[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

The small number of children who have died from Covid also had significant health issues which greatly contributed to their deaths. .

That is just not true.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

That is just not true.

The preexisting condition is often not mentioned in the initial media reports but all of the child Covid deaths that I have heard about have eventually been determined to be complicated by another serious health condition.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

The preexisting condition is often not mentioned in the initial media reports but all of the child Covid deaths that I have heard about have eventually been determined to be complicated by another serious health condition.

Many (most, all?) Covid deaths probably were complicated by another serious health condition. However, for some, the "serious health condition" was not recognized as a possible contributing factor until after the death occurred. Perhaps all the serious health conditions that contribute to Covid deaths have now been identified. It's possible. Personally, I wouldn't want to bet my child's life on that.

[Gulfcoast]

This report sums up the situation with kids and Covid:

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/20...l-data-report/

Now that there is a vaccine available for the higher risk groups, these numbers should get even better.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Many (most, all?) Covid deaths probably were complicated by another serious health condition. However, for some, the "serious health condition" was not recognized as a possible contributing factor until after the death occurred. Perhaps all the serious health conditions that contribute to Covid deaths have now been identified. It's possible. Personally, I wouldn't want to bet my child's life on that.

According to the CDC 684 Americans between 1-24 years of age have been categorized as Covid deaths. Compare that to 4,074 motor vehicle deaths per year for the same age group...
And yet you would subject them to a vaccine where the long term side effects are completely unknown...
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[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by Swoop

According to the CDC 684 Americans between 1-24 years of age have been categorized as Covid deaths. Compare that to 4,074 motor vehicle deaths per year for the same age group...
And yet you would subject them to a vaccine where the long term side effects are completely unknown...
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I believe the term is '"Covid Associated" deaths. The CDC has stated that most of the kids who died had other significant health issues.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Swoop

According to the CDC 684 Americans between 1-24 years of age have been categorized as Covid deaths. Compare that to 4,074 motor vehicle deaths per year for the same age group...
And yet you would subject them to a vaccine where the long term side effects are completely unknown...
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

Yep

[Gulfcoast]

By comparison, these are the numbers for kids and Strep A:

Surveillance for Group A Strep Disease | CDC

[Becca9800]

It's time to agree to disagree. There is no amount of fact or fiction that will sway anyone's opinion.

[Bay Kid]

And what lab did this virus start?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

They won't. The "honor system" is an absolute joke. I will continue to keep my distance as best that I can from others as I go maskless in every venue that does not require masks.

I find it interesting that only with Covid has every day lifestyle changed. I have always attempted to stay "distanced" from others. Covid is not the only illness that is contagious. And now folks are suddenly thinking of how they should "distance" themselves from others and/or continue to wear their masks, etc. I've been using the disinfectant wipes at the entrances of stores since they started them. I have distanced myself from others, a practice I started when overseas. I've been to countries where body odor was so bad that one would almost become ill in the same public transport. Illnesses in other countries are not as controlled as they are in the good ole U.S. of A. Same with hygiene.
No, I am not going to continue to wear my mask. I only wore it when required by a business, anyway. Now, the signs are being removed. I do not care whether or not others are getting the vaccination. That is their choice and it won't effect me when I am shopping. Live goes on and I have no intention of being scared/frightened into wearing a hazmat suit or hiding in my cellar until the "all clear" notice.
And yes, I do wonder if there will be any long lasting, adverse effects from the vaccination. However, I had little choice in the matter. I got it to protect my spouse, a person that I wish to share life with for as long as possible. Some folks have no one that they care enough about to warrant making reluctant choices. I get it. I am gambling that if there are adverse effects from the vaccination, that I will be long gone before they kick in.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I find it interesting that only with Covid has every day lifestyle changed. I have always attempted to stay "distanced" from others. Covid is not the only illness that is contagious. And now folks are suddenly thinking of how they should "distance" themselves from others and/or continue to wear their masks, etc. I've been using the disinfectant wipes at the entrances of stores since they started them. I have distanced myself from others, a practice I started when overseas. I've been to countries where body odor was so bad that one would almost become ill in the same public transport. Illnesses in other countries are not as controlled as they are in the good ole U.S. of A. Same with hygiene.
No, I am not going to continue to wear my mask. I only wore it when required by a business, anyway. Now, the signs are being removed. I do not care whether or not others are getting the vaccination. That is their choice and it won't effect me when I am shopping. Live goes on and I have no intention of being scared/frightened into wearing a hazmat suit or hiding in my cellar until the "all clear" notice.
And yes, I do wonder if there will be any long lasting, adverse effects from the vaccination. However, I had little choice in the matter. I got it to protect my spouse, a person that I wish to share life with for as long as possible. Some folks have no one that they care enough about to warrant making reluctant choices. I get it. I am gambling that if there are adverse effects from the vaccination, that I will be long gone before they kick in.

You are, "gambling that adverse effects from the vaccine do NOT kick in until AFTER you are dead". That is unlikely logic. That would mean that the vaccine had some kind of TIME clock embedded in it, which would switch on some nasty adverse effect after SOME (?) AMOUNT OF TIME ticked by. And you would have been LUCKY enough to be DEAD by that clock time.

I very much doubt that there will be ANY adverse effects. But, to continue with your example.......If you were to have an adverse effect, then it would likely happen while you are still alive and cause a long-term skin rash, or long-term pain, or maybe EVEN be bad enough to CAUSE your death. Either way, IF there is an adverse effect to the vaccine, it will not let you off easily by coming on AFTER you are dead. Yours was a misguided statement (like many others)!

[drducat]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

You are, "gambling that adverse effects from the vaccine do NOT kick in until AFTER you are dead". That is unlikely logic. That would mean that the vaccine had some kind of TIME clock embedded in it, which would switch on some nasty adverse effect after SOME (?) AMOUNT OF TIME ticked by. And you would have been LUCKY enough to be DEAD by that clock time.

I very much doubt that there will be ANY adverse effects. But, to continue with your example.......If you were to have an adverse effect, then it would likely happen while you are still alive and cause a long-term skin rash, or long-term pain, or maybe EVEN be bad enough to CAUSE your death. Either way, IF there is an adverse effect to the vaccine, it will not let you off easily by coming on AFTER you are dead. Yours was a misguided statement (like many others)!

What bothers me is this poll conducted the other day...Drs. are not very confident of the CDC or FDA.

Do You Trust the CDC and FDA?

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

You are, "gambling that adverse effects from the vaccine do NOT kick in until AFTER you are dead". That is unlikely logic. That would mean that the vaccine had some kind of TIME clock embedded in it, which would switch on some nasty adverse effect after SOME (?) AMOUNT OF TIME ticked by. And you would have been LUCKY enough to be DEAD by that clock time.

I very much doubt that there will be ANY adverse effects. But, to continue with your example.......If you were to have an adverse effect, then it would likely happen while you are still alive and cause a long-term skin rash, or long-term pain, or maybe EVEN be bad enough to CAUSE your death. Either way, IF there is an adverse effect to the vaccine, it will not let you off easily by coming on AFTER you are dead. Yours was a misguided statement (like many others)!

Given the fact that the odds of dying from Covid are very slim, there’s an extremely good chance you’ll be around if or when they realize the long term effects of the vaccine.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

The preexisting condition is often not mentioned in the initial media reports but all of the child Covid deaths that I have heard about have eventually been determined to be complicated by another serious health condition.

Have you reviewed all 600,000 deaths?