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Find out how Princeton University's Dr. Manabe got the Nobel Prize in Physics for creating the worst climate model ... at the Weather Club meeting on December 16 at 1:30 PM at the Bridgeport Rec. Center.

[blueash]

Somebody's got an agenda here. Of course a speaker at the Villages Weather Club would have greater insight into the value of Manabe's contributions to science than the Nobel committee, Princeton University, and many other academic and scientific organizations. Manabe was a leader in understanding what factors to consider in global climate looking at factors that had not been used in earlier work. If you want to actually read his papers on climate modeling a simple google scholar search finds them.

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What the climate models say they can do and what they actually do are two different things. If you look at the verification statistics, the Manabe model had the worst results ... in other words it is the hottest model and farthest from reality. The weather talk will explain how this happens. You'll also find out why the best climate model gets no media attention.

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Why would the creator of the climate model with the worst verification statistics be most honored?

[Road-Runner]

Originally Posted by sounding

Why would the creator of the climate model with the worst verification statistics be most honored?

You are kidding, right? The Nobel Prize is an extremely biased political organization, do a little research and you should see this as fact for yourself.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Road-Runner

You are kidding, right? The Nobel Prize is an extremely biased political organization, do a little research and you should see this as fact for yourself.

I think you are preaching to the converted!

[Stu from NYC]

Should be an interesting presentation and looking forward to hearing it.

[Koapaka]

Originally Posted by sounding

Why would the creator of the climate model with the worst verification statistics be most honored?

Because his BS fits the agenda??? Look people, one rogue volcano and all this crap is out the window....ever heard of dinosaurs? Just saying, the Good man upstairs has this all worked out, lets give him a little credit. Done good so far....

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Originally Posted by Koapaka

Because his BS fits the agenda??? Look people, one rogue volcano and all this crap is out the window....ever heard of dinosaurs? Just saying, the Good man upstairs has this all worked out, lets give him a little credit. Done good so far....

Is that the same Good man who sent the tornadoes to Kentucky? Is that the same Good man who sent us small pox and war and starvation and the Shoah? Is that the same Good man who kills children in their schools? Funny how you count on the Good man to have it all worked out when it isn't working out so well for so many people. Hey, I'll send you thoughts and prayers if it helps hurt any feelings I may have injured.

[ThirdOfFive]

That the same Nobel bunch that awarded Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize based on what he MIGHT do?

[blueash]

Originally Posted by sounding

Find out how Princeton University's Dr. Manabe got the Nobel Prize in Physics for creating the worst climate model ... at the Weather Club meeting on December 16 at 1:30 PM at the Bridgeport Rec. Center.

I'll try again as you don't seem to understand from my earlier post. I'm sure it is my fault for not being clearer. The Nobel Prize he received was NOT for creating the most accurate climate model. The Prize was for creating the IDEA of a climate model that took into consideration so many factors that no one had ever thought to use and combine.

If there were a prize for automobile design you would criticize Henry Ford because his design was not nearly as good as ones that followed. If there were a prize for printing you'd hate that Guttenberg got it as his press is garbage compared to what followed.

Manabe's climate modeling was revolutionary. It completely changed what was possible in the field and all later climatologists have built upon his pioneering work. That is why he was given the prize. So if you want to attack him because his 1960's model lacked the sophistication of later work, go ahead. Dr Manabe changed science.

You can educate yourself on how much he contributed, and learn some about the man HERE
The Man Who Predicted Climate Change | The New Yorker

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It doesn't matter how or when he created his modeling technique ... but it does matter that his latest IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) model has the worst verification statistics -- something the media refuses to acknowledge.

[Koapaka]

Originally Posted by blueash

Is that the same Good man who sent the tornadoes to Kentucky? Is that the same Good man who sent us small pox and war and starvation and the Shoah? Is that the same Good man who kills children in their schools? Funny how you count on the Good man to have it all worked out when it isn't working out so well for so many people. Hey, I'll send you thoughts and prayers if it helps hurt any feelings I may have injured.

OMG, you are a hoot.....God Bless.....(sure that will **** you off, to be blessed by the big guy upstairs).....I hate to break this to you, but people have been born, lived and died since the beginning of time...and will continue to do so, only from different stuff. Maybe COVID, maybe cancer, maybe some idiot in a golfcart driving home drunk on the multi modal pathway, but it crap happens and we all check into and out of this world on HIS schedule. Feel free to believe whatever floats your boat, but this is a FACT JACK!

[Stu from NYC]

Went to the presentation today and found it very interesting. Will do some reading to learn more.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by blueash

I'll try again as you don't seem to understand from my earlier post. I'm sure it is my fault for not being clearer. The Nobel Prize he received was NOT for creating the most accurate climate model. The Prize was for creating the IDEA of a climate model that took into consideration so many factors that no one had ever thought to use and combine.

If there were a prize for automobile design you would criticize Henry Ford because his design was not nearly as good as ones that followed. If there were a prize for printing you'd hate that Guttenberg got it as his press is garbage compared to what followed.

Manabe's climate modeling was revolutionary. It completely changed what was possible in the field and all later climatologists have built upon his pioneering work. That is why he was given the prize. So if you want to attack him because his 1960's model lacked the sophistication of later work, go ahead. Dr Manabe changed science.

You can educate yourself on how much he contributed, and learn some about the man HERE
The Man Who Predicted Climate Change | The New Yorker

Sorry, but giving a Nobel Prize for work on the bogus premise of climate change (due to man's activity) is like giving an engineering award to the designers of Chernobyl