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anothersteve 06-07-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1779362)
White liberal explains racism to black woman. :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

:boom:
Steve

Antique lady 06-07-2020 03:01 PM

Are you speaking of me? Saying I am trying to explain the issue of race?

anothersteve 06-07-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779375)
Are you speaking of me? Saying I am trying to explain the issue of race?

Without a quote no one knows who you are addressing.
Steve

ColdNoMore 06-07-2020 03:08 PM

Candace Owens - Con Artist (click here)


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That said, Owens is a fraud and we have endless receipts.

Lawsuit With the NAACP

Owens now calls the NAACP “one of the worst groups for Black people,” even though the organization helped her win a racial discrimination lawsuit. In 2007, she accused some white boys of racially harassing and threatening to kill her. Owens claimed the boys were the son of then-Stamford Mayor Dannel Malloy, Connecticut’s former governor. Because of the NAACP, Owens’ family received a settlement of $37,500 from Stamford Public Schools.

Scot X. Esdaile, the Connecticut NAACP president who helped Owens with her lawsuit, was shocked to hear she had become a conservative. Esdaile told Mic, “We’re very saddened and disappointed in her. It seems to me that she’s now trying to play to a different type of demographic.”



By March of 2018, Owens was slithering onto TV stations and finally made it to Fox News. She spit out a line that went viral and made her a darling of pseudo-conservatives. Owens said the National Rifle Association was founded as a civil rights organization that protected Black people from the KKK. Even the Fox News host said, “I’ve never heard that before! That’s so interesting!”

She never heard it before, either, because it was a lie.


Click on the link, for other examples of how she's simply cashing in on...what she thinks will make her money.

A lot of you folks are being played...like a fiddle. :D

Then again, being a con person doesn't carry nearly the negative connotations that it did...not so very long ago.
:ohdear:

karostay 06-07-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778031)
She's assuming he was high because he had the presence of methamphetamines and fentanyl in his bloodstream. Either that or she understands full well that the amount in his bloodstream indicates that he wasn't high, and she's lying on purpose to prove a point that she isn't able to make without lying.

Not surprising for her, she does this often.

Guess you made an assuption instead of listening

anothersteve 06-07-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779375)
Are you speaking of me? Saying I am trying to explain the issue of race?

I'll try to help, see post 239
Steve

anothersteve 06-07-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1779385)
Candace Owens - Con Artist (click here)





Click on the link, for other examples of how she's simply cashing in on...what she thinks will make her money.

A lot of you folks are being played...like a fiddle. :D

Then again, being a con person doesn't carry nearly the negative connotations that it did...not so very long ago.
:ohdear:

Doesn't matter if you are black or white, left is left

NewsOne - Media Bias/Fact Check
Steve

Byte1 06-07-2020 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosemary May (Post 1779055)
He still did not deserve to be snuffed out like an insect under that officer's knee. How can you be so cruel? How can you keep doing that when the person is telling you he can't breathe and that you are killing him? He is heartless. Plus, his wife filed for divorce right away. Could he have been abusive towards her also?

How do you know that this was intentional? You don't, so let the court decide. Let's face it, even if the guy was purposely killed no one is even going to miss him. He was an excuse for more protesting and rioting. Even his brother said "I watched him growing up so I would know what NOT to do."
Sorry, but I won't mourn him. However, I DO mourn a very good retired police Capt that was killed by looters. Notice that I did not mention his race or the looters races, because wrong is wrong regardless of race.

Byte1 06-07-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779322)
Education is always the key. This young woman needs to educate herslelf about the history of this nation. She speaks without the benefit of knowledge.

I would advise all to view the History Channel's documentary entitled Black Wall Street which shares the story of the Tulsa massacre of African Americans when an ill informed white mob descends on their community. Go to youtube and type in Black Wall Street, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Black Wall Street - Full Documentary - YouTube

It illustrates the lengths whites have historically be willing to go in order to feel superior. Such thinking has always led to death and destruction..

Another broad stroke of the brush. All whites are bad and all blacks have been penalized because of their color. Got it.

