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La lamy 06-06-2020 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by drgoofy (Post 1778242)
Being high/intoxicated or passing counterfeit $ doesn't carry a death sentence...at least last time I checked. Even if so, it would need to be arrived at via a judge and jury...not some renegade cops.

My thoughts exactly. The protests are about lack of CIVIL justice for a lot of minorities.

billethkid 06-06-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by drgoofy (Post 1778242)
Being high/intoxicated or passing counterfeit $ doesn't carry a death sentence...at least last time I checked. Even if so, it would need to be arrived at via a judge and jury...not some renegade cops.

The post implies death was the intent.
Death happened to end up the result but not the intent.

bilcon 06-06-2020 07:30 AM

A very intelligent, well spoken women who should be listen to by everyone, but she will be attacked instead of admired. Watch the entire Video.

Chatbrat 06-06-2020 07:33 AM

What the real shame is no one bothers to look at the real stats in the big cities, all you have to do is look up" Hey Jackass Chicago," and then ask yourself why is there only protests when they involve police for political purposes--hundreds of blacks get murdered by other blacks and no gives a damn

Steve Eddy 06-06-2020 07:37 AM

Larry Elder is another person that is worth listening to.

dewilson58 06-06-2020 07:37 AM

Thanks for sharing the clip.


Not easy situation, media is not helping any cause.

oneclickplus 06-06-2020 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pamelah (Post 1778181)
I don’t get it. I thought people were protesting because of how he died. Yes he is a martyr because he was black and murdered by a cop. His history is irrelevant. She’s the nut case.

Fentanyl and Meth in his blood stream at the time of his arrest is not "history". It was an immediate factor in his behavior and the officer's response to same.

IWalkDogs 06-06-2020 07:48 AM

WHAT A BRILLIANT WOMAN, Candace Owens
 
Prayers for Candace, Kanye (love my 'JESUS IS KING'), and Dr Ben Carson, etc ... I did not know they were called names in their communities for making Their Lives Matter and that makes me sad with empathy for their struggle in life. I pray them love and appreciation of their lives in days ahead.
I am glad she posted what she calls 'her rant', it took courage and I admire that... Also, I learned a lot from her investigative journalism and her opinion and perspective of the facts.
Neither George Floyd nor Policeman David Dorn should have been WRONGLY murdered. I hope/PRAY both families get justice though our system.
I personally cannot see how doing ugliness toward another, rioting, breaking, entering, stealing, ruining Cities is a means to anything other than me reacting saying, Well, That is clearly WRONG to do.
Two WRONGS.....

Saluce 06-06-2020 07:48 AM

You seemed to have missed her point!! It wasn’t just about his death or how he died!! 🙄

anothersteve 06-06-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1778267)
Nice, continue to try to perpetuate a lie and have an equally uninformed poster (Nailed it - CNM) agree. Here is a clip of congressman Ted Lieu trying to make that same assertion and Candace’s reply. Rep. Ted Lieu plays recording of Candace Owens statement on Adolf Hitler (C-SPAN) - YouTube

Thank you.

Steve

Guitarman1951 06-06-2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 1777975)
Wow! A lot to think about. Can you imagine if a white person spoke these exact words?



YouTube

I watched that video of this very articulate and intelligent black lady who did her homework. I only wish the mainstream news would report on Floyd's criminal background, especially the home invasion where threatened a pregnant woman with a gun in her stomach. Might take some shine off his glorification for sure. Amazing how these hardened criminals suddenly become upstanding citizens when this sort of thing happens.

erenee 06-06-2020 08:03 AM

She is what our country needs right now.
 
