Staffordhsire bull terriers

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 04-28-2010, 08:35 PM
Tornado Topliss Tornado Topliss is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Default Staffordhsire bull terriers

Are there any Staffordshire or American Bull Terrier owners in The Villages. A friend from the UK has written a wonderful book on the life of his Staffordshire Blue Terrier. The book is called "Blue Genes". If anyone would like more information I'll be glad to give you details.
  #2  
Old 04-28-2010, 08:44 PM
Pturner's Avatar
Pturner Pturner is offline
Sage
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 7,064
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

"Blue Genes"-- that's adorable. I used to wear them all the time.
  #3  
Old 04-28-2010, 10:07 PM
JimJoe's Avatar
JimJoe JimJoe is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Iowa
Posts: 855
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tornado Topliss View Post
Are there any Staffordshire or American Bull Terrier owners in The Villages. A friend from the UK has written a wonderful book on the life of his Staffordshire Blue Terrier. The book is called "Blue Genes". If anyone would like more information I'll be glad to give you details.
Both of those breeds are pitbulls. I know pitbull owners love these dogs and will say that they are very good and gentle if they are trained properly. BUT they are very powerful, have a natural killing ability and can be very aggressive. That is why dog fighters and drug dealers keep them. Good people love these dogs and try hard to train them but because of their nature and their power they are very dangerous no matter how much training they have. Not all of them are well trained, and owners are not always around to exercise that control. Type in pitbull in Google and read about the deaths and damage they have caused. Last year I had to fight one with my bare hands to save my dog's life, and I barely won. It tore my dogs rear leg wide open as she turned to try to run away, and then it grabbed her by the head and attempted to tear her head off. I beat it with my walking stick and it did not feel anything I did. My dog was seriously injured but after two surgeries and much expense she did recover. I had to jump on it and choke it nearly to death to save my small dog. I was bit and had to receive medical treatment. I was scared and emotionally damaged. My dog was tore up, and I had to rush her to the vet for surgeries, and I admit that I failed to protect her in the first place. All I was doing was walking down the street with my dog on a leash. The pitbull's instinct to kill kicked in when it saw my little dog, pulled away from the child walking it and and changed my life forever. They are VERY dangerous. Most people who are injured or killed by them are trying to save their own dog from attack. I am a strong person who was very lucky. They do not belong in the villages or any city.
  #4  
Old 04-28-2010, 11:08 PM
Barefoot's Avatar
Barefoot Barefoot is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Winters in TV, Summers in Canada.
Posts: 17,669
Thanks: 1,694
Thanked 244 Times in 185 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimJoe View Post
Both of those breeds are pitbulls. I know pitbull owners love these dogs and will say that they are very good and gentle if they are trained properly. BUT they are very powerful, have a natural killing ability and can be very aggressive. That is why dog fighters and drug dealers keep them. Good people love these dogs and try hard to train them but because of their nature and their power they are very dangerous no matter how much training they have. Not all of them are well trained, and owners are not always around to exercise that control. Type in pitbull in Google and read about the deaths and damage they have caused. Last year I had to fight one with my bare hands to save my dog's life, and I barely won. It tore my dogs rear leg wide open as she turned to try to run away, and then it grabbed her by the head and attempted to tear her head off. I beat it with my walking stick and it did not feel anything I did. My dog was seriously injured but after two surgeries and much expense she did recover. I had to jump on it and choke it nearly to death to save my small dog. I was bit and had to receive medical treatment. I was scared and emotionally damaged. My dog was tore up, and I had to rush her to the vet for surgeries, and I admit that I failed to protect her in the first place. All I was doing was walking down the street with my dog on a leash. The pitbull's instinct to kill kicked in when it saw my little dog, pulled away from the child walking it and and changed my life forever. They are VERY dangerous. Most people who are injured or killed by them are trying to save their own dog from attack. I am a strong person who was very lucky. They do not belong in the villages or any city.
Jimjoe, you have my sympathy. What a horrid experience. I agree with you that they can be very dangerous dogs.

Pitbulls are actually illegal in Ontario, Canada, where we spend summers. I know there are exceptions, but pitbulls are such strong animals that if they go nutty, it is almost impossible to stop them.

