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xNYer 06-21-2020 08:04 AM

Crazy
 
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1788543)
McGinty had a sign on his cart “Hang Him” obvious who he was referring to. Now he’s getting a taste of his own medicine. And free speech does not mean yelling “fire” in a theater which his inflammatory signs are doing. He should be arrested for inciting to riot.

Are you freakin kidding. You can assault someone because you don’t like his sign? You are justifying criminal behavior. Where is your respect for law and order.

Joelack99 06-21-2020 08:07 AM

Not in My America
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1788537)
Ed's signs weren't inteded to provide dialogue, inform or work to any solution, they were intended to inflame and aggravate. When you do that sooner or later you put yourself in harms way.

In my country you have the right to protest any body or anything without being put in harm’s way. In my country you do NOT have the right to physically assault anyone. In my country we respect each other and will fight to the death for them to respect their views, even if we disagree.
What the hell is happening to my country?

kaniess 06-21-2020 08:11 AM

No description of the attacker's golf cart. Only that he looks Italian. This smells like a false flag operation. Trump supporters did not hijack the support the police parade.

ALadysMom 06-21-2020 08:14 AM

Why do we all buy into the presimption that the incident was as it was reported, at all?

The motivations which cause strong emotions like angry outbursts are often not what they seem.

What if they had a previous altercation that carried over? It’s very common for tragic situations to be caused by domestic disputes, for example. Maybe there was a previous fight over where a dog pooped? That seems to infuriate a lot of Villagers a lot more than cart flair does. Just sayin.

theruizs 06-21-2020 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1788508)
ya wanna be an activist ...this stuff is gonna happen

very sad that anyone was assaulted...however...no matter how flat the pancake is there is always two sides to it
....his behavior may have egged it on, no way of knowing...but just saying

if he got into someone's face, he's the one at fault...and would have escalated it...maybe he crossed the wrong person, someone
that had had a lousy breakfast and had gas and was in a bad mood to begin with....who knows for sure

no one knows what someone leaves behind when they leave the house

but I wasn't there and I'm not passing any judgment on anybody

all I can say is:

"well this is certainly a fine kettle of fish that we've gotten ourselves into Ollie, isn't it"

we are a nation divided....what should we think is going to happen when two zealots from opposite sides of the spectrum come head to head?

Not sure what you mean by “got into someone’s face” but words are never an excuse for violence. I understand that words can provoke, but the one who resorts to actual violence puts themselves in the wrong.

ChickenDinner 06-21-2020 08:20 AM

Is that how you would feel if it was you attached? Maybe the attacker had gas!

karostay 06-21-2020 08:20 AM

Suburbia culture infiltrates the Villages it was only a matter of time
Friendliest home town....Yea right

Scorpyo 06-21-2020 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1788564)
This is The Villages. Given today's climate, he's lucky he wasn't shot. There's no excuse for this behavior and the assailant should be prosecuted. No one SHOULD be assaulted for poor judgement. On the other hand, which one of us would consider walking into a BLM "protest" with a sign that states "the police are just doing their job", or "white lives matter"? I think we all know the result of that lapse in judgement as well.

I agree - the assailant should be prosecuted. My only question is who was the assailant? I've heard a lot of speculation. Actually the first post should have started with "Allegedly" but I guess rush-to-judgement is the order of the day. I am, however, going to test your theory. Tonight I'm going to go down to metro Atlanta wearing my MAGA hat and Blue Lives Matter t-shirt. I'll let you know tomorrow how it all works out. I'm sure I'll get lots of complements.

iht2209 06-21-2020 08:22 AM

Similar to a tv personality we all know

ALadysMom 06-21-2020 08:24 AM

What? No video?

Don5154 06-21-2020 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DecaturFargo (Post 1788584)
Read the story. McGinty did nothing wrong.

And that’s McGinty’s side of the story.....camera’s will tell the complete story

tophcfa 06-21-2020 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimchristie (Post 1788647)
The problem is that he isn't just protesting. He is purposely being very antagonistic with outrageous and absurd signs. He is encouraging confrontations. It would be fine if he or anyone else simply used signs to show who they support or even the "Dump Trump" kind of signs but when you put huge signs with extremely derogatory statements, you are asking for trouble.

If someone kicks a hornets nest enough times, eventually they are going to get stung.

zonerboy 06-21-2020 08:36 AM

I continue to be amazed at what people describe as “peaceful protesting” these days.

ALadysMom 06-21-2020 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1788475)
Ed McGinty, who is known as an anti-Trump protester, was physically attacked by one of the Trump supporters who hijacked the Blue Lives Matter parade, near Sumter Landing today. His picture was on Facebook, and showed him to be battered and bleeding. McGinty was on his way to his daily protest, and from the sounds of it was not at the actual parade. The attack took place near the Sumter Landing Winn Dixie.

This is outrageous and is a black stain on Florida's Friendliest Hometown. Whether you like his views or not, he certainly has a right to protest, and to face physical violence in this manner is just frightening. He has also received threatening letters. What is the matter with these people?