She is what our country needs right now. I hope she continues, it would be wonderful to think that she just might become our next Martin Luther King

HelenLCSW 06-06-2020 08:03 AM

She missed the point when she talked about black culture demanding justice for criminals. That may be true in some instances, but the whole point here is that George Floyd was not a criminal and that not only are black people more likely to be falsely suspected, but that black people, innocent or guilty, are inhumanely treated.

kimgarwel12@gmail.com 06-06-2020 08:04 AM

I listened to this video and thought her message was powerful. I didn't take away from it that the main point is George Floyd was high or intoxicated. No, he didn't deserve to die like he did.....or die at all, for that matter. I'm thrilled that the cops involved have been arrested and charged with his murder, because that's exactly what they did! The main point of this video is that a person of color is decrying her people glorifying black criminals and making role models and martyrs of them, all the while rioting, looting and destroying our cities and businesses......and expecting to get away from it because they're the victims in all this! Of course, they have struggles. Of course, racism is alive and well, but beating the same dead horse for hundreds of years isn't accomplishing anything or changing the struggles. Candace Owen and Dr. Ben Carson are examples of people of color who didn't buy into the usual narrative and worked to get somewhere and make something of themselves. The sad part is that for their efforts, they're labeled as "coons" or "Uncle Toms" instead of being held up as the role models they are.

The Piper 06-06-2020 08:08 AM

Why are you grouping "protestors" and "looters" in the same sentence? Protestors have a First Amendment right to protest peacefully. Looters are breaking the law. Peaceful protestors make up the vast majority of those you see on American streets. Protesting plays a crucial role in change within a free society. Looting and violence are unfortunate by-products of people often with a political agenda who want to create chaos. Don't confuse these people with those exercising their right to assemble and protest freely.

yurkie 06-06-2020 08:26 AM

In my opinion, I believe her 2018 statistics, because I have read and heard similar analyses. She makes many powerful points and facts. God Bless and Protect her.

toeser 06-06-2020 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 1777975)
Wow! A lot to think about. Can you imagine if a white person spoke these exact words?



YouTube

She fits my knowledge and philosophy to an exact "T" up to and including the 250,000 who die from medical errors each year. Sharp young lady.

toeser 06-06-2020 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HelenLCSW (Post 1778338)
She missed the point when she talked about black culture demanding justice for criminals. That may be true in some instances, but the whole point here is that George Floyd was not a criminal and that not only are black people more likely to be falsely suspected, but that black people, innocent or guilty, are inhumanely treated.

??? Of course he is a criminal. He has a rap sheet as long as your arm. He has spent a good percentage of his life in jail. The arrest that ended his life was for passing counterfeit money. Yes, he did not deserve to be treated as he was, even if he had not died from that treatment, but he was a criminal.

donassaid 06-06-2020 08:41 AM

So refreshing to see a black woman who "gets it", who knows the truth and us not afraid to call out the blatant hypocrisy of so called black leaders.

Buckeye Bob 06-06-2020 08:49 AM

Whether he was high or not makes no difference; she was spot on.

GoodLife 06-06-2020 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Bob (Post 1778383)
Whether he was high or not makes no difference; she was spot on.

He was high, according to ME report

Other significant conditions: Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent methamphetamine use

Apparently some do not understand what intoxication means.

John_W 06-06-2020 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1778213)
"Candace Amber Owens Farmer is an American conservative commentator and political activist. She is known for her pro-Trump activism that began around 2016 after being initially very critical of Trump and the Republican Party, and her criticism of Black Lives Matter and of the Democratic Party." Wikipedia

This says it all.

I'm so glad you brought up this up. I didn't know that she was initially critical of Trump and the Republican Party. I now have even more respect for her knowing that she saw the way this country was headed and probably after examining the options, she chose her current course of ACTION!!! Way to Go!!! Maybe there is hope for this country after all!!!!


GoodLife 06-06-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1778355)
If nothing else, the vast number of threads resulting from the murder of George Floyd has exposed a lot of folks...for the prejudice racism/bigotry that they readily embrace.

And for that alone...I am grateful.
:thumbup:

Speaking of exposed, I keep hearing "all lives matter" but apparently reality is different.