If I see a pitbull at the dog park in The Villages, I leave. I don't want to take any chances.
__________________
Barefoot At Last
No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted.
Saving one dog will not change the world, but surely for that one dog, the world will change forever.
  #5  
Old 04-28-2010, 11:24 PM
K9-Lovers's Avatar
K9-Lovers K9-Lovers is offline
Soaring Eagle member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Village of El Cortez. Before: Canada, NY, VA, AL, AK, NV, DE & France, Germany
Posts: 2,135
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimJoe View Post
Both of those breeds are pitbulls. I know pitbull owners love these dogs and will say that they are very good and gentle if they are trained properly. BUT they are very powerful, have a natural killing ability and can be very aggressive. That is why dog fighters and drug dealers keep them. Good people love these dogs and try hard to train them but because of their nature and their power they are very dangerous no matter how much training they have. Not all of them are well trained, and owners are not always around to exercise that control. Type in pitbull in Google and read about the deaths and damage they have caused. Last year I had to fight one with my bare hands to save my dog's life, and I barely won. It tore my dogs rear leg wide open as she turned to try to run away, and then it grabbed her by the head and attempted to tear her head off. I beat it with my walking stick and it did not feel anything I did. My dog was seriously injured but after two surgeries and much expense she did recover. I had to jump on it and choke it nearly to death to save my small dog. I was bit and had to receive medical treatment. I was scared and emotionally damaged. My dog was tore up, and I had to rush her to the vet for surgeries, and I admit that I failed to protect her in the first place. All I was doing was walking down the street with my dog on a leash. The pitbull's instinct to kill kicked in when it saw my little dog, pulled away from the child walking it and and changed my life forever. They are VERY dangerous. Most people who are injured or killed by them are trying to save their own dog from attack. I am a strong person who was very lucky. They do not belong in the villages or any city.

Thank God you protected your own dog and survived to tell the story.

You are right. Some pit bulls are sweet and loveable and non-aggressive towards people, but dog-aggressive. The instinct to kill another dog is inherit in the breed. However, these dogs will sometimes attack humans. My friend's daughter was attacked by pit bulls and almost had her face ripped off.

Earlier this year, before moving to TV, Mr. K9-Lovers and I were walking our dogs on leash and were attacked much in the same way by a pit bull/sharpei mix. The attacker was going for their throats and heads, but we held our dogs as high in the air as our arms could reach. The attacking dog was jumping up and biting them and they had very deep and large wounds on their hind areas. I am sure our dogs would be dead now, except there was a trash can at the curb and I threw the dogs inside. He was a killer but was only dog aggressive.

Mr. K9-Lovers and I have a defensive plan, which we have practiced much like a fire drill. We carry a non-breakable walking stick with us now to use as a defensive weapon. We've learned that the best defensive method is to ram the stick down the open mouth of the attacker. Just a few days ago in Fruitland Park, a large female pit mix charged at us as we walked our dogs on leash. We put our plan into effect. When she saw the walking stick and my husband's stance, and heard my loud menacing growl, she ran off. (The growl/bark wasn't part of the plan, and it surprised me as much as the attacking dog!).

Being attacked changes you forever. Fortunately, our dogs have only physical scars and do not seem to be emotionally damaged.
__________________
K9-Lovers
  #6  
Old 04-29-2010, 12:13 AM
JimJoe's Avatar
JimJoe JimJoe is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Iowa
Posts: 855
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by K9-Lovers View Post
Thank God you protected your own dog and survived to tell the story.

You are right. Some pit bulls are sweet and loveable and non-aggressive towards people, but dog-aggressive. The instinct to kill another dog is inherit in the breed. However, these dogs will sometimes attack humans. My friend's daughter was attacked by pit bulls and almost had her face ripped off.

Earlier this year, before moving to TV, Mr. K9-Lovers and I were walking our dogs on leash and were attacked much in the same way by a pit bull/sharpei mix. The attacker was going for their throats and heads, but we held our dogs as high in the air as our arms could reach. The attacking dog was jumping up and biting them and they had very deep and large wounds on their hind areas. I am sure our dogs would be dead now, except there was a trash can at the curb and I threw the dogs inside. He was a killer but was only dog aggressive.

Mr. K9-Lovers and I have a defensive plan, which we have practiced much like a fire drill. We carry a non-breakable walking stick with us now to use as a defensive weapon. We've learned that the best defensive method is to ram the stick down the open mouth of the attacker. Just a few days ago in Fruitland Park, a large female pit mix charged at us as we walked our dogs on leash. We put our plan into effect. When she saw the walking stick and my husband's stance, and heard my loud menacing growl, she ran off. (The growl/bark wasn't part of the plan, and it surprised me as much as the attacking dog!).

Being attacked changes you forever. Fortunately, our dogs have only physical scars and do not seem to be emotionally damaged.
You did a fantastic job but be warned.. I too had scared one off on a previous occasion with my walking stick but the second one had no fear of the stick.. he just wanted to kill my dog.. and even though I saved her I still feel guilty when Iook at her scars that I didnt act more decisively sooner.
  #7  
Old 04-29-2010, 05:22 AM
BritParrothead's Avatar
BritParrothead BritParrothead is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Bournemouth; Dorset; England
Posts: 666
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

A friend of our has 2 Staffies, one girl and one boy. The girls dog is adorable, the boy dog scares the living daylight out of me! He has to be caged when they have guests.. When he was a pup, he too was adorable, they asked if my Welsh Border collie would play with him to help with socialising, ok for the first couple of times, but as he got older and bigger, no way was I letting my dogs any where near him!!
__________________
I'm a permanent reminder of a temporary feeling
  #8  
Old 04-29-2010, 06:19 AM
Taltarzac
Guest
Posts: n/a
Default A Staffordshire bull terrier did pin my dog at the local dog park...

