[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

My thought is that GB for the most part has been able to retain the values that existed back in 1965.

The UK is NUMBER ONE in violent crimes in the World.

[ScottGo]

There is no point in taking any action, this is the new normal. The only way to stop is to take away all guns but that will not happen, too many 2nd amendment lovers. Just get used to it, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, south Fla., Colorado, Texas. Got a bunch of states it hasn't happened yet, but it will. It's old news. Not going to change.

[PugMom]

when these killings happen, everyone is talking about guns, but i rarely her anyone mention SECURITY. as in Sandy Hook, this guy just walked right into the school, no checks or balances. Chris Murphy said we needed better security, but it never happened, except for the occasional unarmed patrol greeting parents.
the killings are horrific, but look how it brings out the SAME PEOPLE who've been arguing for gun control for years! it's obscene the way they turn out time after time, preaching but offering no real solutions. they use the dead children as a tool to enforce stricter laws & it hasn't worked yet, so i get the feeling nothing is sacred when it comes to manipulation

[Cmacnair@hotmail.com]

How that work out? People still smoke.

[Watchdr@yahoo.com]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

Maybe we should not let our children play violent video games that gives them the idea that it's ok to kill people ?

If you have ever seen these video games like Call of Duty, the character you play in the game is exactly like this last grocery store killing. He had his camera mount on his chest so it would look just like it does in the video game, all the way down to the way he reloaded the gun.
Businesses put millions of dollars in 30 second advertising like commercials and radio because it works. Now think about kids playing these games for hours everyday. It is actually driven in the brain. These video games are way more to blame than the guns. But, it also falls back on the parents, discipline & the way they raise them.
I know many of you will argue that the guns are the problems but we have guns protecting our politicians, our money (banks), celebrities, special events, college sports, and much more. But NO security officers with guns in schools. If you ask me, teachers should have to go through a yearly gun course and carry to protect our children. Have fingers print access to the guns so the kids can’t take them and stop these killers in their tracks.

[Villages Kahuna]

AR-15’s?

[Speedie]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Sorry, this shooter did not lie on the background check, Texas doesn’t require one. He just turned 18 and legally purchased 2 ar15s a day later and then killed 21 people.

It’s hard to enforce laws that don’t exist.

Please get some facts. All states must follow the EXISTING Federal background checks before allowing a gun to be sold. This is a requirement (LAW) for any FFL dealer. The check must clear with the FBI and other federal databases.

[villager7591]

An AR-15 is not a military weapon. Think of a .22 rifle with an ammo clip.

[Speedie]

Originally Posted by ScottGo

There is no point in taking any action, this is the new normal. The only way to stop is to take away all guns but that will not happen, too many 2nd amendment lovers. Just get used to it, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, south Fla., Colorado, Texas. Got a bunch of states it hasn't happened yet, but it will. It's old news. Not going to change.

And would you also like others to take away your 1st amendment right to state your opinion? Much violence is being caused by the 1st amendment fermenting anger

People need to go back to church, put God back in schools, and teach their children right from wrong. Moral values and caring for others can help stop the violence.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by proveone

mr. "know it all" as usual. Your opinion. Not based by logic or reason. We live in a country where there are more guns than people. More guns than motor vehicles. Second amendment stated regulated militia but this country's guns are not regulated. No one needs an ar 15 assault weapon unless you are in the military at war. Your "two cents" is now worth less than a penny!

1. There is one goal and that is to protect our children from being murdered in school rooms
2. We must guard our children like a bank guards its money with armed personnel
3. Businesses that guard their product do not get caught up in political , social or constitutional arguements .you enter their store with criminal intent you may not walk out vertically.
4 as i said before in pp. Arm our paid national guard to deploy to schools with metal detectors.
This is a solution. Not a philosophical menagerie of aimless and pointless debates
5. Protect our children not your points of views.

[villager7591]

Reply not directed at creator of post, but more to gun-control people: Chicago has some of the most constraining gun law in the country...and they rack up more dead in a month than in this recent TX elementary school shooting. How is more gun control going to help? Criminal will continue to get the guns while law-abiding citizens will be limited or even disarmed.
*Caveat-why does no one care that Chicago has, normally, about 20+ killed every month in shootings but everyone goes ape over a mass shooting? Incongruous.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Questioning the "need" for a gun or guns is just another way of avoiding discussing the real problems behind the violence of today. It is on a par with questioning the "need" for so many pairs of shoes.

And yes. You can hunt with them. My grandson shot his first deer with one, a 10-point buck.

Nicely stated in a simple to understand statement.!!

[donnamayo]

Originally Posted by Woodbear

The shooter legally purchased two AR platform rifles from a federally licensed gun store. This WOULD have required a background check.

And what would have come back if a background check was done?

[Villages Kahuna]

“A .22 with an ammo clip”?

Most recent descriptions describe the AR-15 as the most destructive rifle against human flesh ever used in armed combat. A .22? Like what kids use to shoot squirrels?

[DrBrutyle109]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

Maybe we should not let our children play violent video games that gives them the idea that it's ok to kill people ?

I would say it’s the PARENTS job to teach them not to kill a perdon