Attachment 84461

George Floyd (ex con, drug addict)
Nonstop nationwide news reports, protests, riots etc

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David Dorn (ex Police Chief, mentor to disadvantaged children)
NO non stop nationwide news reports protests, riots etc

John_W 06-06-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1778390)
Speaking of exposed, I keep hearing "all lives matter" but apparently reality is different.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo..._w_760_793-jpg

David Dorn (ex Police Chief, mentor to disadvantaged children)
NO non stop nationwide news reports protests, riots etc

You know why the black community and the mainstream media hasn't really mentioned this retired Police Captain's murder by looters, is because they only believe if you ain't with them, you're against them!! He was protecting his pawn shop and killed by thugs, you would think this would be an even BIGGER story instead an internet blurb!!!!!!!!


airstreamingypsy 06-06-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1778283)
The post implies death was the intent.
Death happened to end up the result but not the intent.

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Really? You know that how? A cop, who took an oath to protect and serve, kept his knew compressing a man's windpipe while the man was saying, "I can't breathe" If a black cop was doing that to a white Villager you would be screaming that he murdered him deliberately. A cop with 18 citations against him. You defend him, "It wasn't his intent" of course it was, the man was handcuffed, what was he going to do? All the cop had to do was take his knee off the man's windpipe.

Pamelagrace 06-06-2020 09:05 AM

I read your response and thought, “ hey, I wrote that”! I have followed Candace for quite a while and I believe we’ll see and hear of her more!

airstreamingypsy 06-06-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1778395)
You know why the black community and the mainstream media hasn't really mentioned this retired Police Captain's murder by looters, is because they only believe if you ain't with them, you're against them!! He was protecting his pawn shop and killed by thugs, you would think this would be an even BIGGER story instead an internet blurb!!!!!!!!


The MSM has named him. Can you see the difference of a thug killing, and a police officer killing? Neither murder is okay, but police have been getting away with murdering unarmed black men for years, that's what the kneeling at football games was about, but instead of listening many people were outraged, not by the crime but by the peaceful protest. If people had listened we wouldn't be in this mess today.

waynehal55 06-06-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by IWalkDogs (Post 1778316)
Prayers for Candace, Kanye (love my 'JESUS IS KING'), and Dr Ben Carson, etc ... I did not know they were called names in their communities for making Their Lives Matter and that makes me sad with empathy for their struggle in life. I pray them love and appreciation of their lives in days ahead.
I am glad she posted what she calls 'her rant', it took courage and I admire that... Also, I learned a lot from her investigative journalism and her opinion and perspective of the facts.
Neither George Floyd nor Policeman David Dorn should have been WRONGLY murdered. I hope/PRAY both families get justice though our system.
I personally cannot see how doing ugliness toward another, rioting, breaking, entering, stealing, ruining Cities is a means to anything other than me reacting saying, Well, That is clearly WRONG to do.
Two WRONGS.....

Well said, Candace is a very bright young lady with a great future(hopefully).

wamley 06-06-2020 09:10 AM

You know what's in her mind and I'd like to hear her lies from previous converstons she's had. I want to know when I'm being lied to so I'd appreciate you sharing some of your experiences with her. Just based on your remarks though, they sound like your reading her mind and her intent. Thanks for you help.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 06-06-2020 09:12 AM

If you haven’t heard Candace rambling on about so many outrageous things you should . I ashamed of what I’ll hearing on here but not surprised, there is another person like her that’s believed without ever questioning the accuracy no matter the content , but let’s pretend we believe everything she says . Can any sane person actually look at that video and not be angry about what happened to this man no matter what his past or what was in his system or have we entered the arena of public executions

GoodLife 06-06-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1778400)
The MSM has named him. Can you see the difference of a thug killing, and a police officer killing? Neither murder is okay, but police have been getting away with murdering unarmed black men for years, that's what the kneeling at football games was about, but instead of listening many people were outraged, not by the crime but by the peaceful protest. If people had listened we wouldn't be in this mess today.

They actually named him? Wow!! Police have been getting away with murdering unarmed white people for years too. Black people murder more Black people than anyone. All lives matter :MOJE_whot:

wamley 06-06-2020 09:13 AM

Look at the stats, you're wrong.

