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Don5154 06-21-2020 09:48 AM

[QUOTE=UpNorth;1788701]I'm surprised he didn't contact CNN first, for another 15 minutes of fame that he seems to crave so much.[/QUOTE

Would not surprise me if the other guy was a CNN reporter looking for a new story on Ed.

Indydealmaker 06-21-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1788486)
Hope the guy is caught and punished for the assault.

All staged! No one to catch.

BS Beef 06-21-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Joelack99 (Post 1788726)
In my country you have the right to protest any body or anything without being put in harm’s way. In my country you do NOT have the right to physically assault anyone. In my country we respect each other and will fight to the death for them to respect their views, even if we disagree.
What the hell is happening to my country?

I’m confused. I shouldn’t be in harms way, but you’re going to “fight me to the death” if I don’t respect your views. Guess it’s in my best interest to agree with you then

Pmelo 06-21-2020 10:07 AM

Pathetic behavior.

lwmilo 06-21-2020 10:08 AM

Before jumping to conclusions, at least find out what was the reason for the altercation. A known anti Trump agitator was simply an angel.? Stop and get the facts.

bpascani 06-21-2020 10:13 AM

This post doesn't make sense. The anti Trump person was going to protest (and what was he going to protest?? the parade, or what??), but the Trump person (and how do we know it was a Trump person) hijacked a Blue Life Matters parade??? That just doesn't make sense.

Dave@TV 06-21-2020 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BS Beef (Post 1788854)
I’m confused. I shouldn’t be in harms way, but you’re going to “fight me to the death” if I don’t respect your views. Guess it’s in my best interest to agree with you then

I think you misread the persons statement. Basically, what was said is: I may not agree with what you said, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

theruizs 06-21-2020 10:20 AM

I would have hoped that at our age we were past the school yard antics. I don’t know what went down. I only know that reacting with violence is never the answer. The golden rule, turn the other cheek, etc.

graciegirl 06-21-2020 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1788687)
I believe the article also said people intervened to help......can’t believe you would say that.

The article had this in it, below in blue. A description of what happened by the person himself. I don't know what happened and apparently only he knows what happened. I don't know him at all, but his Facebook page shows a very nice family and him wearing formal Kilts to a family wedding and it appears he has a great deal of class. However, it seems to me that he really, really, really, really, really is not fond of Mr. Trump and it also appears to me that he is quite willing to share his views.

Here is a snip from the online news article. It has a close up of his injuries. I have never been in a physical fight in all of my 80 years or witnessed one. I do know how small children act and sometimes they don't ever change.

"Ed McGinty, who has received at least two threats over his stance against President Trump and was interviewed by CNN in March, filed a report with the Sumter County Sheriff’s Office late Saturday afternoon. McGinty suffered scratches on his neck and his lip was swollen and bloodied.

The Village of Hadley resident said he was driving through the Winn-Dixie parking lot at Lake Sumter Landing when a man jumped out of his cart and confronted him. He said the man, who he described as possibly Italian, about 5-foot-11-inches tall and heavy set, grabbed him by the throat and pulled him from his golf cart, which was sporting a sign that said, “Biden Will Kick Trump’s Fat Ass.” He said he reacted by punching the man in the nose and several other men jumped in and pulled them apart.

“One man said to me, ‘Just get in your cart and take off,’” McGinty said."

walterray1 06-21-2020 10:29 AM

In this day and age with most everyone having a cell phone with cameras and video it is quite amazing that footage of this "incident" is not readily available. McGinty has been ratcheting up his game for quite some time now. He has continued his one man crusade against the President and this appears to be just another step in his cause to gain more attention to himself and his cause.

Kwenner 06-21-2020 10:29 AM

Sounds fishy
 
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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1788475)
Ed McGinty, who is known as an anti-Trump protester, was physically attacked by one of the Trump supporters who hijacked the Blue Lives Matter parade, near Sumter Landing today. His picture was on Facebook, and showed him to be battered and bleeding. McGinty was on his way to his daily protest, and from the sounds of it was not at the actual parade. The attack took place near the Sumter Landing Winn Dixie.

This is outrageous and is a black stain on Florida's Friendliest Hometown. Whether you like his views or not, he certainly has a right to protest, and to face physical violence in this manner is just frightening. He has also received threatening letters. What is the matter with these people?


I wonder how someone was able to get close enough to a moving golf cart and physically pull the alleged “ victim” off of the cart by his throat without sustaining any injuries himself.Ed must have awesome balance to not have fallen and gotten additional injuries . I would love to know where the witnesses are who encouraged him to just get on his cart and go. Filing a false police report is a crime, not saying he did, I’m just stating a fact.

Bogie Shooter 06-21-2020 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by riley2011;1788569[B
]If the attacker had been armed it could have been a disaster for Ed.[/B] Don’t agree with him, not interested in seeing him but he has the right.

If he was armed........you mean he would have shot Ed just because he was armed? Your implication is way off base.

