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Old 04-27-2025, 07:13 AM
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When I was in high school enjoying cars and working at a local Chevy/Buick dealership, I would never think twice about owning any car except from GM.
All 5 makes where the holy grail of the auto industry.

Well GM, today you can go to hell with all your producing expensive junk,
then convince the public to buy into it, then today, recall 80% of everything you make.

Remember when the word Cadillac could be used in the same sentence as Lexas?

Also, if Corvettes, (the only reliable car from GM) where smart, they would break away from GM and become their own company.

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My 2010 Malibu is still in the family with 160,000+ miles, has yet to burn a quart of oil.

My ‘07 HHR was still running strong and reliable at 140,000 miles when I traded it for a 2017 Subaru Forester. The HHR had become too small. I switched brands because the sales people at Nahas Chevy were as crooked as a dog’s hind leg. Liars.
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:23 AM
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Check the Comsumer Reports and J.D. Power Car Value & Ratings.

Your expensive foreign makes, Audi, BMW. Mercedes, etc. are terrible for frequence of repairs and dependability.

Did I mention expensive.
I'm driving my 4th Mercedes, a 2011 ML SUV, I got my first one in 1975. Yes they are expensive to buy and maintain, but life it too short to drive ordinary cars.
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:25 AM
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GM is cutting their own throat. They have discontinued a lot of good cars under the guise of building all electric cars. The CEO has to go as she has no clue what people want. I have always been a GM guy. I have owned many Gm cars. I currently own a 2015 Impala and a 1994 Corvette. I have owned 3 Impalas and this one is the best. So what does GM do they decided to stop making them. GM has gone way down hill. Who would have of thought that out of all the great cars they have made in the past the one that outlasted is the Buick. The cars they make now are all SUVs and some of them are garbage.
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:30 AM
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I was a GM customer for most of my adult life, along with a fair share of imports. Just before I retired, I purchased a new 2022 Chevy Silverado Z71. It was a very nice and comfortable truck that had a pampered life with me. However, the transmission's torque converter failed at just 29,000 miles! After the repairs were completed, I traded it in for a Lexus GX. I doubt I will return as a GM customer.
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:45 AM
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Owned a Prius, three of them, and they were all hybrids, terrific car and got about 55 miles to the gallon on my runs from NJ to FL. Don’t do that run anymore but have a Camry which has the Prius technology. Great car. A little heavier and quieter and a but more comfortable than the Prius. Very happy with this vehicle but wish it had the cool look they gave the new Prius. A keeper, I have had terrific luck with the hybrids.
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:48 AM
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I was strictly GM and Ford guy couple Mopars till around 2012. Have Honda now which has be one of most reliable cars I’ve owned compared to my 71 Torino GT. Agree GM and ford had lost they way. Who puts water pump in side crank case timing chain cover? Todays care are too much computer controlled won’t last depending on environment. Who builds vehicles computer programming when backup camera goes out the vehicle dead. IMO a big three went down hill around 1973. Early 80s was disaster. Been trying to recover ever since IMO.
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:49 AM
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Been driving camrys for many years find them very reliable. Have a 2021 now and very happy.

Rumor has it they will only sell as hybrid in future that might give me a reason to go elsewhere.
No worries there. I had a 2008 Camry hybrid. I drove it, then my daughter….on to the grandson. We finally sold it in 2023 with 173k miles. The original hybrid batteries were still great.
Toyotas are the workhorse of the industry.
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I'm driving my 4th Mercedes, a 2011 ML SUV, I got my first one in 1975. Yes they are expensive to buy and maintain, but life it too short to drive ordinary cars.
Totally agree. If I could afford it, I'd have two Jags. One to drive while the other's in the shop. It's a Jaguar joke and very apt. It'd be twins of this: Access Denied

To fully restore it'd be around $50K including a new straight 6 engine. Plus I'd change the exterior color - one would be British Racing Green (a British Motors color) and the other would be burgundy.

