[MikeVillages]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

How was the ride???

Have not been on an electric that rides as nice as the newer Yamaha's.

Thanks for the info.

For me, the ride was similar to my 2020 Yamaha quiet tech 2 EFI, two seats. The short wheelbase is very noticeable in both of them. The auto braking is too aggressive but he said they can adjust that. I'm new to golf carts. I went to the Summerfield store. Parking lot is too small but he said I can drive on the public road behind the store but only on that road. I drove on additional roads in the neighborhood to get a better experience.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by MikeVillages

For me, the ride was similar to my 2020 Yamaha quiet tech 2 EFI, two seats. .

[MikeVillages]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Maybe we should get a second opinion.

[Tvflguy]

Originally Posted by MikeVillages

I took a test drive today. The C2 is 2 seat, C4 is 4 seats. The acceleration was very quick, the top indicated speed I got was 21 mph. The auto braking was more aggressive than I liked but the salesman said they can adjust that. The included backup camera is useful. Seat Belts are included. A fob is better then a mechanical key imo.

The “sale" price was ~$14,000 + tax for the C2 but many things go on sale & maybe off then back on sale all the time so people feel pressure to buy. Accessories like fender lighting (a must have safety item in my opinion), side rain protection, ect are extra. We would consider it if we did not already have a golf cart but also feel new golf carts are overpriced.

I’m the OP. The C2 was the first version. Had some issues that were resolved in the updated C4. The C4 is not a four seat. The CD are 2 seaters as far as I know. So the latest version, C4 has a larger rear tub to fit 2 golf bags, the C2 was much smaller. Also some lighting and software was updated on the C4. And the next version is to have a tilt steering wheel, not needed IMO. Side rain protection … the sunbrella was included in the $13,900. No idea why you stated it wasn’t. I had them adjust the top speed to 25, software controlled. It’s perfect at 25 and maintains it great. I had them adjust the regeneration “braking” as initially it was to abrupt. After the adj it’s just like a Tesla now. Really nice. As for price, a month ago when we bought —— the C2 was about 3k less because the small golf bag area is a huge issue and other things that were changed in the C4. So mine was &13,900 including the great perfectly made custom sunbrella. So very happy. And as for the poster saying it looks cheap, I feel the quality of materials and workmanship was excellent. Very solid. If you have doubts give it a look and ride. Really.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

With all due respect… Almost all of your posts concerning EV's are negative. It doesn't involve much of a forum search to realize that 99%+ of the people who own EV's post positive comments about them.
As I said before EV's are not lead acid battery powered. They are lithium powered.
I watch this forum daily so I also see whats posted. I challenge you to find me five posts in the thousands of posts, where is somebody who actually owns a lithium ion battery powered golf cart posted something negative about it.......

Of course they're going to put up positive posts about their purchase...

To do otherwise would be admitting the made a mistake... And we all know THAT'S not gonna happen...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Nice try, however, here is what I ACTUALLY posted.

1) to answer the first part: Look at the number of posts BY EV OWNERS stating they get 25,35 and 50 miles/charge. Sorry, I want more. And if you look back 3 whole posts, you find this from an EV owner:

"I keep hearing this 80-90 mile range for Lithium Golf Carts ... nonsense.
I have a Star EV, 210 Amp.
I had a Star EV 120 Amp as a loaner for a week.
Your battery gauge is non-linear folks. Just because you get 35 miles and your gauge says 50%, don't count on it.
The 120 Amp I had, showed 1/2 charge at 18 miles. It really had about 3 miles left or 1 mile less than I needed.
Carts in The Villages Villages are driven "pedal to the metal", almost all the time. If you don't believe that, go drive around in your cart at 17 mph and see if anyone stays behind you for more than 2 minutes.
As others have said, the general degradation of Lithium depends on a lot of factors and they don't seem enough have been in use, long enough to actually quantify what's really going to happen.
In the meantime, I wouldn't gamble on that 80-90 mile range. If I get 45-50 out my 210 AMP, I figure I'm doing ok."

