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Old 08-15-2011, 02:07 PM
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Seen some posts about high test gas in carts. Actually your cart will run cooler with high test, lawn mower to.
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:10 PM
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I am waiting to buy a hybrid golf cart
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:15 PM
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Leaks, oil and gas are a possibility with a gas cart. I have a Club Car electric and range anxiety was an issue until I added a charge indicator and began making 30+ mile trips around the villages without a problem. I do have a newer set of 48V batteries so range might become a concern in the future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_vehicle_battery
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:38 PM
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the following is taken from a fact sheet that's available at The Villages golf cart store...believe it or not!

Electric
  • quieter than gas
  • low emissions
  • requires no gas to operate
  • up to 60 miles range per charge

Gas
  • lighter than an electric cart
  • no hydrogen fumes from batteries
  • does not require daily charging
  • up to 250 miles range on a full tank
  • less user maintenance
  • higher resale value

Electric - average monthly operating cost
  • based on 10 miles per day average
  • 2.5 KWH to charge (new) = 0.29
  • 10 KWH to charge (at end of life) = 1.13
  • battery replacement (3 years = 816.00) = 22.67
  • difference in resale value = 1.39
  • annual maintenance = 4.17
  • TOTAL MONTHLY OPERATING COST = 49.53

Gas - average monthly operating cost
  • based on 10 miles per day average
  • 40 mpg @ 4.00 per gallon = 30.00
  • battery (6 years = 80.00) = 0.11
  • annual maintenance = 5.39
  • TOTAL MONTHLY OPERATING COST = 35.50
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:47 PM
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the following is taken from a fact sheet that's available at The Villages golf cart store...believe it or not!

Electric
  • quieter than gas
  • low emissions
  • requires no gas to operate
  • up to 60 miles range per charge

Gas
  • lighter than an electric cart
  • no hydrogen fumes from batteries
  • does not require daily charging
  • up to 250 miles range on a full tank
  • less user maintenance
  • higher resale value

Electric - average monthly operating cost
  • based on 10 miles per day average
  • 2.5 KWH to charge (new) = 0.29
  • 10 KWH to charge (at end of life) = 1.13
  • battery replacement (3 years = 816.00) = 22.67
  • difference in resale value = 1.39
  • annual maintenance = 4.17
  • TOTAL MONTHLY OPERATING COST = 49.53

Gas - average monthly operating cost
  • based on 10 miles per day average
  • 40 mpg @ 4.00 per gallon = 30.00
  • battery (6 years = 80.00) = 0.11
  • annual maintenance = 5.39
  • TOTAL MONTHLY OPERATING COST = 35.50
Respectfully disagree with the sign they have up. Check out number 3

http://www.ehow.com/how_4818084_betw...golf-cart.html
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:55 PM
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Agree with Jim. Been in this conversation many times! People who only own gas will say gas. People who own both and keep records have found the electric is cheaper.
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Respectfully disagree Larry. I own both and they both have there pro's and con's. However hands down, no guessing, tracked the data, and electric is more expensive by almost 40%. My figures are a little different (both slightly less) then TV, but the difference is about the same.
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Old 08-15-2011, 05:50 PM
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I agree...I own both electric and gas and have found that the electric is more expensive.
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Old 08-15-2011, 07:10 PM
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You guys might be right. I just know what I hear. Maybe it depends on the amount of miles driven a day.
Had the conversation again tonight with a large group of guys. They average about 100-120 miles a week.( Run all over playing sports) They pay 12-15 dollars a week. About 600 dollars a year. Over 4 years, about 2,400 dollars. Batteries last about 4 years and they cost about 800 dollars. So there is their math. Plus they love that electric is quiet and no smell and no running to gas stations or storing gas.
I think it comes down to how many miles you drive a day and what you like.
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Old 08-15-2011, 07:40 PM
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I have to question to the statement: "Electric golf carts are emission free, and therefore better for the environment, which is also one of their biggest selling points". Emissions free? Where does all that electricity come from? Fact (from the U.S. Dept of Energy): "The nation's fleet of over 100 coal plants is responsible for 57 percent of the electricity generated in the U.S., more than any other single electricity fuel source." The statement that electric carts are "emissions free" is simply not accurate, and the facts are more complicated than the simplistic statement that an electric cart is "better for the environment".
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Old 08-15-2011, 08:23 PM
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Larry, if everyone thinks the cost of gas at $12 to $15 a week and batteries every 4 years at $600 is the cost of electric, I now understand the confusion. Ask them to track ALL the cost. Don't let them ignore the cost of plugging the cart in every night. Everyone says "I don't notice any increase in my electric bill" is the biggest bunch of BS you will ever hear.

There are many added costs to running a cart and you need to consider them all to get an accurate picture. I have 3 years worth of data with carts in rental units. Electric is more expensive. Anyone who says different I want to meet and sell them stocks. I will make a killing.

I really like my electric cart. But not because it costs less. It does not.
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I have to question to the statement: "Electric golf carts are emission free, and therefore better for the environment, which is also one of their biggest selling points". Emissions free? Where does all that electricity come from? Fact (from the U.S. Dept of Energy): "The nation's fleet of over 100 coal plants is responsible for 57 percent of the electricity generated in the U.S., more than any other single electricity fuel source." The statement that electric carts are "emissions free" is simply not accurate, and the facts are more complicated than the simplistic statement that an electric cart is "better for the environment".

Coal Plant emissions are much much cleaner than then were 40 years ago.


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The statement was made that electric carts are "emissions free". Maybe the cart itself is, but the source of its energy is not. I love electric carts, but they may not be more environmentally friendly.
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Larry, if everyone thinks the cost of gas at $12 to $15 a week and batteries every 4 years at $600 is the cost of electric, I now understand the confusion. Ask them to track ALL the cost. Don't let them ignore the cost of plugging the cart in every night. Everyone says "I don't notice any increase in my electric bill" is the biggest bunch of BS you will ever hear.

There are many added costs to running a cart and you need to consider them all to get an accurate picture. I have 3 years worth of data with carts in rental units. Electric is more expensive. Anyone who says different I want to meet and sell them stocks. I will make a killing.

I really like my electric cart. But not because it costs less. It does not.
This data is for a Prius car.

Electric .03 per mile-vs-Gas .09-.13 per mile

How much will the electricity cost? The Prius conversion requires around 300 watt hours per mile driven. To determine how much you will spend on electricity, check your electric bill and see how much you pay per kilowatt hour. Multiply that amount by .3 (that's "point three") to determine your electric cost per mile. In 2006, the U.S. the average cost of electricity was $.0986 (that's 9.86 cents) per kilowatt hour so the cost per mile based on this average would be three cents per mile.

How does this compare to the cost of gasoline? Toyota states the combined (city/highway average) MPG for the Prius is 46 miles per gallon. As of October 2007, gasoline was between $2.37 (lowest) and $3.69 (highest) per gallon. This means the Prius gasoline cost per mile is between $.05 and $.08 per mile. If you drive the U.S. "average" car (based on 2007 CAFE fuel economy average of 27.5 miles per gallon) your gasoline cost per mile is between $.09 and $.13.
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Old 08-15-2011, 10:27 PM
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Great minds think alike. I was going to post that, no, in addition to ranges, you can buy washers and dryers in gas.
I thought it was about the buffalo "Home, home on the range"
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