This contains a lot of assumptions. may be the attacker was not from TV so McGinty’s political views were not “well-known” to him. No one has been CONVICTED so the perpetrator’s political affiliation (if he has any) should not be assumed either. The perpetrator may not have even been aware there was a BLM parade since others have said it was not in this area so perhaps he didn’t hijack the Blue Lives Matter parade...whatever that means.

Calling anything a “black stain” is ridiculously hypocritical for anyone purporting to care about racial equality.

This thread should be deleted since it is deeply flawed.

collector0915 06-21-2020 08:38 AM

Violence solves nothing. Let's show our views at the polls.

wpersons35@yahoo.com 06-21-2020 08:38 AM

This is totally horrible. People should be allowed to protest without fear of being attacked. Shame on whoever did this.

LowOnCash 06-21-2020 08:42 AM

Sort of funny - Trump supporters get beat up daily and no one reports it or cares, but when the other side gets beat up its headline news!

GoodLife 06-21-2020 08:43 AM

I am, however, going to test your theory. Tonight I'm going to go down to metro Atlanta wearing my MAGA hat and Blue Lives Matter t-shirt. I'll let you know tomorrow how it all works out. I'm sure I'll get lots of complements.

I said the same thing up thread. :coolsmiley:

GOLFER54 06-21-2020 08:47 AM

Maybe he beat himself up, to get sympathy.

Taltarzac725 06-21-2020 08:48 AM

I was at Winn-Dixie yesterday for Father's Day shopping for a london broil around 3:30 PM. They have very good meats there.

One thing. I am not sure all the parts of the Winn-Dixie parking lot have cameras on them. Would need more information on where in the parking lot this happened.

I did see a group of Democrats on Buena Vista Blvd when driving home. The Blue Life Matters parade had ended as I was driving home around 4:25 PM.

This quote is from the other site--

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The Village of Hadley resident said he was driving through the Winn-Dixie parking lot at Lake Sumter Landing when a man jumped out of his cart and confronted him. He said the man, who he described as possibly Italian, about 5-foot-11-inches tall and heavy set, grabbed him by the throat and pulled him from his golf cart, which was sporting a sign that said, “Biden Will Kick Trump’s Fat Ass.” He said he reacted by punching the man in the nose and several other men jumped in and pulled them apart.

GrayFox1 06-21-2020 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1788475)
Ed McGinty, who is known as an anti-Trump protester, was physically attacked by one of the Trump supporters who hijacked the Blue Lives Matter parade, near Sumter Landing today. His picture was on Facebook, and showed him to be battered and bleeding. McGinty was on his way to his daily protest, and from the sounds of it was not at the actual parade. The attack took place near the Sumter Landing Winn Dixie.

This is outrageous and is a black stain on Florida's Friendliest Hometown. Whether you like his views or not, he certainly has a right to protest, and to face physical violence in this manner is just frightening. He has also received threatening letters. What is the matter with these people?

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airstreamingypsy 06-21-2020 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatherer47 (Post 1788514)
he was quoted as saying the man was possibly "Italian"-isn't that ethnic profiling ?

LOL, no it isn't. Educate yourself, I promise it won't hurt.

Fuzz323 06-21-2020 09:00 AM

Was that in the local propaganda sheet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1788518)
This is what the news story said that the victim reported to the police.

"The Village of Hadley resident said he was driving through the Winn-Dixie parking lot at Lake Sumter Landing when a man jumped out of his cart and confronted him.

He said the man, who he described as possibly Italian, about 5-foot-11-inches tall and heavy set, grabbed him by the throat and pulled him from his golf cart, which was sporting a sign..."

I bet this did not make our local "feel good" sheet did it? Just "sayin"
as I have just been skimming it lately and could have missed this item :1rotfl:

Fulco4706 06-21-2020 09:02 AM

....
 
I hope he was at a Blue Lives Matter in support of the police.

a002710 06-21-2020 09:05 AM

Let’s turn back the clock.
 
We need the owners to step up. They have rules here that limits political signs in people’s yards. All we have to do is extend that limit to everywhere in the villages. To get around these rules people will put political signs in their golf carts and park them at the end of their driveway. Eliminate all signage, everywhere. I want my friendly hometown back where no one knew or cared how or who you voted for. Our current political environment is dividing our country, not making it stronger. This is exactly what our current adversaries want. A weaker America makes us a target to outside influences.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 06-21-2020 09:09 AM

Oh yes , a bad piece of toast
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1788508)
ya wanna be an activist ...this stuff is gonna happen

very sad that anyone was assaulted...however...no matter how flat the pancake is there is always two sides to it
....his behavior may have egged it on, no way of knowing...but just saying

if he got into someone's face, he's the one at fault...and would have escalated it...maybe he crossed the wrong person, someone
that had had a lousy breakfast and had gas and was in a bad mood to begin with....who knows for sure

no one knows what someone leaves behind when they leave the house

but I wasn't there and I'm not passing any judgment on anybody

all I can say is:

"well this is certainly a fine kettle of fish that we've gotten ourselves into Ollie, isn't it"

we are a nation divided....what should we think is going to happen when two zealots from opposite sides of the spectrum come head to head?

