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Old 10-05-2024, 07:00 AM
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There are so many ponds that are very low. Why not dump it there?
That’s why they are low water is being removed……
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Old 10-05-2024, 07:12 AM
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That’s why they are low water is being removed……
Why close a revenue earning course if there is room in the retention ponds?

It would be nice if the district or the developer would explain.
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Old 10-05-2024, 07:37 AM
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Why close a revenue earning course if there is room in the retention ponds?

It would be nice if the district or the developer would explain.
This is not complicated.

Ponds are really water impoundment areas. They collect and hold water. A huge % of that water is directed to the ponds, via swales and piping. The water (rainfall) gets to the ponds faster than just relying on mother nature (grading). That's how the system is designed.

Water (rain or irrigation) that's dumped on reasonably flat terrain, infiltrates (is absorbed) until the ground saturates and surface water occurs. The surface water will eventually get infiltrated or flow to the water impoundment areas.

Think of it as a barn with a leaky roof. You have a bucket under the leak, to catch the water that leaks through the roof. If you hear there's a big storm coming, what do you do? The first thing you do, is empty the bucket, so it can hold more water. You dump the existing bucket of water on the round and let it be absorbed, then you put the bucket back under the leak.

That is what's going on. All the "buckets" are being dumped on the golf course, in the hopes that most of it will be absorbed by the ground before the rain hits and the buckets will be empty and ready to catch more water (rain).
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Old 10-05-2024, 07:53 AM
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They are anticipating that system in the gulf at 90% chance of hurricane coming across Florida. Lots of rain.
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Old 10-05-2024, 07:54 AM
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I played Longleaf yesterday and the starter told us they were closing today along with Loblolly for the upcoming storm. She didn't know why they were closing so early but guessed they were going to run the sprinklers 24-7 to lower the ponds.

She also told us that Southern Oaks was closing after the tournament this morning and thought for the same reason.
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Old 10-05-2024, 08:08 AM
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I don't golf, but if this is true why flood one of three courses South of 44 as opposed to the North? Another example of less for more.
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Old 10-05-2024, 08:22 AM
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I don't golf, but if this is true why flood one of three courses South of 44 as opposed to the North? Another example of less for more.
Maybe they expect more rain south of 44??
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Old 10-05-2024, 08:24 AM
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I don't golf, but if this is true why flood one of three courses South of 44 as opposed to the North? Another example of less for more.
The storm water management systems south of 44 and the Turnpike are not connected to the northern systems.
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Old 10-05-2024, 08:29 AM
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They are anticipating that system in the gulf at 90% chance of hurricane coming across Florida. Lots of rain.
But the system has not even formed as of this morning. On top of that, the path of the storm has not even been determined. It could hit Texas for all we know.
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Old 10-05-2024, 08:36 AM
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[QUOTE=kkingston57;2376126]With the amount of growth in Central Florida wonder if anyone thought about creating a large lake/reservoir in the area. Played Mallory yesterday and at highest point of the course, ground was saturated and it was clear that water had been pumped there. There is a thing about having too much water.[/

There’s a lot of lakes in central Florida.
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Looks like we may be getting record rain next week!!


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Old 10-05-2024, 08:41 AM
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Don’t believe they flood the course just run the sprinklers all day.
I agree, they drained the ponds a few years ago in anticipation of a big storm that we never got. Our dry period is when….Nov, Dec ?

We went into that spring with really low water levels in the ponds. Don’t think they’ll make that mistake again.

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I don't golf, but if this is true why flood one of three courses South of 44 as opposed to the North? Another example of less for more.
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The storm water management systems south of 44 and the Turnpike are not connected to the northern systems.
Exactly right. Every drainage system for a given development area, is self-contained. As additional development areas are added to The Villages, the drainage system expands to include the new catchment area, but there's minimal interaction between the "before" & "after".

It would be a rare circumstance to re-visit a previously designed drainage system or move additional water (drainage) back into an area that's already been designed, implemented and presumably at close to maximum capacity.
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But the system has not even formed as of this morning. On top of that, the path of the storm has not even been determined. It could hit Texas for all we know.
We'd probably rather have low ponds than flooded homes.

The forecast models are merging into agreement.

The rain that hit the Carolina's was forecast by the major storm models 5 days before it happened.

Mike's Weather Page does a nice job of analyzing the various storm models.



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First run of Hurricane models on tropicaltidbits.com. Not a forecast.

These are right more than wrong with intensity. Tracks are usually close.

Impacts could be significant if these verify. Not just coastal but inland towards the east coast too. Lots to watch with Invest 92.

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Old 10-05-2024, 09:28 AM
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But the system has not even formed as of this morning. On top of that, the path of the storm has not even been determined. It could hit Texas for all we know.
Better to be preemptive. Waiting until the storms path is more certain very well might be too late. What is a shame is that there aren’t enough courses in that particular area to spread the water around without flooding a single course.
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