John_W 06-07-2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779365)
...I am from that part of the country, near Tulsa, and the scars are deep but people there coexist without resentment. We are all just trying to live our best lives.....

I don't think you know what you think you know. My first wife of 14 years is from Tulsa and lives there now. I've been there many times. It's nothing like you explained it was. They have more racial divide there then anywhere I've been in the south.

I've lived conservative places, Savannah for one about ten years total over two different decades, nice place, everyone gets along great. Just four hours away is Atlanta, I lived there also, black mayor, terrible crime, worse place I've ever lived. It's the only place that I had car almost stolen. The city is horrible, that's why built a new baseball stadium to replace one that was only 20 years old, they moved it out to the suburbs.

Velvet 06-07-2020 03:57 PM

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saratogaman 06-07-2020 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778031)
She's assuming he was high because he had the presence of methamphetamines and fentanyl in his bloodstream. Either that or she understands full well that the amount in his bloodstream indicates that he wasn't high, and she's lying on purpose to prove a point that she isn't able to make without lying.

Not surprising for her, she does this often.

So, allegedly being 'high' is a crime and permits a cop to kill him on the spot? Was he charged and tried and sentenced by a court?

Ray Greene 06-07-2020 04:08 PM

Black lives matter to whom?
 
Over 90% of black murders are by other blacks. Less than 4% by police.
When is the black community going to teach their own population that black lives matter.
I believe in it and I’m white
When will the black community get on board.

Antique lady 06-07-2020 04:25 PM

Just meant that people in Tulsa that know the history of the Black Wall Street Massacre are determined to not see that horrific chapter repeat itself...

Griff3542 06-07-2020 04:26 PM

A very bright young lady that pretty much sums up the whole situation. I posted it on my page in Facebook.

Antique lady 06-07-2020 04:36 PM

Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

Byte1 06-07-2020 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778886)
The police DID kill him. It wasn't "the angry mob" or "the protesters" or "the pedestrians" or "the passersby" or "the people crossing the street." And everyone would know, if you had used any of those phrases, that it wasn't ALL angry mobs, and it wouldn't have been ALL protesters, or ALL pedestrians, or ALL passersby, or ALL the people crossing the street. In any other situation, you would know that she was referring to the specific police who were there at the time. It wasn't just one police officer. It was four police officers. So the use of the plural form of "police" was accurate and appropriate.

The police DID kill him. Four police officers, to be specific. "THE" (meaning - something other than ALL) police did kill George Floyd.

Are you not using the word "police" as a plural? If I said "THE" crowd broke into the store, would I be referring to one or many? Nice Michael Jackson moon walk though.

Swoop 06-07-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosemary May (Post 1779055)
He still did not deserve to be snuffed out like an insect under that officer's knee. How can you be so cruel? How can you keep doing that when the person is telling you he can't breathe and that you are killing him? He is heartless. Plus, his wife filed for divorce right away. Could he have been abusive towards her also?

Would you be less outraged if the officer was black or if Floyd was white?

tedquick 06-07-2020 05:00 PM

Evidence, please
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778031)
She's assuming he was high because he had the presence of methamphetamines and fentanyl in his bloodstream. Either that or she understands full well that the amount in his bloodstream indicates that he wasn't high, and she's lying on purpose to prove a point that she isn't able to make without lying.

Not surprising for her, she does this often.

I have never know her to lie, or for that matter, stretch the truth. Please site examples. If you have solid evidence then I'll reconsider my position regarding her. I think she is one extremely bright young lady and a lady she is.

Antique lady 06-07-2020 05:01 PM

Mr. Floyd's criminal background does not absolve the officer who murdered him. Let's stop looking for reasons to say he derserved to be murdered. He did not....He may have been high, he may have been a large person but he was murdered while restrained. No way to say that's OK...

Youtube is an amazing platform. Many successful people, in popular culture, were discovered via youtube. I think several people on this thread are simply pointing out that in this tribal environment deciding what sells can boost ones prominence... This young woman is clearly aware of the impact her words will have on the group she is appealing to.

