[bkcunningham1]

Is the issue that you want a park where you can turn your dog loose, sit down and relax and not have to walk him?

[Peachie]

Originally Posted by mrfixit

There is a power company a Right-of-Way which separates Stonecrest from The Villages.

This Right-of-Way is at least 50 feet wide.

This Right-of-Way does NOT belong to Stonecrest.

Stonecrest residents are TRESSPASSING when using this Right of Way.

Fence referred to as "your fence" is on The Villages side of the Right-of Way.

Said fence would therefore be at least 50 feet beyond Stonecrest property.

How would you feel if Villagers walked their dogs ON said Right-of-Way,
behind the Stonecrest outdoor pool.
(your pool near the corner of SE 176th Loop and SE 125th Circle.)

Residents of The Villages would not use this Right-of Way for a doggy bathroom near your community pool.......
......PLEASE ...........we would appreciate this Right-of-Way
not being used for a doggy bathroom behind the homes in The Villages.

Common Courtesy dictates that NO ONE should use this Right-of Way
for a doggy bathroom.

I appreciate your concern for your furry friends.
I do hope your dilemma can be resolved in an expedient and mutually desirable fashion.

Thank You...and all Stonecrest residents for your anticipated cooperation.

Isn't the answer quite simple? The right-of-way of the electric company is not zoned as an animal pasture, I would guess. Therefore, they have an obligation not to cause a health hazard to humans by allowing constant defecation and urination next to homes due to inattentiveness on their part. Perhaps threatened legal action against the electric company would create the needed fence line on the Stonecrest side of the right-of-way and create the area under the power lines as a no-man's land, which it should be.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by silvertoken

The problem is the insurance company. As you notice insurance companys cherry pick the good States from the bad, such as hurricanes, tornados, and also dog bites. An average dog bite in florida will cost $60,000. It is among the highest in the Unites States. To insure a dog will be determined on breed. Some States will soon require all dogs insured. A dog park is a major problem and needs monitoring at all times. This is probably why The Villages leases their dog park as what I am told by the POA. The POA is checking up on this with The Villages, so there may be hope but I seriously doubt it. After studying the many rules on dog parks this incident has come to my attention, and needs to be addressed. I'm sorry if this offends some, but I need help. Some will invent lame ways of humiliation, but I can handle it, Ive been through a lot of it so far, so fire away.

It is not your desire to have an approved Dog Park that offends some. In my case, the offense comes from your statements that you have formed a club that meet with your many dogs that you consolidate into a small area directly over the fence from residents. That being in an area that is not authorized nor approved as a Dog Park under Any CODE. Yet you talk about the home owner trying to disperse your group as the aggressor in this matter. I see the resident as the true victim here, not your group, and not the Dogs.

[silvertoken]

Originally Posted by Peachie

Isn't the answer quite simple? The right-of-way of the electric company is not zoned as an animal pasture, I would guess. Therefore, they have an obligation not to cause a health hazard to humans by allowing constant defecation and urination next to homes due to inattentiveness on their part. Perhaps threatened legal action against the electric company would create the needed fence line on the Stonecrest side of the right-of-way and create the area under the power lines as a no-man's land, which it should be.

Florida has different laws regarding this. There have been many issues regarding the radiation. As with power lines the closer the lines are to the power station the more lethal. That is why some States have a zone restriction.

[silvertoken]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

It is not your desire to have an approved Dog Park that offends some. In my case, the offense comes from your statements that you have formed a club that meet with your many dogs that you consolidate into a small area directly over the fence from residents. That being in an area that is not authorized nor approved as a Dog Park under Any CODE. Yet you talk about the home owner trying to disperse your group as the aggressor in this matter. I see the resident as the true victim here, not your group, and not the Dogs.

I personally would not like a dog group gathering behind my house, being so close. This unfortunately is the only way I can form a club to get thing rolling. So far its been three months and membership is far more then I expected. As the rules state I need it to be safe, I'm failing at this unless I get the tools needed, such as a dog park so rules will be enforced.

[silvertoken]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

It is not your desire to have an approved Dog Park that offends some. In my case, the offense comes from your statements that you have formed a club that meet with your many dogs that you consolidate into a small area directly over the fence from residents. That being in an area that is not authorized nor approved as a Dog Park under Any CODE. Yet you talk about the home owner trying to disperse your group as the aggressor in this matter. I see the resident as the true victim here, not your group, and not the Dogs.

You are absolutely correct.

[Peachie]

Originally Posted by silvertoken

Florida has different laws regarding this. There have been many issues regarding the radiation. When I took my Ham Radio exam 30 mhz posed a threat. As with power lines the closer the lines are to the power station the more lethal. That is why some States have a zone restriction.

Silver, this isn't about the radiation... this is about the liability.

