[Bay Kid]

What is making people going so crazy this year in our country. Could it be??? Our country has lost all morals. Lies are the norm. Police are bad. Druggies are heroes. Legal drugs are over used. God is bad. And so on and on.

[ElDiabloJoe]

It is interesting to note the multiple references to "G-7 Countries." Why be so selective? While it is true that the U.S. seems to hold the vast majority of mass incidents, let's not pretend they have not occurred in Canada, France, Finland, Norway, Brazil, Etc. either.

It is notable that the U.S. culture creates the globe's majority of mass media and direct-injects (some would call brainwashes) violent video games, Hollywood movies, T.V. shows, and "gangster" style music imagery and lyrics directly into hormone-bathed American teen-aged brains.

However, no one is taking Blizzard Entertainment, MGM, or Sony to task for these mass casualty incidents. I wonder why the focus is on the darling of the right, the hated item of the left - the firearm?

Here's the list:

Timeline of Worldwide School and Mass Shootings

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

A 5 round magazine in a bolt action would be enough for hunting and home defense.

Yeah right. If you miss with your first shot, any home invader would be upon you before you could cycle your second. Where as if you had a semiautomatic pistol you could fire off 10 rounds. Even if you missed it would give even the most hardened criminal reason to pause. I can’t believe you post this stuff.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Woodbear

Guns have nothing to do with the problem. Did you blame Uhaul for the Oklahoma City Bombing? Was Porsche responsible for Paul Pelosi driving drunk and causing an accident. The shooter was the only person responsible

Next they’ll want to ban the knife and fork in order to stop obesity.

[MartinSE]

I am glad everyone is having so much fun - knives and forks are next, et al. Kind of reminds me of Nero fiddling while Rome burned.

I sincerely hope your grandchildren are not next on the hit list parade.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

I am glad everyone is having so much fun - knives and forks are next, et al. Kind of reminds me of Nero fiddling while Rome burned.

I sincerely hope your grandchildren are not next on the hit list parade.

Do you really think that posting hundreds of times on a community forum is going to change anything? It might make you feel better but it accomplishes nothing. If you truly want to make a difference and do more than just preach, why aren’t you standing in the doorway of your representative’s office? Maybe start a foundation for the elimination of gun violence and lobby the powers that be. But no, you’d rather be here lecturing us.

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Do you really think that posting hundreds of times on a community forum is going to change anything? It might make you feel better but it accomplishes nothing. If you truly want to make a difference and do more than just preach, why aren’t you standing in the doorway of your representative’s office? Maybe start a foundation for the elimination of gun violence and lobby the powers that be. But no, you’d rather be here lecturing us.

Nothing else is working, have to start somewhere, congress is doing nothing, how many mass shootings will it take, yipsters.

[rsimpson]

Originally Posted by DonH57

Bingo !

Spot on but some in our society don't want to openly admit it.

Agree with all, but in the mean time, secure our schools.

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Do you really think that posting hundreds of times on a community forum is going to change anything? It might make you feel better but it accomplishes nothing. If you truly want to make a difference and do more than just preach, why aren’t you standing in the doorway of your representative’s office? Maybe start a foundation for the elimination of gun violence and lobby the powers that be. But no, you’d rather be here lecturing us.

Nothing else is working, have to start somewhere, congress is doing nothing, how many mass shootings will it take, yipsters. Vote these congressman OUT.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Do you really think that posting hundreds of times on a community forum is going to change anything? It might make you feel better but it accomplishes nothing. If you truly want to make a difference and do more than just preach, why aren’t you standing in the doorway of your representative’s office? Maybe start a foundation for the elimination of gun violence and lobby the powers that be. But no, you’d rather be here lecturing us.

I can't help but wonder how you KNOW for CERTAINTY what I am doing. If I mention ANYTHING I do, they you and others jump p up and scream virtual signaling.

I do NOT ever initiate hundreds of posts. I am answering or responding to hundreds of posts that I disagree with. I know it seriously upsets you to have someone post something you disagree with . I am sorry my posts upset you so much, maybe you would be happier if you blocked me?

