[Reiver]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Let me know how your AR-15 does when the M1Abrams shows up.

You'll be the first one anyone calls, if that happens.

https://i.imgur.com/pqoR7r2.jpg

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

https://www.amazon.com/TIME-LIFE-His.../dp/1683304314

The weapons Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton, Franklin, and others considered as "arms" are far different from the arms of 2022.

Arms that could be used by a militia to repel or overthrow a strong armed government. Modern arms only match up proportionally. Same thing.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Normal

Arms that could be used by a militia to repel or overthrow a strong armed government. Modern arms only match up proportionally. Same thing.

Since the government has Nukes, cruise missiles, drones, sidewinders, and M1Abrams people should have those too in order to "take back the government" ?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Normal

Arms that could be used by a militia to repel or overthrow a strong armed government. Modern arms only match up proportionally. Same thing.

I view the National Guard as what the Founding Fathers meant as to a well regulated militia. And the gunpowder, artillery, etc., for this militia would be kept under lock-and-keys.

The individual private citizens would become members of this militia. And would use the arms they use for hunting and defending themselves against natural threats like bears, wolves, etc., and Native Americans on the war path.

Wolves were hunted pretty much out of existence in New England.

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[Normal]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Since the government has Nukes, cruise missiles, drones, sidewinders, and M1Abrams people should have those too in order to "take back the government" ?

Ya, we never will get nukes. But deterrence is important too. Of course speaking of wolves, they are one of the few instances where a large capacity semiautomatic rifle is needed. When a pack tries to take down a head of cattle, ranchers are happy to have several shots available.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jebartle

Sooo, if not war related, or mass murder, one would ask, why own semi-automatic, obliterating watermelons maybe????

Home defense, I don’t want to get killed just cause I ran out 6 pack.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by keepsake

And none of the founding father or any founders, lived in Florida in the summer.

Oh YEAH, well what about, no, you are correct. Nevermind.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Reiver

You'll be the first one anyone calls, if that happens.

https://i.imgur.com/pqoR7r2.jpg

Great article. It is fine if a person or group want to give up their rights, it is a problem when they want to give up other peoples rights as well.

[justjim]

I have owned guns most of my life primarily to hunt and target shoot with my Dad and a few close friends. When Dad passed and I retired, I retired my hunting guns and moved to Florida. Golf is my primary hobby and I love the game but it sure would have been nice if he had bought me a set of golf clubs along with that BB gun and first shotgun. I still have a couple of personal guns at home that actually belonged to my Dad and a close friend. We never had any thoughts or discussions about having any gun to protect us from “the Government”. That just seems “weird” to me but to each his own. Fore

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by midiwiz

already did before you posted it, that was the original intent..

You are right. This post was meant to further divide people. Why do the admins permit it? I'd rather have no restrictions, but...

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Since the government has Nukes, cruise missiles, drones, sidewinders, and M1Abrams people should have those too in order to "take back the government" ?

So, what you are saying is that everyone should be a lemming, chicken, or whatever wimpy character that illustrates "coward" and just hope that the gov knows what is best for us. That is without question, right? So, instead of showing any kind of resistance, one should just cower and plead for mercy? Sorry, but in my America we protect ourselves and our own and do not cotton bullying. Just because someone has an opinion, based on ignorance does not mean the majority needs to suffer their weakness. If folks expect a cop to be there to protect them, then they are also ignorant of the Cop's role in our country. COPs will take your report AFTER the crime is committed. If their mere presence prevents a crime, great. Sorry, but there are not enough police to go around. If you are scared of guns, then don't purchase one. But, don't presume to make that decision for others.
I am more worried about a mentally challenged person wielding a hammer as a weapon than a gun. If he has a gun, then I can use lethal force to disable him. With a hammer, there may be a question of whether or not lethal force was necessary.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Home defense, I don’t want to get killed just cause I ran out 6 pack.

Can you define what you mean by semi-automatic?

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

And if there is massive unrest caused by Covid, fuel shortages, food shortages, or war (think Ukraine), climate change, etc., should people be allowed to defend themselves?

Other than revolvers and some shotguns, aren't the vast majority of guns semi auto?

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Some of the founders did. Not all. Eisenhower wanted us about the military industrial complex, we should have listened.

So now Eisenhower is a founding father?

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Well, I could say the opposite is true, since we are the country with massive numbers of guns and we are the country with all the gun related deaths. It seems the rest of the world doesn't have that problem.

Maybe it is just because all Americans are crazy?

Not all are crazy, but fortunately there are ways to tell. Like many birds use colorful feathers to attract mates, or fish use bright colors to signify danger, stay away from me, humans have evolved as well. Dangerous humans tend to have green or some other oddly colored hair.