All done for me. I hope some of you will watch Netflix documentary 13, and the History Channel's documentary, Black Wall Street Massacre. No one can undo our past. No one can justify the murder of a person because they have a rap sheet. We can not absolve those few bad apples in uniform who kill unarmed people on the streets of this country.

It has been interesting to read the thoughts posted here...

Byte1 06-07-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779444)
Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

The FBI also says that through out the past years that there is reporting on it, there were more whites EVERY year killed by blacks than blacks killed by whites. Not that this matters on this subject. It also says that more whites are killed every year than blacks by law enforcement. It is interesting how some folks WISH to make everything about "color." If Floyd was white, it would not have been made a big deal and there would have been NO protests or rioting. If the reporting was colorless, and there was no video then this whole thing would not be even discussed.

I am more concerned about the retired police Capt that was shot and killed by looters. And I think that Ms. Owens probably feels the same way. I have heard Owens speak on many occasions, either on TV or on the Internet and I find her very refreshing. She speaks with common sense and I have NEVER heard her speak in any manner that would indicate "hate."

manaboutown 06-07-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779444)
Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

‪Interracial Violent Victimizations (Excluding Homicide) Between Blacks And Whites (2018)‬
‪Total: 593,598‬
‪Committed By Blacks Against Whites: 537,204 (approx. 90%)‬
‪Committed By Whites Against Blacks: 56,394 (less than 10%)‬
‪--Bureau of Justice Statistics‬
From Larry Elder on FB

And remember blacks are only 13% of the population; whites 60%.

eyc234 06-07-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1779331)

Well stated!

The sad fact is that she, like so many others, have no clue as to what her ancestors had to suffer and go through, just so she can even just publicly express her views...regardless of how wrong-headed they are. :ohdear:

Just as so many have never stopped to even comprehend, that at the beginning of this nation, African-Americans were the ONLY immigrants...brought here in ropes and chains.
:mad:


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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1779351)

Why don't you address the subject of the thread, by using generic responses, instead of throwing out specific personal attacks...at those you don't like? :oops:

If you took personal umbrage at one of my generic statements, because you thought it applied to you...that's not my problem. :rolleyes:

Thank you.
:ho:


Okay, here are the quotes that I read. Thought I quoted your statements that are in the thread. I do not even know you, how could you think I have a feeling either way about you? I did not take that you were talking about me, just that there is a lot of assumptions and accusations on both sides being said about Ms Owens, whom no one on this forum know personally ( I would venture), that do nothing to help any situation.

Bethwill 06-07-2020 06:09 PM

His rap sheet is for real no matter the drug level in his body. Look it up.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-07-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1779445)
Are you not using the word "police" as a plural? If I said "THE" crowd broke into the store, would I be referring to one or many? Nice Michael Jackson moon walk though.

Yes of course I'm using it as plural. That's the point. It wasn't just one police officer there. There were four of them, three of whom were actively restraining Floyd while he died. One of them had a knee on his neck. His spine and his legs were also being knelt on by the other two officers. Only one of the four officers was not physically restraining George Floyd. That was the Tao guy, who turned to watch the other three doing it, and made sure to prevent the people on the sidewalk from getting around the side to get a better video of what was going on.

John_W 06-07-2020 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779438)
Just meant that people in Tulsa that know the history of the Black Wall Street Massacre are determined to not see that horrific chapter repeat itself...

History Channel's documentary, Black Wall Street Massacre. No one can undo our past. No one can justify the murder of a person because they have a rap sheet. We can not absolve those few bad apples in uniform who kill unarmed people on the streets of this country.

I'm glad you're getting your money's worth for the History Channel. Because something happened in Tulsa 100 years ago, every white person in Tulsa walks around everyday thinking to themselves, I'm got to do better toward black folk because of the Tulsa Massacre of 1921!!!!

Does that also happen to white people in Richmond? Vicksburg?? How about black people, do they go around everyday thinking, I've got to do better toward white people because of a black man raped and killed a white woman!!!