... a few months back. I have not seen that dog back at Doggie Doo Run Run again. It would pin other dogs down but never did any actual damage that I know of except the emotional trauma to the dogs' owners and to the dogs.

The Staffordshire Bull Terrier's owner did not seem to be too concerned about the emotional trauma inflicted by his dog. He just non chalantly walked up and explained that his dog was "just playing" and would not do any damage as his dog pinned other dogs to the ground.


Like Barefoot, if I see something that looks like a pure bred "pit bull" entering Doggie Doo Run Run, I leave.
  #9  
Old 04-29-2010, 08:48 AM
graciegirl's Avatar
graciegirl graciegirl is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 40,141
Thanks: 4,999
Thanked 5,736 Times in 1,983 Posts
Send a message via AIM to graciegirl
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimJoe View Post
Both of those breeds are pitbulls. I know pitbull owners love these dogs and will say that they are very good and gentle if they are trained properly. BUT they are very powerful, have a natural killing ability and can be very aggressive. That is why dog fighters and drug dealers keep them. Good people love these dogs and try hard to train them but because of their nature and their power they are very dangerous no matter how much training they have. Not all of them are well trained, and owners are not always around to exercise that control. Type in pitbull in Google and read about the deaths and damage they have caused. Last year I had to fight one with my bare hands to save my dog's life, and I barely won. It tore my dogs rear leg wide open as she turned to try to run away, and then it grabbed her by the head and attempted to tear her head off. I beat it with my walking stick and it did not feel anything I did. My dog was seriously injured but after two surgeries and much expense she did recover. I had to jump on it and choke it nearly to death to save my small dog. I was bit and had to receive medical treatment. I was scared and emotionally damaged. My dog was tore up, and I had to rush her to the vet for surgeries, and I admit that I failed to protect her in the first place. All I was doing was walking down the street with my dog on a leash. The pitbull's instinct to kill kicked in when it saw my little dog, pulled away from the child walking it and and changed my life forever. They are VERY dangerous. Most people who are injured or killed by them are trying to save their own dog from attack. I am a strong person who was very lucky. They do not belong in the villages or any city.
What a decent person you are. Although you went through this horrible experience you were able to fairly talk about this breed. I don't own a dog but everyone who knows me knows I love them. I am afraid of this breed for the reasons that have been stated. Nonie who is the absolute biggest dog lover I know and who volunteers her time at shelters says the same thing.

You are a good brave person JimJoe.
  #10  
Old 04-29-2010, 10:06 AM
Barefoot's Avatar
Barefoot Barefoot is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Winters in TV, Summers in Canada.
Posts: 17,669
Thanks: 1,694
Thanked 244 Times in 185 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taltarzac View Post
... a few months back. I have not seen that dog back at Doggie Doo Run Run again. It would pin other dogs down but never did any actual damage that I know of except the emotional trauma to the dogs' owners and to the dogs.

The Staffordshire Bull Terrier's owner did not seem to be too concerned about the emotional trauma inflicted by his dog. He just non chalantly walked up and explained that his dog was "just playing" and would not do any damage as his dog pinned other dogs to the ground.

Like Barefoot, if I see something that looks like a pure bred "pit bull" entering Doggie Doo Run Run, I leave.
The pit bull that Tal is talking about at DDRR ran over to my ten-pound dog and pinned him to the ground. It happened on the opposite of the large dog park and I wasn't able to get there quickly. I was terrified. I had no idea if my dog would be dead by the time I got to him, but he wasn't injured.

As Tal said, the owner wasn't at all concerned about the situation. He laughingly explained the dog was "just playing".

I was absolutely furious. I'm sure that members complained to the owners because that was the last time I saw the dog.
__________________
Barefoot At Last
No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted.
Saving one dog will not change the world, but surely for that one dog, the world will change forever.
  #11  
Old 04-29-2010, 10:24 AM
otherbruddaDarrell's Avatar
otherbruddaDarrell otherbruddaDarrell is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Indiana,the Villages,Port Charlotte fl ,Summerfield fl, The villages again
Posts: 501
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

I wonder how that dog owner would respond if I was to run over to him and pin him down and then say........I am just playing.
He sounds like a complete idiot that should be banned from any dog park due to lack of sense.
Closed Thread


You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:03 AM.