[The Chipster]

What a great example of a whiny first world problem.

[retiredguy123]

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer

True service dogs have to go through special training (it's also expensive)! "IF/when" they pass it people will be able to observe them in that they respond to their human's prompts. IF in a restaurant they will lie under the table, out of the way. IF walking with a leash, they will "heel" with their human. The rest of us should not pet them unless given permission. Too many people have selfishly (yes it's selfish) pushed the limits to bringing their family pet everywhere. I've seen them in medical clinics too----which is deplorable (pets NOT service animals). I love animals but that's what they are----NOT our "kids"!!![/QUOTE

There are of course the cheats. The ones who buy counterfeit service dog vests. A misbehaving service dog is an imposter because it is obvious it is untrained. Managers and business owners who will inconvenience the many to not confront one person just compound the problem

You can buy a service dog vest online, but it won't be counterfeit. They don't exist. A service vest is entirely optional and so is professional training. According to the Federal disability law, you can train your own dog to perform a task for you, and it will instantly become a legal service dog. There are people who will sell you a service vest, a certificate, or a training program, but none of that is required to have a service dog that will comply with the Federal law.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by prendymom

Saturday night mass a lady brought a small dog in a dog carrier into church. She sat down in a chair & the dog didn't make a peep. Obviously not a service dog. Seriously.

So what? Show me where the dog hurt you. The dog was in a carrier and didn't make a peep...... how did that affect your life?

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Meanwhile, other people do use that top area and put unwrapped produce there. And hand washing is an excellent suggestion, but not because of COVID, which is not transmitted in that fashion.

Yeah, that seat should be reserved for babies with leaky diapers.

[sallyg]

Originally Posted by Boe39

Went into Lady Lake store yesterday, and for the 3rd time I saw a lady with a dog in a cart(not a PTSD dog). I finally said something to 3 employees who said they were just as upset about it but their hands were tied by there managers. They were told they didn't want to upset there customers? What about those of us that don't want to put food in a cart where a dog's bare but, and genitals were just laying on. Also my wife is afraid, and allergic to dogs. We will no longer shop in Sam's Club or any food store that allows this policy. I do own a non-allergenic cat(Bengal), maybe I will start bringing him shopping at these stores.

Please do. ☺️

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Not true. The Federal disability law does not require any certification letter, or any documentation at all for service dogs.

Correct, and I think it should require proof. I know someone in TV who brings his "service dog" everywhere. The dog wears a too small vest that he may have gotten for a previous dog on Amazon. I've seen it is restaurants during shedding season, by the time they leave you could have another dog from the hair wafting around the room. He also lets people pet her, she never lies down, and she barks. She weighs around 30-35 pounds. No one challenges the dog being where it shouldn't be.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by The Chipster

What a great example of a whiny first world problem.

It's a right of passage in TV, to whine and complain about dogs.

Dog owners couldn't care less..... we laugh at all the outrage.

[Daxdog]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

It doesn't work at Walmart. They have a "no pets" sign, but they don't enforce it. Enforcement is the key. Although, if the dog owner says it is a service dog, there is not much the store can do because of the Federal disability law.

They are allowed to ask what the dog is trained to do, Under Fl law.

[lmrk32]

Well, since you brought up children let’s talk about them. Especially in restaurants and airplanes. They shriek, throw things, have tantrums and they go to the bathroom in their pants, too! What should we do about that?

[Rodneysblue]

Originally Posted by Boe39

Went into Lady Lake store yesterday, and for the 3rd time I saw a lady with a dog in a cart(not a PTSD dog). I finally said something to 3 employees who said they were just as upset about it but their hands were tied by there managers. They were told they didn't want to upset there customers? What about those of us that don't want to put food in a cart where a dog's bare but, and genitals were just laying on. Also my wife is afraid, and allergic to dogs. We will no longer shop in Sam's Club or any food store that allows this policy. I do own a non-allergenic cat(Bengal), maybe I will start bringing him shopping at these stores.

Unfortunately this means you won’t be shopping anywhere. I’ve seen pets in shopping carts all over.

[Byte1]

I love animals, especially dogs. And I have had dogs a good portion of my life. I even trained them in the military for a while. That said, I find people that bring their pets into a store to be irresponsible and lack in manners and common sense. They have total disregard for others. NO ONE brought their pets into a store when I was growing up, let alone pushing one around is a shopping cart. I often wonder if their dogs sit on their dinning room table when they eat meals. Leave your dogs at home when you shop, especially in a Food store or restaurant. You pet owners are showing total disregard and disrespect for your neighbor. If you can't live without a dog attached to your leg wherever you go, then get someone else to shop for you or do your shopping on line and have it delivered. If you are that needy, get some help from a human that specializes in helping needy people. When I see folks in public businesses, especially a food store, I consider them to be weak minded and lacking in respect for others.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by lmrk32

Well, since you brought up children let’s talk about them. Especially in restaurants and airplanes. They shriek, throw things, have tantrums and they go to the bathroom in their pants, too! What should we do about that?

Birth control? Contraceptives?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

It's a right of passage in TV, to whine and complain about dogs.

Dog owners couldn't care less..... we laugh at all the outrage.

That's obvious.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by lmrk32

Well, since you brought up children let’s talk about them. Especially in restaurants and airplanes. They shriek, throw things, have tantrums and they go to the bathroom in their pants, too! What should we do about that?

Drown them all at birth?

[Arlene pugh]

Call health department for dogs in carts if managers don’t make owners remove them. Service dogs are not allowed in carts. Dogs may have parasites and don’t wear diapers. Store may and should be fined!!