If that child is injured because of known activity allowed by the electric company on the electric company right-of-way, the electric company would be liable, correct? What liability would the electric company have if someone would twist or break an ankle from a small indentation in this area while having their animal relieve itself? The area should be contained and fenced by the electric company with no-trespassing signs posted, IMHO.

[Rondosbullet]

This area is behind homes on West Schwartz Blvd on the "Historic Side".
The homes have very tiny yards that go to the chain link fence that separates Stone Crest from the Villages. These are also mostly small homes.
The objection seems to be that the folks congregate behind the homes with their golf carts and lose dogs right against the fence which is practically in their yards. This can be quite a crowd especially when the Snow Birds join in. The conversations, laughter , barking dogs, squeaky toys, whistling to call said lose dogs, etc. especially around dinner time is more then annoying. And it causes dogs in those homes to start to bark in response to the noise which then becomes irritating to the home owners and neighbors. Male dogs urinate against the chain link fence which of course goes through the holes in the fence to the yards of Village homes.
There did not seem to be any objection when folks just walked their dogs there.

[silvertoken]

Originally Posted by Peachie

Silver, this isn't about the radiation... this is about the liability.

If that child is injured because of known activity allowed by the electric company on the electric company right-of-way, the electric company would be liable, correct? What liability would the electric company have if someone would twist or break an ankle from a small indentation in this area while having their animal relieve itself? The area should be contained and fenced by the electric company with no-trespassing signs posted, IMHO.

Stonecrest may be liable I believe.

[silvertoken]

Originally Posted by Rondosbullet

This area is behind homes on West Schwartz Blvd on the "Historic Side".
The homes have very tiny yards that go to the chain link fence that separates Stone Crest from the Villages. These are also mostly small homes.
The objection seems to be that the folks congregate behind the homes with their golf carts and lose dogs right against the fence which is practically in their yards. This can be quite a crowd especially when the Snow Birds join in. The conversations, laughter , barking dogs, squeaky toys, whistling to call said lose dogs, etc. especially around dinner time is more then annoying. And it causes dogs in those homes to start to bark in response to the noise which then becomes irritating to the home owners and neighbors. Male dogs urinate against the chain link fence which of course goes through the holes in the fence to the yards of Village homes.
There did not seem to be any objection when folks just walked their dogs there.

I have personally asked permission to the homeowners and some are very pleased to have our group. Please understand the reason is shade. Trees are abundent along the fence line.

[JB in TV]

Originally Posted by Rondosbullet

This area is behind homes on West Schwartz Blvd on the "Historic Side".
The homes have very tiny yards that go to the chain link fence that separates Stone Crest from the Villages. These are also mostly small homes.
The objection seems to be that the folks congregate behind the homes with their golf carts and lose dogs right against the fence which is practically in their yards. This can be quite a crowd especially when the Snow Birds join in. The conversations, laughter , barking dogs, squeaky toys, whistling to call said lose dogs, etc. especially around dinner time is more then annoying. And it causes dogs in those homes to start to bark in response to the noise which then becomes irritating to the home owners and neighbors. Male dogs urinate against the chain link fence which of course goes through the holes in the fence to the yards of Village homes.
There did not seem to be any objection when folks just walked their dogs there.

I hesitate to get involved in this thread, but...

As I see this...Silvertoken has tried to create a reason (harazrd?) to force Stonecrest to decide to create a dog park for his club...And is asking for TOTV help in this quest. What other reason would there be for this club to congregate behind these homes?

[bkcunningham1]

Silvertoken, why don't you walk your dogs on your own properties until you get this resolved? Or why not join the Doggie Doo Run in Oxford or the dog park off of Rolling Acres?

There are many solutions that don't involve allowing your dogs to use the bathroom against someone's property. I agree with others who have said the victims in this are the property owners in The Villages who are subjected to your dogs against their back fence line.

Why not take turns walking your dogs in each club member's yard? If two or three of you are neighbors, you could have a big area to walk the dogs.

[silvertoken]

My proposed area would be away from homes and out of sight. As shown on this map is the site I proposed. No harm to the residence, or the dogs

[silvertoken]

[quote=bkcunningham1;682051]Silvertoken, why don't you walk your dogs on your own properties until you get this resolved? Or why not join the Doggie Doo Run in Oxford or the dog park off of Rolling Acres?

There are many solutions that don't involve allowing your dogs to use the bathroom against someone's property. I agree with others who have said the victims in this are the property owners in The Villages who are subjected to your dogs against their back fence line.
. It has parking, water and bathrooms nearby and is acceptable by the POA.

[bkcunningham1]

Really? This is interesting, silvertoken. You already have 50 dogs and some 80 people involved. How many more do you need? And your POA has approved your club walking the dogs along the fence line of the residents of The Villages?

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