Smart Girl
 

I truly admire her. Why - because she found a niche that's probably making her a very lot of money. I think that's called capitalism. She says things that white conservatives think but would and could never say. I don't know if she believes everything she says but it doesn't matter. She found an audience and she's capitalizing on it. Good for her. Not too long ago there was a staunch democrat who believed in abortion and said ugly things about republicans. Today he professes to be a staunch conservative that believes in right-to-life. Why the change? Could it be because it got him the presidency? Is he just giving his audience what they want? If you liked most of what Candace said then I would strongly recommend you look up Shelby Steele. He's a black conservative scholar. He's been on Fox. If you don't know how to find him through the internet call your grandchild, they'll walk you though that Google thing - I did. He is truly remarkable. If that's not your thing look up Sharpton.

Defended Hitler? Where is the proof?

So are you saying that if a resident of The Villages was picked up by the police after a night at the square and was staggering a bit that the police should then place that person on the ground and put their knee on that persons neck for 10 minutes causing their death???? hmmmmm

Candace Owens
 

What an intelligent, insightful and extremely courageous young woman. Everyone should listen to her message!

So, we are to believe that when Wikipedia says something, that's all there is to be said :1rotfl:

Fred

Investigate before you believe
 

I would advise that it would be best to find out who this woman is before you accept and spread her opinion. In addition to being black 😊 I find her an opportunist and unreliable. They really do come in all colors.

:thumbup:

So, you don't agree with her therefore you label her a "hater." Please explain where she is a "hater." Was she a hater when she was attacked while dining out? What has she said that is evidence that she is a hater? Is it because she might be conservative? Is it because she might be a Christian? Is it because she does not agree with bad manners of some of her own race, and criticizes it? Just wondering, because I have heard her speak in Congress and on several shows on TV and found her to be refreshing.

You Nailed It!!!!!!! :thumbup:

At least you got one thing right!!!! May I introduce you to the Al Sharpton!!!


https://media.wnyc.org/i/800/0/c/85/1/452390946.jpg

Wikipedia! LOL.

Floyd WAS a criminal. Look at his charges and convictions. He was also under arrest. Facts prove that blacks are treated better today by the police than they were five, ten, fifteen or more years ago. Give the police some credit. Not very many of them are corrupt and they are being weeded out. This was a wrongful death, and unfortunate but COPs are not perfect. That is not an excuse, just a statement. Do not presume that all COPs are bad and do not act amazed when you hear of an incident that was handled wrong. COPs handle the worst of society every day and are bound to make mistakes like other folks. I am not excusing anyone, but I am also not going to make Floyd into some sort of angel. Even his brother said at his funeral that he watched his brother and tried not to make the same mistakes. Floyd did not deserve to die, but I will not mourn him, either. If you live the life of crime, expect unfortunate results.

Boom!!!!💥

Is it just me, or do others also see the flaming hypocrisy of embracing in whole what is said by someone of a different ethnicity, that just happens to agree with them, but dismiss and denigrate with vitriol...the exact opposite?


Re: "You're just an athlete/actor/performer/TV celebrity(oops, better not use that one :D)/Etc....therefore your opinion doesn't count." :oops:

Particularly noteworthy, when it's coming from a mouthpiece/sock-puppet whose lone 'claim to fame'...is to foment lies/anger/hatred.

Which is then perfectly summed up, and breathlessly and wholeheartedly embraced, by the statement of..."just shut up and dribble." :ohdear:

And who would even try to deny, the coded racism...in such a statement? :rolleyes:



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OK. We get you hate Candice Owens and FOX News. But how about addressing even one statement in the 18 minute video that was not true?

WOW...just wow. :oops:

Your last two sentences, negate and prove your previous comments about how you don't think he "deserved" to die...as being totally false. :ohdear:

George Floyd
 

This young lady is somewhat delusional. So sad. When she is out and about
she is George Floyd.....she is equally as susceptible to what happen to him and to Ms. Taylor in Louisville. It hurts to see someone so lost...

You can add tiger woods to list for his comments. He’s getting crucified for his thoughtful statement not insisting violence.

I guess I miss the part where those drugs have no effect on the body until you reach A HIGH. Or possibly compounded with Alcohol or how everyone reacts differently by these mind altering drugs. Or could these drugs have been a factor contributing to his death....certainly all these issues will come out.
Absolutely not that someone should lose their life as a result of a police stop. Absolutely no excuse to loot and the violence directed at ALL Police Officers by the weak minded mobs.

