Kinda what the Nazi's did after Extraterrestrials visited Germany. Unfortunately the tech was split with Communists

One thing is for sure...a million years from now the cenozoic period will be found to have greater advances than the dinosaurs, even though there are dinosaurs on this forum

Well have been wondering about your strange behaviour

That would be a 10 space DOG night.

What’s wrong with the moon? It’s closer so we can visit earth for the holidays

Possessed by aliens huh. Have to ask my wife what she thinks

Yes, but no global warming on the horizon :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Don't forget Velcro...

"The Teflon trademark was registered in 1945 by Kinetic Chemicals, a DuPont partnership with General Motors"

Much like a lawyer in court never ask your significant other a question unless you sure of the answer

The moon doesn't have a system, built by aliens, ready to be activated, which will instantly provide an atmosphere, like Mars does. Come on, man! These are easy questions.

Actually they did but built it on the other side of the moon to keep it hidden

I have been a space exploration and science fiction buff since I was a wee lad. I am SO disappointed in the future we have come to. Where are my space plane rides to huge, rotating-wheel space stations, my weekend jaunts to cities on the Moon, my science outposts on Mars, my manned exploration of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn and more? Heck, where are my flying cars? Not only has 2001: A Space Odyssey let me down but even The Jetsons let me down.

Since folks largely turned their back on travel to the Moon after the Apollo missions, I have felt that the only thing keeping us back was our will to go. Our technology was there, or nearly there, to do all those thingsI mentioned earlier. Everything I read from other space enthusiasts only convinced me further.

But then I started reading A City On Mars by Kelly & Zach Weinersmith. Wowsers. These folks are space enthusiasts like I am but have an understanding of the actual science that is far greater than mine and they have looked at things not with the dewy-eyed enthusiasm of fans like me but with hard-nosed pragmatism and objective reality. Not only am I no longer convinced that we are capable of all of those fanciful things I mention above with technologies, I am also not entirely convinced that we will ever have the technology to do so. That is really depressing for me.

That said, I'm still a space exploration and science fiction buff and hope we will continue with our near-earth manned missions for the great science they do, the inspiration they provide and the shining example of international cooperation they provide. And I'm still gonna read my sci-fi!

Read Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson. Great sci-fi book!

I always enjoy sci / fi movies like "Dune part one" with its high tech scenes. Movies like that are good for the imagination. I prefer to see the movies BEFORE reading the book (probably the opposite of most people). That is what I did with "The Expanse", which I liked very much. In reality, I never expected to see colonies of people on the moon or Mars in my lifetime. But, there has been plenty of scientific change.

Should earthlings travel to other worlds? Of course!
It is who we are. It's what we do. Explore!.

Russia is in Europe and Asia. China is in Asia. This was taught in elementary school not long ago.

Think of how far technology has come in the past 100 years and I am confident we will be able to travel far into space.

However unless we are able to figure out warp speed engines we will be limited to just a few planets.

What for? So you can live in a big metal dumpster?
Why not live in a big dumpster on the moon first?

And what about costs and upkeep? Physics sucks.

Yes, but all those problems will be solved after the Vulcans make first contact:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Comparing
 

As a young adult I watched Space 1999, the Jetsons and Star Trek. They lied.

You missed the point of TwoBills comment. There are no Euro Asian countries, there is only Europe and Asia. TwoBills is as British as it is possible to be, I imagine he was a might annoyed at the ignorance of the first statement.

All fiction is lies! Is that your kernel of truth?

Don't you mean, life sucks? After all, if you weren't alive, you wouldn't have any concerns about dumpsters, expenses, or physics.

They were already here laughed at what they saw and left. Only the resident alien is still here.

Lol
 

No, more or less the dreams of the past woven in with great literature such as Fahrenheit 451 etc. There is nothing wrong with dreams and hope though. Perhaps my grandchildren will have a much clearer view of space travel and Warp engines. I do know there are a couple of decent papers on compressing and expanding distances.

But does he live in the Village of Stu?

LOL chilout

Elon Musk is a Vulcan... Asperger's is just another con.

I prefer to think physical reality sucks :) Reality doesn't care about mysticism, wishful thinking or BioLife.

They are separated by the Urals (?)

Instead of living in a pressurized dumpster (one little pinhole or "glitch" and everyone dies) on Mars or the moon, why not live on a cruise ship like the Icon of the Sea? It is a FAR better idea at FAR lower cost and FAR less dangerous with FAR better amenities.

Seriously...Why would anyone fantasize about living on Mars? Not even Elon Musk does that. It would be like fantasizing about living in a Boeing 747 flying at an altitude of 250 million miles :)

Reruns:shrug:

All good till that rouge wave hits.

NASA procurment
 

NASA has a completely different set of procurement regs, and is not forced to go with low bid. I was in procurement for the DOJ and found NASA's regs very interesting.







QUOTE=mtdjed;2305481]And we have a broken Lander after 59 years of progress. How would you like to see that if you were on the Mars lander? Once was in attendance to a session with an astronaut. I recall his comment regarding confidence in mission success. He made a comment relating to hard to be 100% when all of the parts were made by the lowest bidder.[/QUOTE]

He's disguised as a Vulcan. Elon is actually a Romulan. Don't trust him.

Love obscure references like #2! Favorite line from that movie, "Consider that a divorce"!

I think explorers should explore every corner of our universe, so long as they do it on their own dime. I might even chip in, if it was voluntary and I got a cut of whatever they find.

But I've never quite understood the logic of colonizing a planet with an unbreathable Co2 atmosphere, and no water, that's bombarded by deadly radiation, and colder than Antarctica. For crying out loud, the entire continent of Antarctica is right there, just 12,000 miles away! You can breath the air, and even walk around outside without radiation poisoning, and if you get thirsty, you can just break off a chunk and melt it!

But I can't think of a better place for a Global Warming fanatic to escape to than Mars. I hope they all catch the next rocket out.

No exploration is ever accomplished on their own dime. Everyone reaps the benefits through advancements in all fields. If Columbus hadn't had help from the Spanish crown, where would we be today, I wonder?
As for living on Mars, terra-forming can grow plants to create an atmosphere that will alter the temperature, etc. Where there is a will, there is a way.

True, but it's the best we have within 4.1 light years :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

And may I suggest the number one first pick to go?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: