Relocating soon - Dogs, fences and safety

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 08-16-2024, 03:32 PM
WiscoDogsDad WiscoDogsDad is offline
Member
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 75
Thanks: 2
Thanked 35 Times in 20 Posts
Default Relocating soon - Dogs, fences and safety

Happy day, all!

Come spring, my two pups (Redbone coonhound mix and English setter) will be coming to live full time, permanently, in The Villages.

If I'm lucky enough to find a suitable place with a fenced backyard (Courtyard Villa, Veranda, etc) this will be ideal. They are used to a fenced in backyard, here in Wisconsin.

I understand that, there, the fence is as much about keeping dangers OUT as keeping dogs IN!

So, if one were to have a wall fence, as opposed to some of the "permeable" fences I have seen overlooking ponds, can we safely leave our pups out unattended?

By this, I mean, can I go back to my work on my computer as my setter lounges in the sun on a day that is not sweltering? Can I let them out, after dark, for bio breaks, without standing watch?

Again, all this assumes a solid wall and not a fence that critters can easily breach, from the outside.

I would be thrilled to have any blindspots, of mine, illuminated by you kind and experienced dog owners.

Regards,
  #2  
Old 08-16-2024, 04:05 PM
thelegges's Avatar
thelegges thelegges is offline
Sage
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Drayton Plains, MI, Vietnam, Waterford, MI, Pennacamp, Fernandina, Duval, 1 retired in Richmond
Posts: 2,587
Thanks: 17
Thanked 1,839 Times in 713 Posts
Default

Even though walls will keep out some wildlife, you will still get , snakes, bobcats. We have wall/fence backs up to prairie, and have turtles, snakes, bobcats, and coyotes. This morning our cameras went off and one of the bear cubs decided to run through our back yard, taking a moment to leave small pile of scat.

You have larger dogs, but if I cared for my pets I would never leave them alone outside. But that’s just one opinion
  #3  
Old 08-16-2024, 04:28 PM
WiscoDogsDad WiscoDogsDad is offline
Member
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 75
Thanks: 2
Thanked 35 Times in 20 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegges View Post
Even though walls will keep out some wildlife, you will still get , snakes, bobcats. We have wall/fence backs up to prairie, and have turtles, snakes, bobcats, and coyotes. This morning our cameras went off and one of the bear cubs decided to run through our back yard, taking a moment to leave small pile of scat.

You have larger dogs, but if I cared for my pets I would never leave them alone outside. But that’s just one opinion
They are only 35 and 45 pounds apiece....so not huge....but their well-being is my first priority. Your feedback is valuable and appreciated.
  #4  
Old 08-16-2024, 04:32 PM
Papa_lecki Papa_lecki is offline
Soaring Eagle member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 2,466
Thanks: 90
Thanked 3,095 Times in 1,149 Posts
Default

I have a Labrador, i would not let him out.

You actually want a birdcage, where they can stay out all day - then just let them out in the yard for bio breaks.

Too many animals can get into a fenced yard.
  #5  
Old 08-16-2024, 04:33 PM
CFrance's Avatar
CFrance CFrance is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Tamarind Grove/Monpazier, France
Posts: 14,640
Thanks: 389
Thanked 2,056 Times in 842 Posts
Default

We live in a CYV walled on all sides but the front. We have two dogs, a 40-lb beagle/hound dog mix and a 50-lb American Eskimo mix. I have no problem letting them wander in and out, but I would not sequester myself in a room away from ear shot, and we're very careful about their being out there after dark. After dark the lanai doors are open and we are in the living room. They really don't want to stay out there very long after dark, and I wouldn't let them be out there all evening. We've had a bobcat and one cat run along the wall in the evening, but nothing beside a garter snake has ever invaded the courtyard.
Living on a preserve or golf course with a decorative fence would be a non starter for me.
BTW, we live about ten minutes from the Wildwood dog park on Huey St, which is mostly shade from a dozen live oaks. It's full of squirrels for the beagle to "hunt," and she has taught the other dog to chase them. I would never move, because that's their favorite place to be. A lot of the dog parks in TV have little to no shade and very little seating. Just an FYI.
__________________
It's harder to hate close up.
  #6  
Old 08-16-2024, 06:36 PM
villagetinker's Avatar
villagetinker villagetinker is offline
Sage
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Village of Pinellas
Posts: 10,915
Thanks: 3
Thanked 7,958 Times in 2,889 Posts
Default

There are several threads on this subject and specifically the threat from predators. We have cats, and while they are free to roam inside the birdcage we had pet rated screening installed primarily to keep other animals out.
__________________
Pennsylvania, for 60+ years, most recently, Allentown, now TV.
  #7  
Old 08-16-2024, 09:10 PM
Topspinmo's Avatar
Topspinmo Topspinmo is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 14,610
Thanks: 7,357
Thanked 5,963 Times in 3,064 Posts
Default