I believe conversation can help people come to an understand of each other, but I do know that with some people they are so invested in their beliefs that don't bother to try to understand the other persons beliefs. I for one have changed a lot of my views on this topic. One for example, is I have come to believe that banning AR-15s will not significantly change the situation. My coming to that change is thanks in part to posters here that take the time to actually address the issue and say why it doesn't and won't work. I am still willing to accept banning AR-15s as a test/attempt to see how it works, but I personally no longer believe it will make a significant difference. See, that is how discussions work. If you are totally not interested in anything that anyone says that might disagree with what you believe to be true. Then why do you continue to post your one liner zingers? Just to get all the cheering from others that believe as you do? That would be sad, posting to get approval clicks while children are dying.

I see very few contributions from you that suggest what can be done, but a LOT of posts from you dis'ing other posters for quality, quality, and accuracy. Lots of "negative vibes".

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by jebartle

Nothing else is working, have to start somewhere, congress is doing nothing, how many mass shootings will it take, yipsters. Vote these congressman OUT.

Thank you, I posted the same thing, but as usual with my I took 20 times as many words as you posted so well and succinctly.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

It is interesting to note the multiple references to "G-7 Countries." Why be so selective? While it is true that the U.S. seems to hold the vast majority of mass incidents, let's not pretend they have not occurred in Canada, France, Finland, Norway, Brazil, Etc. either.

No other 1st world country has had over 20 mass shootings in past two weeks since the Texas school shooting. That is why the selective. The G-7 are most like us. Every country is different but comparing NYNY to a village in the Amazon, is not going to produce many insights into OUR problems.

Numerous studies have shown the incidence of mental illness in shooters is no higher than the general population. So, 11% of 300 million people is 33 million. Let's round it down to 15 million to element toddlers, a feeble oldsters. So, why is it that only a little over 200 of them are involved in mass shooting? I am all in favor of helping the mentally ill. I would NEVER suggest locking them away in an insane asylum (disgusting term) but would vote for funding to building state of the art mental health facilities. I would also agree to a mental health exam for fire arm licensing.

No one has said they NEVER occur in other countries. I am others have said, they do not happen at the frequency in other countries that they do here. 20 in the past 10 days. 2 School shootings per month on average. And on and on. It brings nothing to an argument to go all black and white. Everything or nothing, everyone does, or no one does.

I am 100% in favor of strongly enforced universal background checks. It will NOT solve the problem, it will help.

I am 100% in favor of cool down delays. It will NOT solve the problem, it will help.

I am 100% in favor of more stringent domestic violence punishment and being convicted of it being a reason to deny ownership of guns.

Lots of things we can do, but one party refuses to do anything.
Lots of things we can do, But one party refuses to offer any legislation.

Lots of things we CAN do, but for 20 years we have DONE nothing that has helped. It is just getting worst.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Yeah right. If you miss with your first shot, any home invader would be upon you before you could cycle your second. Where as if you had a semiautomatic pistol you could fire off 10 rounds. Even if you missed it would give even the most hardened criminal reason to pause. I can’t believe you post this stuff.

So, is arming the teacher going to help.

Let's see, if a shooter is going into a class room and knows the teacher might be packing, who are they going to unload a whole clip on before the teacher can demonstrate their precise quick draw. Of course we all know teachers would NEVER miss and hit a student. And a teacher will never have their back to the door while writing on a blackboard.

But, if that is what enough people want to try, then let's try it. I am ALL in on coming up with things that we can try. Are you?

And before we do I think it would be wise to define some criteria for success - things like how many teachers lose the quick draw contest, how many innocent students are teachers allowed to shoot before we change our minds. Just asking.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Do you really think that posting hundreds of times on a community forum is going to change anything? It might make you feel better but it accomplishes nothing. If you truly want to make a difference and do more than just preach, why aren’t you standing in the doorway of your representative’s office? Maybe start a foundation for the elimination of gun violence and lobby the powers that be. But no, you’d rather be here lecturing us.

Hate to say this but it kinda sounds like a lecture.

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Do you really think that posting hundreds of times on a community forum is going to change anything? It might make you feel better but it accomplishes nothing. If you truly want to make a difference and do more than just preach, why aren’t you standing in the doorway of your representative’s office? Maybe start a foundation for the elimination of gun violence and lobby the powers that be. But no, you’d rather be here lecturing us.

Sadly your detractors are right,,, there are people who believe that alien abduction is a reasonable explanation disappearance of that air liner in the Pacific some time back, people who believe that a Zombie Apocalypses is possible, single digits but still, an even larger percentage think you can change your gender even switch back and forth, normal behavior, the mental state of our society is such that we can no longer be trusted with weapons