drought ...

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[QUOTE=Fastskiguy;2207976]37 billion metric tons of Co2 dumped into the atmosphere every year just can't be a good thing over time. I'm sure we can all agree on that. Give a hoot, don't pollute!

Joe

CO2 is not a pollutant. More importantly it is plant food, and more is better, because we are in a CO2 famine. Learn more 10 AM, April 17, Colony Cottage ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnQo8l-BHc

[rsibole]

The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from the Consulate at Bergen, Norway.

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard of temperatures in the Arctic zone.


Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.

Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.

Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.


Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coast cities uninhabitable.

I must apologize. I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2 , 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post 100-years ago. This must have been caused by the Model T Ford's emissions or possibly from horse and cattle farts.

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by sounding

If it's more unpredictable, then our weather models are getting worse -- and in some ways they are -- as the Monday talk will show. But, weather is not more extreme. What's more extreme is media alarmism and everyone is falling for it. Today's climate is mild compared to the past ...

- 1924: 148 died in a tornado outbreak.
- 1927: 500 died in a Mississippi flood.
- 1913: Death Valley temperature hit world record high of 134 F.
- 1972: Loma, Montana, had a 24-hour temperature change of 103 F.
- 1977: Measurable snow in Miami.
- There are hundreds more examples of more extreme past weather events.
- Plus, we're in a 7-year cooling trend.

You have data that shows the seven-year cooling trend? All the scientific literature I've seen does not show this. In fact, it's just the opposite unless you don't believe the New York Times:

Earth’s Last 8 Years Were the Hottest on Record - The New York Times

That story is based on data from NASA and the European Union’s Copernicus Climate Change Service.

Those organizations have no reason to fake their information while there are a lot of Climate Change denier groups funded by fossil fuel companies and others who stand to lose money if the necessary changes are made to combat it.

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

Why do people denigrate scientists in an effort to ignore the reality of Climate Change? Guess it makes you feel better that you can go on living life as in the past. It is changing, gradually, but it is getting worse. All you need to do is watch the Weather Channel and stop making excuses or finding different opinions to oppose it. Organizations like NASA are composed of scientists whose life work is to study it. Are you going to believe some politician or academic with a Ph.D. in Marketing being paid to distort the truth?

Stop being irrational and listen to what the scientists are telling us.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon

You have data that shows the seven-year cooling trend? All the scientific literature I've seen does not show this. In fact, it's just the opposite unless you don't believe the New York Times:

Earth’s Last 8 Years Were the Hottest on Record - The New York Times

That story is based on data from NASA and the European Union’s Copernicus Climate Change Service.

Those organizations have no reason to fake their information while there are a lot of Climate Change denier groups funded by fossil fuel companies and others who stand to lose money if the necessary changes are made to combat it.

He has found a denier group/individual who cherry-picks a starting point that yields a cooling trend. There have been many posts about this in other threads. Here is just one.

At this point I honestly think he is just trolling in order to drum up attendance for his talks.

[Fastskiguy]

[QUOTE=sounding;2207983]

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy

37 billion metric tons of Co2 dumped into the atmosphere every year just can't be a good thing over time. I'm sure we can all agree on that. Give a hoot, don't pollute!

Joe

CO2 is not a pollutant. More importantly it is plant food, and more is better, because we are in a CO2 famine. Learn more 10 AM, April 17, Colony Cottage ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnQo8l-BHc

Surely you aren’t suggesting more CO2 would be better? Are you?

Joe

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon

You have data that shows the seven-year cooling trend? All the scientific literature I've seen does not show this. In fact, it's just the opposite unless you don't believe the New York Times:

Earth’s Last 8 Years Were the Hottest on Record - The New York Times

That story is based on data from NASA and the European Union’s Copernicus Climate Change Service.

Those organizations have no reason to fake their information while there are a lot of Climate Change denier groups funded by fossil fuel companies and others who stand to lose money if the necessary changes are made to combat it.

US government data proves everything I say. The 7-year cooling trend is seen via the NOAA surface & ocean temperature data and via the NASA satellite global UAH temperature data (on Roy Spencer website). See details at the Weather Club, or Apr 17 at 10 AM at Colony Cottage.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564

He has found a denier group/individual who cherry-picks a starting point that yields a cooling trend. There have been many posts about this in other threads. Here is just one.

At this point I honestly think he is just trolling in order to drum up attendance for his talks.

Here's the NASA UAH satellite data. You can plot it for yourself ... https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v...cdc_lt_6.0.txt

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Originally Posted by sounding

Surely you aren’t suggesting more CO2 would be better? Are you?

Joe

Absolutely, yes. Seeing is believing ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ8Ws8ZrleE

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by sounding

Here's the NASA UAH satellite data. You can plot it for yourself ... https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v...cdc_lt_6.0.txt

Short memory or just more trolling? That is exactly what I did and what we discussed in the thread that I linked to. That data, the data you choose to use, the data I did plot, clearly shows a continuous warming trend UNLESS you cherry-pick a starting point right around an abnormally warm year.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564

Short memory or just more trolling? That is exactly what I did and what we discussed in the thread that I linked to. That data, the data you choose to use, the data I did plot, clearly shows a continuous warming trend UNLESS you cherry-pick a starting point right around an abnormally warm year.

Cherry-picking claims don't answer the question. Regardless of the cherries -- there's an answer for everything. Why can't anyone say why we have been cooling for more than 7-years? NOAA and NASA data both show it -- it is real -- but no one wants to say why ... but at 10 AM on Apr 17 at Colony Cottage the Big Cherry will be revealed.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy

37 billion metric tons of Co2 dumped into the atmosphere every year just can't be a good thing over time. I'm sure we can all agree on that. Give a hoot, don't pollute!

Joe

Annual CO2 emissions worldwide 1940-2021 | Statista

Yeah, someone should tell Mother Nature to stop!

"What are the natural sources of CO2 emissions?

Yes, there are natural sources of atmospheric carbon dioxide, such as outgassing from the ocean, decomposing vegetation and other biomass, venting volcanoes, naturally occurring wildfires, and even belches from ruminant animals."

"Altogether the planet absorbs and emits about 100 billion tons of carbon dioxide through this natural cycle every year..."

[heron848]

Originally Posted by sounding

What's more extreme is media alarmism and everyone is falling for it.

Enough with the gratuitous hyperbole. Not EVERYONE is falling for it!
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