[Tom2172]

Can’t use race to identify criminal suspects
Yet Police shootings when the criminal puts the police & public’s lives in danger
Race is pushed As the factor.
Never that the criminal suspect resisted arrest and put lives in danger

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Major news reported a police shooting of a black man yesterday. Showed the black man refusing to listen to the police then reached into his car for something, then police shot him.

Why can't they just listen to the police for the moment. Now it is the policeman's fault. Bad kids.

And when the video was slowed down, it can be seen he has something hidden in his hand. Would you want to be in that officers place and have to make a split second decision? Go home in one piece to his family and get fired and possibly charged or be dead. Ill take fired anyday

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

And when the video was slowed down, it can be seen he has something hidden in his hand. Would you want to be in that officers place and have to make a split second decision? Go home in one piece to his family and get fired and possibly charged or be dead. Ill take fired anyday

These people never see it from the officers side. They do need to see your hands to know you are not a threat to them.

[Mardarlowe]

The man decided to ignore the policeman repeatedly. He paid the price. Move on.

[jimh123]

Yea for the Police !!! Doing their Job ! ALL Lives Matter !

[Slapnut]

There would have been no report from the news if it was a white man. Just like no news reports regarding rioting and looting. The news only reports what they want. It's a shame

[skyking]

If I am in the same position and being unfairly harassed by the police, I will do exactly as instructed and file my complaint the next day.

Each of these victims had one thing in common. Stupidity.

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Major news reported a police shooting of a black man yesterday. Showed the black man refusing to listen to the police then reached into his car for something, then police shot him.

Why can't they just listen to the police for the moment. Now it is the policeman's fault. Bad kids.

He earned those bullets no matter what color his skin. He wasn't a black man shot. He was a non-cooperative criminal who refused to keep his hands in plain view and proceeded to ignore lawful orders and reached into his vehicle for (who knows what). Police shouldn't have to wait to see if he pulls out a weapon. Shooting was in self-defense. Glad he is gone from the planet. Too bad for those kids though. And, too bad for all the innocent people who have to deal with more BLM BS.

[Heyitsrick]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

Why aren't we all outraged about the increase in violence in America. Last weekend 64 people were shot across Chicago, seven of them fatally. A 12-year-old boy and six teenagers were among those wounded.

In New York CIty at least 45 people were shot, eight fatally, since Friday.

Six people were shot, one killed in weekend shootings across Portland.

Why aren't we outraged about this? Why isn't this the lead story on national news? Why aren't we trying to understand and reduce violence in our cities.

Why is the media laser focused on 1 police shooting in Kenosha, WI when 64 + 45 + 6 people were shot and 16 were killed in just 3 cities over the weekend?

You're exactly right, of course. And we don't have to look far to see people who just can't wait to go on another anti-police rant, yet couldn't care less about the overwhelming numbers of shootings/killings that are primarily black-on-black crimes. Those lives don't matter to activists, celebrities, and some online who just revel in looking for the worst in law enforcement, and perpetuating stereotypes. It's pretty pathetic.

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by Heyitsrick

You're exactly right, of course. And we don't have to look far to see people who just can't wait to go on another anti-police rant, yet couldn't care less about the overwhelming numbers of shootings/killings that are primarily black-on-black crimes. Those lives don't matter to activists, celebrities, and some online who just revel in looking for the worst in law enforcement, and perpetuating stereotypes. It's pretty pathetic.

What is pathetic is the lack of gun control in this country.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by billethkid

To take the racial focus off the shooting....all police involved shootings that day should be reported.
Secondly all non police shootings listed for that day as well.

The medias continual, selective race reporting/promoting needs to be put into the perspective of reality VS selective out of context, sensationalism seeking, disruptive reporting.

We'd need a separate 24 hour a day channel to report all of the shootings in this country every day. There were 59 people shot in Chicago over the weekend. There are hundreds and perhaps thousands of shootings every day in this country. I'm sure they are all reported locally. In order to report them all, we'd need a national clearing house for shootings.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Major news reported a police shooting of a black man yesterday. Showed the black man refusing to listen to the police then reached into his car for something, then police shot him.

Why can't they just listen to the police for the moment. Now it is the policeman's fault. Bad kids.