John_W 06-06-2020 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1778397)
..."I can't breathe" If a black cop was doing that to a white Villager you would be screaming that he murdered him deliberately...


Your example is slightly flawed. Go find a 59 year old villager who in 2009, plead guilty for 1st-degree felony charge of an assault and armed robbery and spent five years in prison for breaking into a lady’s house with the intent to rob her. He wore a blue uniform to look like a government employee to gain the homeowner's trust, and eventually pave his way into the house.

The lady soon realized that the person was impersonating to be a government worker, she tried to shut the door but he brute-forced his way into the house. Consequently, five people exited the truck parked outside the house and went straight inside the house. The man in the phony uniform pressed a pistol to women's stomach and forced his way into the house. This is just a START, there are many more Crimes!!!


https://thecourierdaily.com/wp-conte...nal-record.jpg

anothersteve 06-06-2020 09:14 AM

Good stuff if you go to her twitter page

Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) on Twitter

Steve

pdearmond 06-06-2020 09:19 AM

Just watched...she makes sense for sure

wamley 06-06-2020 09:28 AM

No one I know thinks this death was justitfied or that the Police Officers should not be going to prison, particularly after everything is know. There is a process and most times it doesn't wok as fast as some people think it should. Candice's message was more about her Community and the high light was her speaking about her community (the black/brown community) and how it's the only community to make heroes of people in their community that are not necessarily good people. She mentioned Furgursen as another example. She grew up with this and most of us on this board didn't. Her RANT as she called it is for her community needs to work harder to make things better for themselves. Listen to all she says, don't pick a sentence or a few words to judge her.

John_W 06-06-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1778400)
The MSM has named him. Can you see the difference of a thug killing, and a police officer killing? Neither murder is okay, but police have been getting away with murdering unarmed black men for years,...

Really, Mainstream Media, I haven't seen anything about the murder of retired police officer David Dorn by looters other than on the internet!!!

Police have been getting away with murdering unarmed black men for years - Really - you know this how? You were a cop for many years and watched it happen? Maybe you studied every shooting by a cop and have statistics that back up your statement!! Or, more likely you made it up just now and posted it!!! Don't ever let the facts get in the way of a good STORY!!!


GoodLife 06-06-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778164)
As soon as I saw she was basing her opinion on something that wasn't true, I stopped the video. There's no need to continue watching it at that point.

There is somebody lying about whether Floyd was high on drugs at time of arrest, and it isn't Candace Owens.

From the ME report.

Other significant conditions: Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent methamphetamine use

ithos 06-06-2020 09:44 AM

All Black Lives Matter!
 
An Immigrant who had the benefit of not being brainwashed by our "progressive" media and government school system tells protesters who the real Racists are

Watch – 'Black Lives Matter Is a Joke': Black D.C. Resident Tells Far-Left Group 'Go to Chicago'

for you see Black Lives Matter is a radical left wing organization that should be renamed "Only Some Black Lives Matter".
89% of violent crimes inflicted on Blacks are committed by non-whites.
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf

BLM and their coalition groups only focus on crimes that they can exploit for the achievement of extremist policies, many of which are the same as the Weather Underground Terrorists. Radical activists to discuss next steps of resistance >> Albuquerque Journal

We are anti-capitalist:
We believe and understand that Black people will never achieve liberation under the current global racialized capitalist system.


ABOUT US – M4BL
Movement for Black Lives - Wikipedia

On this list you will not find anything about School Choice, enterprise zones, denouncing the "snitches get stitches" culture that protects criminals or anything whatsoever about bringing down the dangers of violent crime that NO Child in the USA should be subject to.

Quality education in a safe environment should not be denied any child in the inner city. That is what the protests should be about. Not demonizing police.

Bellavita 06-06-2020 09:47 AM

Really
 
DrunK - high- dead
George Floyd was a human being and the police killed him.

End of conversation


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