[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

All true, but not because we can't, but because a group has been trying to "starve the beast" since the 1950's.

And at this point, there is no way to collect all the guns, so with ONLY 400 million in circulation no matter what we do right now, it is not going to be peaceful anytime soon. And there is a good chance, some want more violence - I know Putin will be thrill to watch us kill each other.

Well, Australia found a way to collect all the semi-auto rifles. I saw a TV clip in the 80s of rifles on a conveyor belt going to a shredder. Then their MASS MURDERS dropped to about zero. So, I know that it can be done........and Australia is a lot like the US. And Canada is planning to ban all pistols and military-style semi-automatic rifles. I will be curious to see HOW they do it.
........."starve the beast" means to decrease the size of state and federal government. For what purpose? So, that the rich top 10% can pay lower taxes and eat more caviar while the middle and lower classes ACTUALLY ARE the BEASTS that get starved.........often literally! As the classes struggle against one another, America becomes weaker and less patriotic. And RUSSIA loves it!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Farmers have repeatedly tried to hire American's to do the field work, and they typically last a day or two. You are right. Who will work the fields. But, the good news is, if not no one does the prices of food will skyrocket, and well, all the people here will have more things to bitch about.

Legal US citizens would do hard work IF (and only if) they are adequately paid. Also, safe working conditions are necessary. Many farm employers get greedy and take advantage of their illegal workers by paying them lower than US citizens will work for and exposing them to unnecessarily dangerous and unhealthy conditions.
..........The employers are the problem, not the potential workers!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

If you are interested in real information about AI and its impact on the labor force, I highly recommend Stanford University's HAI program. You can go to their site or just go to Youtube and search. It is an international program that discusses current events and trends and predictions on when and where and how much various employment positions will be affected.

It also has discussions with leaders in major employment industries on what can be done to minimize the impact on existing employees.

LOTS of good information, but don't look for sound bites. Most discussions are hours long.

Thanks!

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Legal US citizens would do hard work IF (and only if) they are adequately paid. Also, safe working conditions are necessary. Many farm employers get greedy and take advantage of their illegal workers by paying them lower than US citizens will work for and exposing them to unnecessarily dangerous and unhealthy conditions.
..........The employers are the problem, not the potential workers!

Well, partially. The issue is "adequately paid". Try working in the sun in southern CA or southern FL bent over for 8 hours, carrying heavy loads. It is hard physical work. Farmers would have to pay a lot more to get Americans to give up their unemployment and work the fields. The price of food would skyrocket.

On the other hand, being a liberal and being in favor of fair liberal wages, I agree with you, that the farm workers (actually everyone) should be paid better, even potentially a "living wage" for the area. Of course, there are consequences for paying higher wages, that being shoppers have to pay higher prices to cover it. BUT, for farm goods, I think I read the other day that $0.15 of every dollar of the retail price of food goes to the farmer. So, assuming farm workers make up half of the farmer's burdened cost ( and it is NOT that high ), that only comes to $0.08 per dollar retail price, doubling what the workers are paid would only increase retail food prices - or an 8% increase in food prices at the retail store. 8% is a serious increase in food costs, but it is one time and not "sky rocketing".

Sadly, most companies when faced with increased production costs pass on more than the increase to the consumer - you know might as well make a little extra - just look a the fossil fuel industry for an example.

[dewilson58]

King Rambler & Queen Rambler enjoy cutting and pasting lots of information to impress themselves...................not impressing anyone else.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by gatorbill1

you are on social media?

Why need to get rid of it we could be doing something better….

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Legal US citizens would do hard work IF (and only if) they are adequately paid. Also, safe working conditions are necessary. Many farm employers get greedy and take advantage of their illegal workers by paying them lower than US citizens will work for and exposing them to unnecessarily dangerous and unhealthy conditions.
..........The employers are the problem, not the potential workers!

They found a way round that with all the assistance programs.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

It RARELY happens in the other G-7 nations AS COMPARED to the US.

Rarely like we rarely here about it.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Who's going to do all the landscaping work then? Who will flip the burgers at the fast food joints? Also - if you <allow> people to enter, then they're not entering illegally. That is a logical fallacy. If you allow them, then they're here with permission. That makes their entry legal, not illegal.

Meanwhile, immigrants do most of the grunt work in this country, because most American citizens refuse to do it. You want tomatoes for under $8/lb? Then accept that it's probably a Mexican picking the tomato off the vine at agricultural wages (which is sub-minimum).

At least they're willing to do the work.

Allowing like ignoring immigration laws. Funny how some laws are enforced and others aren’t when it fitted agenda.

Migrant workers can get green card and have for nearly century no need to enter illegally.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

See what you did there? You just made it personal. Thanks for the personal attack, that's what people do when they lose the logical argument and try to "win" on emotion and vitriol.

Your insinuation that I eat unsalted-buttered white bread is akin to calling me a "cracker." It is a racist inference indicating you may possess a racist perspective. Perhaps reflect on that a bit before making such an opinionated and vitriolic remark. I'm here to help you self-help yourself into a better person. You're welcome.

Report her.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

It is horrible how that other person just attacked you. No one deserves to be bullied like that.

IMO couple on TOTV than never get banned

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I believe that the 2020 election was the safest in history.

Naturally you would. But I bet have different view on 2016 right.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Nope.

Home owner is going to be nervous & scared.......not going to be aiming the best......15 shots will do a much better job. Just like police, keep shooting until the bad guy is down.

Nope I only need 1 shot. Besides bolt action rifle not good home defense weapon. Shotgun works much better.

Police don’t keep pumping round now they will be charged with excessive force and murder.

[CRUZN]

Originally Posted by jebartle

tulsa, ok, hospital, 4 killed.....what is the answer to these killings

intensive screenings, raise the age to purchase a gun, no sale of assult weapons (use only for law enforcement and military)

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by CRUZN

intensive screenings, raise the age to purchase a gun, no sale of assult weapons (use only for law enforcement and military)

assault weapons are not for sale now, assault-style weapons are for sale

significant difference