CYV probably your best bet unless dogs can clear 5 1/2 foot wall? Only place they could dig would be the PVC fencing separating you’re yard from neighbors and access gate fence on side yard. Plenty of new and resale CYVs on market. Just have find one that fits you. I had flat coated retriever that could clear 4 foot fence easily.
  #8  
Old 08-16-2024, 09:47 PM
Taltarzac725's Avatar
Taltarzac725 Taltarzac725 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 51,435
Thanks: 10,811
Thanked 3,976 Times in 2,400 Posts
Default

Bobcats can get over court yard villa walls. And have been known to scratch holes through lanai screens.
  #9  
Old 08-16-2024, 09:47 PM
OrangeBlossomBaby OrangeBlossomBaby is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 10,011
Thanks: 8,040
Thanked 11,199 Times in 3,733 Posts
Default

Eagles and other birds of prey don't need to climb over a wall to take a shot at your dog. Bobcats can climb trees. As someone mentioned - there are snakes - most of them around here are small constrictors, not poisonous, and not hungry enough to try and swallow a dog. But there are a couple that are poisonous. There's also the matter of shade. If your yard has no shade trees, you absolutely wouldn't want to leave your pets outside unattended.

I don't let my cat outside without me right there with her, and she is skittish about being outside, which is a good thing. She's an indoor cat. If I had dogs I would never -ever- leave them anywhere outside unattended, not in my yard, not anywhere else.
  #10  
Old 08-16-2024, 10:05 PM
PootleK PootleK is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2024
Posts: 25
Thanks: 51
Thanked 33 Times in 11 Posts
Default

I have a courtyard villa with a secure wall. I let my dog in and out as and when he wants. I'm not worried about him in the yard alone, but then again he's a 70lb pitbull, not many predators would come after him.
  #11  
Old 08-17-2024, 12:06 AM
MrFlorida MrFlorida is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 1,847
Thanks: 99
Thanked 2,545 Times in 912 Posts
Default

Don't forget rats, they are around at night.
  #12  
Old 08-17-2024, 02:17 AM
RICH1 RICH1 is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South
Posts: 1,431
Thanks: 3,486
Thanked 1,420 Times in 617 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WiscoDogsDad View Post
Happy day, all!

Come spring, my two pups (Redbone coonhound mix and English setter) will be coming to live full time, permanently, in The Villages.

If I'm lucky enough to find a suitable place with a fenced backyard (Courtyard Villa, Veranda, etc) this will be ideal. They are used to a fenced in backyard, here in Wisconsin.

I understand that, there, the fence is as much about keeping dangers OUT as keeping dogs IN!

So, if one were to have a wall fence, as opposed to some of the "permeable" fences I have seen overlooking ponds, can we safely leave our pups out unattended?

By this, I mean, can I go back to my work on my computer as my setter lounges in the sun on a day that is not sweltering? Can I let them out, after dark, for bio breaks, without standing watch?

Again, all this assumes a solid wall and not a fence that critters can easily breach, from the outside.

I would be thrilled to have any blindspots, of mine, illuminated by you kind and experienced dog owners.

Regards,
The constant barking will be welcomed... Florida Heat is hard on animals
  #13  
Old 08-17-2024, 04:51 AM
nativetex nativetex is offline
Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 32
Thanks: 5
Thanked 42 Times in 18 Posts
Default

I have a Veranda with a masonry wall on the backside and 6' vinyl fence on the sides. My 98 pound Lab and 93 pound rescue are perfectly safe in the backyard. They go in and out as they wish.
  #14  
Old 08-17-2024, 05:23 AM
Steban Steban is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2023
Posts: 27
Thanks: 6
Thanked 22 Times in 8 Posts
Default

Your neighbors will hate your dogs because they are a perceived threat to their much smaller dogs.

They will not appreciate you allowing your dogs to urinate or defecate on the lawns even if you instantly bag it. FYI dog urine does not burn St Augustine and Bahia grass.

Your neighbors will not tolerate your dogs howling in your yard for more than a minute. Even then, they will complain.

Your dogs are acclimated to the cool Wisconsin weather. They will abhor the Florida summer heat and humidity.

Always test the sidewalks and roadways with YOUR bare feet before walking them. Too hot for you, too hot for them.

They will love Florida winters.

We let our massive dog in the yard unsupervised. He wants back in as soon as he is finished his business. Critters are afraid of him.
  #15  
Old 08-17-2024, 06:03 AM
Sandy and Ed Sandy and Ed is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Pennecamp
Posts: 872
Thanks: 396
Thanked 750 Times in 372 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WiscoDogsDad View Post
They are only 35 and 45 pounds apiece....so not huge....but their well-being is my first priority. Your feedback is valuable and appreciated.
We have a 19 lb Lhasa Apso and live in a courtyard villa with walls on three sides. No wildlife refuge near us. Our dog goes out….we go out. I’m sure that, in our location, she would be fine but if she decided to go after the occasional black racer or corn snake she would get bit. There are also predatory birds to consider. Probably overprotective but that’s just us.
Closed Thread

Tags
fence, backyard, fenced, wall, keeping

Thread Tools

You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:24 PM.