maybe gas or bad mood . Of course that explains assaulting someone . I mean there’s 2 sides to every story the guy had a sign the other guy didn’t like , well that explains why he did it . Hmmmmm let’s make America great in action

BlackhawksFan 06-21-2020 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1788508)
ya wanna be an activist ...this stuff is gonna happen

very sad that anyone was assaulted...however...no matter how flat the pancake is there is always two sides to it
....his behavior may have egged it on, no way of knowing...but just saying

if he got into someone's face, he's the one at fault...and would have escalated it...maybe he crossed the wrong person, someone
that had had a lousy breakfast and had gas and was in a bad mood to begin with....who knows for sure

no one knows what someone leaves behind when they leave the house

but I wasn't there and I'm not passing any judgment on anybody

all I can say is:

"well this is certainly a fine kettle of fish that we've gotten ourselves into Ollie, isn't it"

we are a nation divided....what should we think is going to happen when two zealots from opposite sides of the spectrum come head to head?

You are passing judgement, read your opening "sentence"

Dust Bunny 06-21-2020 09:14 AM

Blue Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1788475)
Ed McGinty, who is known as an anti-Trump protester, was physically attacked by one of the Trump supporters who hijacked the Blue Lives Matter parade, near Sumter Landing today. His picture was on Facebook, and showed him to be battered and bleeding. McGinty was on his way to his daily protest, and from the sounds of it was not at the actual parade. The attack took place near the Sumter Landing Winn Dixie.

This is outrageous and is a black stain on Florida's Friendliest Hometown. Whether you like his views or not, he certainly has a right to protest, and to face physical violence in this manner is just frightening. He has also received threatening letters. What is the matter with these people?

He poked his HEAD IN THE LIONS MOUTH TO SEE IF HE WAS HUNGER AND GOT BITTEN!
NO SYMPATHY FOR THIS DUDE!

davem4616 06-21-2020 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1788741)
Not sure what you mean by “got into someone’s face” but words are never an excuse for violence. I understand that words can provoke, but the one who resorts to actual violence puts themselves in the wrong.

the phrase 'got into someone's face' basically means that you're standing very close to someone, you're not pleased with something they've done or said and you're letting them know how you feel about it, with energy, in no uncertain terms... it's just slang

I don't have a dog in this hunt...my post only suggested what may have led to the escalation

Margterrymcg 06-21-2020 09:21 AM

Interesting how the commenters stop just short of giving the attacker an “atta boy”

justjim 06-21-2020 09:22 AM

Very sad. I hope whoever did this assault (or any assault) in The Villages is caught, arrested and appropriately punished.

Jayhawk 06-21-2020 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1788563)
He knows how people lie. Any person that is ignorant enough to punch a person who is peacefully protesting is clearly the type of person that would lie and try to get his cronies to dishonestly vouch for him.

Maybe Ed's the one lying. Did you see the event? How do you know the facts? Maybe he flipped the bird or threw the first punch.

Where' s the video now?

Giolinh 06-21-2020 09:28 AM

Two sides to every story. Perhaps what McGinty and a few others did to interrupt the Sunday golf cart parade for TRUMP by using extreme vulgar -in-your -face- language, incited the Winn Dixie encounter? We don't know. Everyone has the right to PEACEFUL protest, as per the Bill of Rights, but from what McGinty and crew did at said parade was beyond the pale. If they are serious about their side, maybe have a parade for whoever they want, but don't just be mean and nasty disruptors/provocateurs.

Linda Taranto 06-21-2020 09:33 AM

We cannot allow politics to move to this level.
God is the answer to all problems.
Please, please find peace in your hearts!
That is what HE wants from us!

OhioBuckeye 06-21-2020 09:34 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Yea, it’s really getting out of hand with so many demands. We need to get a lot tougher!

Don5154 06-21-2020 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryfrakl (Post 1788749)
Seems to matter when the shoe is on the other foot. Where are you when Trump supporters or republicans or better yet anyone who does not agree with you are attacked

As soon as i read the police report i’ll give my opinion. Until than relax and don’t just to conclusions. Only one side of the story has been reported.

bilcon 06-21-2020 09:37 AM

I saw him pulled beside the road yesterday near Winn Dixie talking to the Sheriff. He didn't look like he was hurt to me. Putting a sign on your cart calling The President of the US a "Turd" and a "Filthy Lier" is just asking for trouble. You can oppose someone without getting vicious. They asked people not to put political signs on their carts during yesterday's rally. He was not in Winn Dixie when I saw him. He was down the street from Toojay's and the Sheriff had his lights on talking to him.

anothersteve 06-21-2020 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dplars (Post 1788796)
On fat lady even tried to block the parade's traffic while screaming obscenities .

Now that offends me.... the term "weight challenged" would've been more politically correct :)

Steve

Taltarzac725 06-21-2020 09:43 AM

I doubt if they will arrest nor even find the man who allegedly assaulted Edward unless he turns himself in.

fdpaq0580 06-21-2020 09:43 AM

My oh my..
 
After reading this far I can see good reason to keep certain opinions (religion, politics) to yourself. Too many judges with too little real evidence will never arrive at a unanimous opinion.
Too many people with too little self control can lead to violence. Not good.


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