Michael Charles 06-21-2020 10:38 AM

I believe in the Bill of rights and the U.S. Constitution.

I respect and honor those who serve and those who have served this country to protect those rights and freedoms.

No matter which side anyone is on I must respect their right to speak their minds. PEACEFULLY and WITHOUT being harmed because of their views.

This man has the right to speak his mind, without fear of being harmed.

You have the right to disagree without harming him or others.

I have the right to vote and will use that right come November to peacefully and quietly speak my mind.

NoMoSno 06-21-2020 10:38 AM

I wouldn't form any opinions based solely on an article written by the online "Village News" rag.
There are always two sides to a story.

waynehal55 06-21-2020 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1788564)
This is The Villages. Given today's climate, he's lucky he wasn't shot. There's no excuse for this behavior and the assailant should be prosecuted. No one SHOULD be assaulted for poor judgement. On the other hand, which one of us would consider walking into a BLM "protest" with a sign that states "the police are just doing their job", or "white lives matter"? I think we all know the result of that lapse in judgement as well.

Well said........agree with you 100%

betty2356 06-21-2020 10:49 AM

not profiling at all. Merely describing the attacker, just as one would estimate height/weight.

jimjamuser 06-21-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cypress (Post 1788519)
I guess things are starting to get real.

Real? Yes, we, the whole US of A are becoming BizzarroLand. Down is Up. We are expected to hate the media and love Russia and Saudi Arabia. We are expected to go to work without PPEs. Hospitals are getting full in some parts of the country." Love thy neighbor" has been replaced with "greed is good". Suspect your neighbor of being one of "those dreaded others". Be selfish is the creed of the day. We are close to a depression economically and with ACTUAL unemployment around 20%, no wonder some people with opposite opinions clash. The fabric of society is torn and will stay that way until a vaccine or prevention for CV is found!

Bogie Shooter 06-21-2020 10:54 AM

Maybe this was the beginning........................

"There may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience. So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell— I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise. It won’t be so much ’cause the courts agree with us too."

sktb888 06-21-2020 10:57 AM

He will be a rich man soon. Hopefully his assailant will spend some time in jail.

dewilson58 06-21-2020 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1788888)
I wouldn't form any opinions based solely on an article written by the online "Village News" rag.
There are always two sides to a story.


Bingo

Marvic 1 06-21-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1788907)
Maybe this was the beginning........................

"There may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience. So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell— I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise. It won’t be so much ’cause the courts agree with us too."

Or how about "if you see them in a restaurant or at the movies get in their face and tell them your not welcome here"

forebubba 06-21-2020 11:04 AM

Someone once said, punch him in the face, I'll pay the legal fees

jimjamuser 06-21-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1788516)
"This stuff is gonna happen?" :oops:

In other words, if you disagree with someone and have signs showing such, or even have a screaming match, physical violence is inevitable...and warranted?

Wow...just wow. :ohdear:

As far as "not passing any judgment on anybody," methinks most of the post belies the fact...that is exactly what is occurring.



Gee, let's everyone start using our real names and while we're at it...let's add our addresses and phone #'s.
:doh:

I prefer being Mr. Anonomous because when all the animosity stops in 2020. I don't want to have old scars from this tumultuous time. I want to return to the "good life", the spirit, the good times, the friends, and the Village activities that I remember from about 3 or 4 years ago.
Those were the days my friend
we'd sing and dance, forever and a day

Love2Swim 06-21-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kwenner (Post 1788875)
I wonder how someone was able to get close enough to a moving golf cart and physically pull the alleged “ victim” off of the cart by his throat without sustaining any injuries himself.Ed must have awesome balance to not have fallen and gotten additional injuries . I would love to know where the witnesses are who encouraged him to just get on his cart and go. Filing a false police report is a crime, not saying he did, I’m just stating a fact.

You're not "saying he did", you're just implying it. It would be funny if it wasn't pathetic.

graciegirl 06-21-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1788907)
Maybe this was the beginning........................

"There may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience. So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell— I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise. It won’t be so much ’cause the courts agree with us too."

And...it might not have been an attack at all. It has been proven that some people will put up signs and allow people to think they are vandalized or a victim of a terrorist group by putting the hated Swastica on their own doors and sidewalks. Some people even hire people to appear to beat them up. This happened to a very well known Television personality in Chicago. Hate is a very strong emotion. We cannot always trust what people say, sadly. Even those who post a lot on TOTV, like me.

graciegirl 06-21-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1788925)
And...it might not have been an attack at all. It has been proven that some people will put up signs and allow people to think they are vandalized or a victim of a terrorist group by putting the hated Swastica on their own doors and sidewalks. Some people even hire people to appear to beat them up. This happened to a very well known Television personality in Chicago. Hate is a very strong emotion. We cannot always trust what people say, sadly. Even those who post a lot on TOTV, like me.

Of course they wouldn't lie, but sometimes it is very difficult to get to the very heart of the matter and find an unbiased source.