Good luck with the US ever making such a sleek, delicious, decadent, delightful vehicle. Corvettes are tacky. They're "look at me I have a fancy car!" while Jags are "I'm too awesome to care if you look at me or not"

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I liked the Geo Metro many years ago, but they dropped that line. I always wanted to buy American, but GM never cared about fuel efficiency. I had a diesel Rabbit, which I fit into comfortably. The diesel Golf that followed seemed reliable. Finally, I went for the Toyota Prius and have not been disappointed. I have a 2020 Prius that gets up to 70 MPG. That line only seems to get better.
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I owned 2 gm trucks over 40 years ago. They have nothing exciting, not even the corvette. The only other American built car/truck I’ve owned was the newer ford f-150, which is the best truck ever made, if you need a truck. But it had a fatal problem where it just stopped at anytime at any speed and they wouldn’t do a class wide recall so we got rid of it.
We’ve been a Nissan car family and buy a new 1 almost every 2 years: 7 z’s, 7 maximas, 2 pathfinders, 2 xterras. Have also owned multiple audi sports cars, and multiple Porsches.
I’ve only owned 3 cars that I held long enough to buy tires for, normally they would be traded in before they need tires.
As for the future, probably less Nissans but more German autos.
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Old 04-27-2025, 08:42 AM
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With CVTs and turbochargers, don't count on newer models to have the same longevity as in the past. Also the repairs will be much more expensive and they will require more maintenance as well as be less forgiving of poor driving habits.
Why you shouldn’t get a CVT transmission
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktdgRxBoKMM
Here’s Why Turbos Suck - YouTube
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Old 04-27-2025, 08:42 AM
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My first Toyota was a 1966 Corolla. A POS. First head gasket blew then the oil light came on. Replaced the sender switch then the oil pump. Then the main and rod bearings. Then the crankshaft broke in two. Bought a Ford Mustang. Had two Toyotas in the 2000’s. Both were Prius’s. Good cars.
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Old 04-27-2025, 09:08 AM
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I have had many Toyotas (Tundras, tacomas, forerunners) over the years, Mrs. EDJ currently has a Rav-4 that replaced her Avalon. All have run like sewing machines and required only standard maintenance. One I had over 17 years.

I really like that they not only hold their value pretty well, but they do not over-think on your behalf. Like the earlier poster mentioned about the "feature" that allows Fords, etc. to stop and turn off at an intersection. Not only does that annoy the crap out of me, but the A/C or heater stops during that "stopped" periods.

Had a few German cars. One BMW 5-series blew a thermostat break and the radiator blow up in the In-N-Out drive thru. Bought a brand new Mercedes E-500 with the new body style in 2002. It was about $70,000. Four years later, I could barely get $14,000 for it. I will never buy a German death wagon ever again.

Currently have an F-150. Too many electronics, does too much thinking for me. I can decide when to put the recirculating air on and off in the cabin, thank you. I can decide when I do or do not want high beams on, thank you. Also, just outside of warranty, the trick-wazoo power tailgate blew. They want $1,100 to fix it. For a thousand-plus dollars I'll open and close my own tailgate, thank you.

It's going to get sold and I'm going back to Toyota.
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I own an Acura MDX and it is a nice driving car, but last year it had two recalls, one was that the engine might fail and the other was that the fuel pump might fail. They said just park the car because they didn’t have any parts to correct the problems.
They finally inspected and corrected the problems about a year later , after more government scrutiny I might add. The service was handled well (finally) , but not exactly what one would expect from Acura.
I think the days of buying a car with no recalls or maintenance problems (as most of my previous cars from different manufacturers) are over.
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Check the Comsumer Reports and J.D. Power Car Value & Ratings.

Your expensive foreign makes, Audi, BMW. Mercedes, etc. are terrible for frequence of repairs and dependability.

Did I mention expensive.
My 2005 Audi 4A was ridiculously breakable. Worst car I ever owned in terms of repairs. I mean... when was the last time your windshield wiper motor burned out? That's just one example of the crazy things that broke on that car.
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