[MrFlorida]

Why not metal detectors ? seems like the sensible thing to have nowadays.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

Why not metal detectors ? seems like the sensible thing to have nowadays.

Agreed. There should be a single point of entry with security, Biometric ID checking, and metal detectors. Plastic guns would still get through, so, I am not sure how that can be handled properly and in a way that can be afforded. Remember there are 130,000 K-12 schools in the US.

[dewilson58]

30x's as many murders by abortion than by guns.

BLM
(Baby Lives Matter)

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Originally Posted by blueash

The Wild West had vigorous gun regulation in the towns and mass slaughters of civilians the likes of which we see so often did not happen.

Do you remember how horrified everyone was by Columbine in 1999. It had never happened before. In the last 22 years there have now been 13 mass school killings, defined as 3 or more deaths in a single incident.

Thoughts and prayers are not working.

Don’t know if this link will work:

A Brief History of Mass Shootings – Behind the Tower

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Agreed. There should be a single point of entry with security, Biometric ID checking, and metal detectors. Plastic guns would still get through, so, I am not sure how that can be handled properly and in a way that can be afforded. Remember there are 130,000 K-12 schools in the US.

Plastic guns? Get real. Do you have any idea how many shots you can get through a plastic barrel before it's useless? Even most "plastic" guns have metal barrels. Which a metal detector would... detect..

[Jensor17]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

Maybe we should not let our children play violent video games that gives them the idea that it's ok to kill people ?

I agree. I was appalled years ago to see a grandson on gaming tv where he was supposed to shoot invaders or aliens coming through various doorways or alleys at rapid speed.

It was like a memory of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris in Columbine school shootings. THOSE TWO DEMENTED TEENS GOT DEADLY IDEAS FROM VIDEO GAME WHERE 2 Men in black long coats walked into a school and shot /killed teachers and kids ! THEY MADE A DEADLY GAME COME TO LIFE.

That type video game and similar “games” should be annihilated.
Kids repeat what they see and hear. It is how we “teach” them right from wrong. SUCH VIDEO GAMES OR DIGITAL GAMES SHOULD BE BANNED

[PennBF]

There are some of us who have lived and observed the period of destruction of our Society and the resultant Con regarding how to fixed it with a single act of change, e.g. gun control. We have seen the mental hospital's closed and the patients sent to the street., we have seen the church attendance significantly reduced, we have seen a tremendous growth in "entitlement" demands, we have seen people avoiding participation in work as they want needs given not earned, we have seen the Police and other authority groups, (e.g. teachers, etc) powers taken away, we have seen our children provided with electronic games which boast shootings, killings and the total disrespect for life, we have raised children who believe killing is a "game", we have made drugs legal or ignore their their use and effects on our lives, we have watched means of destroying total societies put in the hands of corrupt leaders, I am sure many more conditions can be identified by those who have also lived many many many years and are not fooled by the con that controlling guns will make our lives better. How many have heard a senior citizen say "I am glad I am living now as I would not want to be the children of today who have to deal with what we are leaving behind"? Let's not be fooled by the corrupt intellectuals who preach that gun controls will fix our problems but rather re-establish values that return us to a great society.

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by Jensor17

I agree. I was appalled years ago to see a grandson on gaming tv where he was supposed to shoot invaders or aliens coming through various doorways or alleys at rapid speed.

It was like a memory of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris in Columbine school shootings. THOSE TWO DEMENTED TEENS GOT DEADLY IDEAS FROM VIDEO GAME WHERE 2 Men in black long coats walked into a school and shot /killed teachers and kids ! THEY MADE A DEADLY GAME COME TO LIFE.

That type video game and similar “games” should be annihilated.
Kids repeat what they see and hear. It is how we “teach” them right from wrong. SUCH VIDEO GAMES OR DIGITAL GAMES SHOULD BE BANNED

I'm no fan of video games, especially shoot-em-ups or violence against women ones. BUT, those same games are played all over the world yet only in the USA do we see mass killings on such a scale. They may be a part (small part) of the problem, but there is much more going on

[MrFlorida]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Agreed. There should be a single point of entry with security, Biometric ID checking, and metal detectors. Plastic guns would still get through, so, I am not sure how that can be handled properly and in a way that can be afforded. Remember there are 130,000 K-12 schools in the US.