Topspinmo 06-21-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1788516)
"This stuff is gonna happen?" :oops:

In other words, if you disagree with someone and have signs showing such, or even have a screaming match, physical violence is inevitable...and warranted?

Wow...just wow. :ohdear:

As far as "not passing any judgment on anybody," methinks most of the post belies the fact...that is exactly what is occurring.



Gee, let's everyone start using our real names and while we're at it...let's add our addresses and phone #'s.
:doh:

You first.

Neils 06-21-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by riley2011 (Post 1788569)
If the attacker had been armed it could have been a disaster for Ed. Don’t agree with him, not interested in seeing him but he has the right.

And if Iran nuked Ed it would have been bad too

Topspinmo 06-21-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1788518)
This is what the news story said that the victim reported to the police.

"The Village of Hadley resident said he was driving through the Winn-Dixie parking lot at Lake Sumter Landing when a man jumped out of his cart and confronted him.

He said the man, who he described as possibly Italian, about 5-foot-11-inches tall and heavy set, grabbed him by the throat and pulled him from his golf cart, which was sporting a sign..."

He could of kept driving.

karostay 06-21-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1788888)
I wouldn't form any opinions based solely on an article written by the online "Village News" rag.
There are always two sides to a story.

Where ?

Finchs 06-21-2020 11:17 AM

The "Black Stain" is McGinty himself.
 
This is outrageous and is a black stain on Florida's Friendliest Hometown. Whether you like his views or not, he certainly has a right to protest, and to face physical violence in this manner is just frightening. He has also received threatening letters. What is the matter with these people?[/QUOTE]

I have been in 2 Pro-Trump Kart rallies, and have been appalled at the nasty, vulgar and extremely hateful ranting and offensive signage that this low-IQ individual gets away with. To say he asks for, and invites hostility is putting it mildly.
If he got his nose punched I believe without any reservations the idiot has just gone to darn far and people are really done with putting up with his pathetic need for attention. I abhor violence, and believe those who incite it should be condemned,, not glorified. McGinty incites violence. Period. He got what he asked for.

Topspinmo 06-21-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1788562)
No one with signs or words should be the recipient of physical violence. No one. The person who attacked him was clearly a Villages thug. If you state some political view I don't agree with, or wave some sign around with words that do not meet my ethical standards, I have no right to punch you in the face. What normal people do when that happens is argue with the person, and if that gets them nowhere, they walk away.

This was public area, how do you know he was village resident?

jimjamuser 06-21-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1788543)
McGinty had a sign on his cart “Hang Him” obvious who he was referring to. Now he’s getting a taste of his own medicine. And free speech does not mean yelling “fire” in a theater which his inflammatory signs are doing. He should be arrested for inciting to riot.

No way, Jose- on the arrest him. He is the victim.

Topspinmo 06-21-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1788579)
McGinty wasn't at any protest. He was out in front of the Winn Dixie, driving his golf cart.


And he didn’t have to stop did he?

obxgal 06-21-2020 11:21 AM

Maybe it has nothing to do with Ed's political signs at all. Maybe Ed pulled out in front of the other driver and almost caused an accident.

Fredman 06-21-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 1788631)
I am Italian. Whoever said that IS ethnic profiling—just as people who assume we’re all in the Mafia.

Are u saying that’s not true. :bigbow:

jimjamuser 06-21-2020 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1788562)
No one with signs or words should be the recipient of physical violence. No one. The person who attacked him was clearly a Villages thug. If you state some political view I don't agree with, or wave some sign around with words that do not meet my ethical standards, I have no right to punch you in the face. What normal people do when that happens is argue with the person, and if that gets them nowhere, they walk away.

Well said, true that.

njbchbum 06-21-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JulieER (Post 1788700)
On possible Italian - it was a DESCRIPTION. The police ask for one and you do the best you can. If the attacker is white, black, disabled, Chinese, male, female, Muslim, tall, short, Japanese, heavy set, thin, etc. - it is a DESCRIPTION. It is NOT racial profiling. Under the law, NO ONE has the right to put their hands on you whether you disagree with them or not, argue with them or not. This attacker lost control of himself instead of walking away from someone he didn’t like.

What does Italian look like? Is calling someone Italian without knowing their ethnicity/heritage identity profiling then? Does that make profiling right if it is not racial profiling?

beachman46 06-21-2020 11:29 AM

I think Ed had a visit from the Secret Service awhile back for threatening to punch President Trump in the mouth on social media. . How about someone checking that out!
How about Ed being thrown out of several golfing groups because of his aggressive political views. This guy pushes people to the limit with his liberal political views. Politics, Religion and Sports should not be in the same conversation.

Dilligas 06-21-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by riley2011 (Post 1788569)
If the attacker had been armed it could have been a disaster for Ed. Don’t agree with him, not interested in seeing him but he has the right.

If the attacker was a professional assassin he could have........Getting a little spectulative are we?


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