Kenosha, Wisconsin. Proud home of the late American Motors Corporation. Ramblers! My first car was a used 1963 Rambler American. I loved it. Then the company closed down, and life got a lot harder for a lot of laid off employees, a couple generations ago. So to some extent, this shooting happened because we bought Japanese cars instead of Ramblers.

I’ve watched this video about ten times, and I think we need a lot more information. I don’t know that the officers had any idea who was in the back seat of that nice SUV, as the windows had dark tinting. Why is that even allowed? No wonder cops are nervous about traffic stops with windows like that.

It seems pretty clear that the officers had been talking to this guy on the other side of the SUV before he strode around to the driver’s door while being ordered to halt. Had they asked for his driver’s license and car registration? Perhaps he didn’t have his wallet in his pocket. Perhaps it was in a console compartment in the car, and he was reaching for it. Perhaps it was on the passenger seat. Perhaps the passenger door was locked (that often happens if the car is running, and this one may have been, as the windows were closed and there were kids in the back).

Had the police run the license plate number? Did they know the guy’s record? Did they thus have reason to fear that he might be armed?

Both officers had drawn their weapons before the video begins, it seems. This is pretty unusual. Had they done that because they had been told to assume the guy (sorry, but I don’t recall his name) was armed and dangerous? Did they draw because before the video began, he seemed prone to violence? We don’t know. Had they ordered him to the ground, and he refused? If his kids were in the car, worry about them could be a factor, and perhaps the officers, as I said, didn’t know.

So the officers follow the guy around the SUV. To me they look terrified. I could be wrong, but they look scared of this guy who wasn’t complying. He leans into the car to grab something. Could it be a black wallet? My wallet is black. Not unusual. But to them it looks like a gun, and one officer, terrified, starts shooting, and the other joins in, perhaps assuming the first cop may have seen a gun. But it seems there was no gun.

I’m sure this is a nightmare situation for the officers. They had to have known this would destroy their careers, ruin their lives, before they fired. If you have fired handguns, you know that when you have leaned deep into a car, across the driver’s seat, steering wheel in the way, left hand on the seat, it takes awhile to straighten, turn, swing a gun, and fire, even if you are unusually fast. Maybe you’d hit your head on the roof. Maybe the gun would get tangled in the steering wheel. Maybe you would shoot yourself in the foot. Try it and see! It’s a lot slower than drawing and shooting from a standing position. So really, even if this guy was fast, the officers had adequate time to wait until they had clearly seen a gun in his hand before shooting. He couldn’t shoot from that bent over and in the SUV position and hit the cops. He could straighten and begin swinging his gun and the cops could still shoot him many times before he could fire. After all, their guns were already drawn and pointing at him.

So, it seems to me that these officers were terrified, and this led to what seems to me to be a shooting that could have been avoided. Indeed, maybe the entire incident could have been avoided. We don’t know yet. Certainly, the guy resisting the police did not show much wisdom in his actions. How could he not know he was putting his life in danger?

I don’t think these officers will be found guilty of attempted homicide in any degree, but I think they will lose their jobs. Meanwhile, nothing that happened here is justification for rioting, arson, looting, or destruction of property.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

We'd need a separate 24 hour a day channel to report all of the shootings in this country every day. There were 59 people shot in Chicago over the weekend. There are hundreds and perhaps thousands of shootings every day in this country. I'm sure they are all reported locally. In order to report them all, we'd need a national clearing house for shootings.

Hence the point ..... selective, agenda based reporting of "...another police shooting...".

[Rsenholzi]

This is not true. look at the dates of the media coverage , none of the media picked up the story until 4 to 7 days after the persons death. They are only doing it as a result of the outrage on Facebook of the media ignoring all of the deaths. They are blacking out the deaths or beatings of white people if they can get away with it. It is a form of reverse discrimination

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

And when the video was slowed down, it can be seen he has something hidden in his hand. Would you want to be in that officers place and have to make a split second decision? Go home in one piece to his family and get fired and possibly charged or be dead. Ill take fired anyday

You’re missing the point. There’s a new law. Perpetrators are innocent until proven guilty. Cops are guilty period. Even after proven innocent.