Eloquently spoken (and researched). Thank you :thumbup:

Fred

Thank you for that "revealing" (did I mention comprehensive?) conversation :1rotfl:

Fred

She very clearly stated two things: (1) Derek Chauvin needlessly killed George Floyd and should be convicted of same. (2) She was tired of, and refuses to participate in making a hero of the "bottom feeders" of her race. Her entire argument was with the people making George Floyd a martyr and hero when he was anything but!

Just for the record, I TOTALLY disagree with your characterization of Candice Owens … perhaps you should research her further and reevaluate … just sayin' :icon_wink:

Fred

One delusional young lady.

I think Candice should’ve waited until the dust settles before giving her two-cents. More folks are still upset, and understandably so. Right now, none of the upset people will hear what she is saying. When people are upset and emotional, they don’t want to hear anything that’s contrast to what they want believe is the cause..

AND herewith lies the problem in America, FOR BOTH SIDES! It is obviously repugnant to you that a person could be known as "...an American conservative commentator and political activist." Therefore: you automatically tune out and go on record are against ANYTHING they say. That's sad, because I would challenge you tell me what was untrue in her 18 minute video.

Thankfully, I haven't fallen that far into the abyss! I am admittedly conservative and Republican. BUT, I actually listen to opposing positions and sometimes even agree with them.

Not trying to be insulting but … could you please write more legibly; I have no idea what you're trying to say!

Fred

Or, is it just the opposite? Double entendre comes to mind. :icon_wink:

Fred

You make two statements, both addressed and disproved by the video. (1) You claim George Floyd was not a criminal. If 5 proven prison sentences, the last being armed home invasion against a pregnant woman, don't prove you ARE a criminal, what does. (2) She addressed, and you can easily research yourself, to disprove that blacks are more likely to be falsely suspected and inhumanely treated.

Candace Owens vehemently clarifies that George Floyd was wrongfully killed by Derek Chauvin, and that Chauvin should be convicted for same. Her point was simply stated that she was tired of her race deifying the "bottom feeders" of her race as martyrs and heros.

You embarrass me Bill because I too am retired Army! You offer nothing but a two personal insults about the author. How about pointing out even one falsehood contained in the 18 minutes of video?

Listen to her words...she is intellligent and thought provoking
 

If you listen to her words and forget your mass media supplied opinions of the entire situation you will realize she is intellligent and thought provoking. Regardless of your political stance, she points out the death was wrong and should be punished, however, the martyar creation of people dying at the hands of police is not what the black community should be advancing. All Lives Matter.....black, white, yellow, or brown. Wrongful death should not be tolerated and must be punished to the fullest extent. At the same time, all deaths should be held to the same standard, whether Minneapolis, Chicago, Dallas, St. Louis, or rural America.

You're Right!
 

She's an Opportunist and a Hater! She's Courageous and Brilliant! You're both right (or left) depending on your ideological views. For those of you who have an open mind and want to hear from a true scholarly black conservative set your DVR to Fox News tomorrow (Sunday) evening at 11 PM. I would say watch it but it is at 11 PM and I am corresponding with TV residents so I know better. One of the speakers will be Shelby Steele. He's a Senior Fellow at Standford University. That's kind of an oxymoron, a Conservative at a California university. Sorry got sidetracked. Watch it and I think you'll be both educated and amazed. I've heard him speak before and that was my reaction.

Shelby Steele - Wikipedia

Providing a link.

Drunk? So what??? Big guy? Yes. Strong guy? Yes. 4 rotten cops couldn’t subdue him ( if that be the case) so one kneeled on his neck and killed him. People are wrongly focusing on the man. I’m focusing on the intentional murder of a black man.

Murder is still wrong in all caees
 

No matter what George Floyd’s condition was, killing him was not the answer

And it sounds like he was trying to pass a counterfeit 20 dollar bill and if in a drugged state would not have had the intention to commit a crime. He probably did not know it was a phony bill. But I do not have the facts.

The MN Attorney General was very careful as a law student at the U of MN. He was class of 1990. I am Class of 1989. I did not have any classes with him that I recall but my girlfriend while in law school was Class of 1990 and would have had classes with him. She did mention him quite often though as he was one of the few African-American students at the U of MN Law School while I was there.

Keith Ellison would go by the facts. He is the AG for Minnesota right now.

What a horrible thing to say. The druggie that he was? The man was casually murdered and you come out with that comment? Obnoxious.

Good to point out that she may also have history. Maybe a perspective. But, Fentanyl has a reputation for making people crazy and violent. How much is just a little?

I read that the person that called 911 said Floyd was acting high and not in control of himself.

Besides being provocative, very harsh.