Plastic guns still have to have a steel barrel and slide.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Plastic guns? Get real. Do you have any idea how many shots you can get through a plastic barrel before it's useless? Even most "plastic" guns have metal barrels. Which a metal detector would... detect..

Agreed.

So? I just mentioned plastic since any suggestions that aren’t 100% effective get shot down here.

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by PennBF

There are some of us who have lived and observed the period of destruction of our Society and the resultant Con regarding how to fixed it with a single act of change, e.g. gun control. We have seen the mental hospital's closed and the patients sent to the street., we have seen the church attendance significantly reduced, we have seen a tremendous growth in "entitlement" demands, we have seen people avoiding participation in work as they want needs given not earned, we have seen the Police and other authority groups, (e.g. teachers, etc) powers taken away, we have seen our children provided with electronic games which boast shootings, killings and the total disrespect for life, we have raised children who believe killing is a "game", we have made drugs legal or ignore their their use and effects on our lives, we have watched means of destroying total societies put in the hands of corrupt leaders, I am sure many more conditions can be identified by those who have also lived many many many years and are not fooled by the con that controlling guns will make our lives better. How many have heard a senior citizen say "I am glad I am living now as I would not want to be the children of today who have to deal with what we are leaving behind"? Let's not be fooled by the corrupt intellectuals who preach that gun controls will fix our problems but rather re-establish values that return us to a great society.

Sorry, not buying it. No one is claiming that getting some measure of control and management of high capacity, designed specifically to kill people, type guns will solve the world's problems. What it might go is make it just a little harder for that tiny fraction of the population that gets a kick out of killing to get the tools they need for mass killing.
The only part of the "good old days" that I think would be welcomed back is the cooperation we saw across polirical and class boundries to get things done that needed doing.

[Normal]

Airports used to be safe too, but we had to harden the procedures and checkpoints as well as start up the TSA. Times evolve. We need to harden up the schools too.

[Taltarzac725]

Well said.
And a desire to solve practical problems by approaching it with an "anything that actual works" approach.

Parents should put trigger locks on their weapons no matter where they hide them. Kids are curious and inventive on how they can reach places. And the ammunition should also be locked up in a different place but probably close by if an intruder arrives.

And make gun safety classes mandatory for people who are new gun owners.

Originally Posted by jdulej

Sorry, not buying it. No one is claiming that getting some measure of control and management of high capacity, designed specifically to kill people, type guns will solve the world's problems. What it might go is make it just a little harder for that tiny fraction of the population that gets a kick out of killing to get the tools they need for mass killing.
The only part of the "good old days" that I think would be welcomed back is the cooperation we saw across polirical and class boundries to get things done that needed doing.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by PennBF

There are some of us who have lived and observed the period of destruction of our Society and the resultant Con regarding how to fixed it with a single act of change, e.g. gun control. We have seen the mental hospital's closed and the patients sent to the street., we have seen the church attendance significantly reduced, we have seen a tremendous growth in "entitlement" demands, we have seen people avoiding participation in work as they want needs given not earned, we have seen the Police and other authority groups, (e.g. teachers, etc) powers taken away, we have seen our children provided with electronic games which boast shootings, killings and the total disrespect for life, we have raised children who believe killing is a "game", we have made drugs legal or ignore their their use and effects on our lives, we have watched means of destroying total societies put in the hands of corrupt leaders, I am sure many more conditions can be identified by those who have also lived many many many years and are not fooled by the con that controlling guns will make our lives better. How many have heard a senior citizen say "I am glad I am living now as I would not want to be the children of today who have to deal with what we are leaving behind"? Let's not be fooled by the corrupt intellectuals who preach that gun controls will fix our problems but rather re-establish values that return us to a great society.

There are many things in your post I agree with, but the main thing I disagree with in your post is the I know if NO ONE that believes gun control will FIX the problem. It will help. A little or a lot, it will help.

Background checks won’t fix the problem but they will help.

And while we debate, children die.

What would you change today that will help the problem and save a child’s life?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Well said.
And a desire to solve practical problems by approaching it with an "anything that actual works" approach.

Parents should put trigger locks on their weapons no matter where they hide them. Kids are curious and inventive on how they can reach places. And the ammunition should also be locked up in a different place but probably close by if an intruder arrives.

And make gun safety classes mandatory for people who are new gun owners.

Agreed