2) I DID NOT call all EV owners "delusional", I posted anyone who thinks the get 90 miles/charge, no battery degradation and a lifetime of over 10 years is delusional.

3) I DID NOT call all EV owners gullible and brainwashed---only anybody who thinks that changing from ICE to EV has anything to do with so-called "global warming" and think they are saving the planet.

4) I'm still trying to figure out what your obsession with post count is all about

Next time please try to get it right.

#4 is what people do when they have no argument and just think they're being cute while attempting to insult you...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by phylt

Please, simply give it a break. Your initial (many) posts, including the harsh "delusional" comment were combative. Now, the attempt to justify indicates the weakness of your argument.

The post count matter appears true for many posters on TOTV. The one-liner responses, and the continual obsessive follow-up.

And NOW the topic of "global warming".... I mentioned before that we are NOT 'Greenies' , actually the OPPOSITE. We simply like new tech, the quiet, the smoothness, the no-smell. period. So DO NOT plug us into a certain group that you may dislike.

My focus on opening this Thread was simply to offer information to Villagers who may be interested in a new Lithium golf cart. We are so very impressed with ours. But did not think that some here, esp 'GE' would strike out with obsessive negative posts (IMO).

Please let it go....

And GE specifically separated the "greenies" from those who want a quieter cart with no gas smell...

You did read that part, didn't you?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by phylt

...and again the name-calling. Just another indication of pompous rudeness.

Looks like you're joining in on the name-calling fun! Ironic, no?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Amazing how easy it is to get the electric cart owners all riled up. The logical conclusion is that are insecure about their choice. Or as Shakespear put it "Methinks the lady doth protest too much". Anyway, my work here is done, maybe I'll move on to "cat people"

Cat people? Don't get me started on those lunatics!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

#6) In the future there will be charges everywhere just like gas stations are now. And BATTERY TECHNOLOGY will NOT stand still (science never stops). Batteries in the future will be lighter, smaller, and hold MORE charge.

The future is NOW...

Remind me agian... What type of EV do you own?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

Actually for our new Custom Drive cart, chargers ARE everywhere. It has a great on-board charging system with an AC 110v cable which we keep in the front trunk (Frunk). So in the event I ever run out of juice (totally unlikely). I’d look for an outlet.

So you'll just steal someone else's electricity?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by DaddyD

This thread is a perfect example of why "The Villages" / "Villagers" have the negative reputation it / they do amongst the general public.

You must not spend much time on the internet, especially FaceBook...

This is nothing exceptional, nor different than what goes on everywhere...

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Maker

The original message was the cart uses reverse motor braking...

That does not mean the motor turns in "reverse". The motor is electronically changed into operating as a generator. The cart's forward motion is now used to drive the motor. Since operating in generator mode, the motor consumes the kinetic energy of movement, converting it into electricity. In other words, the motor becomes a mini power generation plant. The generation slows the cart, and recharges the battery at the same time.
Also called braking regen.
This captures kinetic as electricity to be used to get moving. Net overall saving battery use to extend range.

...And the energy that cannot be put back into the battery (under hard braking or battery at 100% SOC) is flared-off via a large ceramic resister under the passenger side seat in the EZGO. It is a better idea than flaring heat using a brake pad

[Bay Kid]

The EZGO cart seemed to have a jerky cruise speed. None of the competition carts were as nice a ride as the Yamaha for me.

[phylt]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Of course they're going to put up positive posts about their purchase...

To do otherwise would be admitting the made a mistake... And we all know THAT'S not gonna happen...

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"Of course"???? Talk about a generalization of people/posters you don't know or can get inside their heads. "We all know"....
Now we have behindthekeyboard psychologists here on TOTV. If you look at our posts re the purchase and experience of our Custom Drive EV cart, please notice not all our input was rosy....