Love2Swim 06-07-2020 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779457)
Mr. Floyd's criminal background does not absolve the officer who murdered him. Let's stop looking for reasons to say he derserved to be murdered. He did not....He may have been high, he may have been a large person but he was murdered while restrained. No way to say that's OK...

Youtube is an amazing platform. Many successful people, in popular culture, were discovered via youtube. I think several people on this thread are simply pointing out that in this tribal environment deciding what sells can boost ones prominence... This young woman is clearly aware of the impact her words will have on the group she is appealing to.

All done for me. I hope some of you will watch Netflix documentary 13, and the History Channel's documentary, Black Wall Street Massacre. No one can undo our past. No one can justify the murder of a person because they have a rap sheet. We can not absolve those few bad apples in uniform who kill unarmed people on the streets of this country.

It has been interesting to read the thoughts posted here...

I found some of the thoughts rather sickening, that people can be so ignorant. I'd be willing to bet most won't watch any of the documentaries because they will hear facts that do not coincide with their way of thinking and do not jive with the drivel they hear on Fox news.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-07-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 1779456)
I have never know her to lie, or for that matter, stretch the truth. Please site examples. If you have solid evidence then I'll reconsider my position regarding her. I think she is one extremely bright young lady and a lady she is.

This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

manaboutown 06-07-2020 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1779499)
This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

Candace Owens is a brave and beautiful critically thinking young lady who tells it like it is. She does not buy into all the urban myth, PC lock step brainwashing drivel that comes from the so called mainstream media. Kudos to her!

anothersteve 06-07-2020 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1779499)
This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

Being an "Uncle Tom" then and now are two completely different beasts.
She calls out the black Liberals....NOW.........that's what she means, that's what they hate. That's why she calls herself an "Uncle Tom". I commend her for that, especially during these times.
As for the "Blexit" thing KW isn't so clean himself.

Steve

anothersteve 06-07-2020 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779457)
Mr. Floyd's criminal background does not absolve the officer who murdered him. Let's stop looking for reasons to say he derserved to be murdered. He did not....

It has been interesting to read the thoughts posted here...

You will not find one post here where anyone said "he deserved to be "murdered"" There wasn't even a post "absolving" anyone for what happened. Please look back from the very beginning of this thread.. let us know what you find.
Steve

ColdNoMore 06-07-2020 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1779395)
Doesn't matter if you are black or white, left is left

NewsOne - Media Bias/Fact Check
Steve


Per your own link.


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We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting due to a lack of transparency, despite proper sourcing of information and a clean fact check record.

Thank you. :ho:

anothersteve 06-07-2020 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1779531)

Per your own link.





Thank you. :ho:

Pick and choose.
Steve

B767drvr 06-07-2020 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1779385)
Candace Owens - Con Artist (click here)





Click on the link, for other examples of how she's simply cashing in on...what she thinks will make her money.

A lot of you folks are being played...like a fiddle. :D

Then again, being a con person doesn't carry nearly the negative connotations that it did...not so very long ago.
:ohdear:

Whatever happened to attacking the MESSAGE, versus attacking the MESSENGER?

A sure sign someone is losing an argument when they resort to ad hominem attack. :ohdear:

I have no idea what part of Ms. Owens' message, if any, you disagree with. It appears you agree with her message, but don't "like" her as a person. Have I got that right?

B767drvr 06-07-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1779499)
This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

Same thing... you're attacking the MESSENGER, not the MESSAGE.

What part of her message, besides the fentanyl intoxication, do you disagree with? It was an 18-minute video and she asserted many points, yet I haven't heard anything you disagree with.

mtdjed 06-07-2020 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1779519)
You will not find one post here where anyone said "he deserved to be "murdered"" There wasn't even a post "absolving" anyone for what happened. Please look back from the very beginning of this thread.. let us know what you find.
Steve

Why argue with these folks? They don't accept reason. Your reminder above has been stated many times. They ask for proof and it is given and they don't accept. They feel free to malign persons with a different position. Not willing to admit that other persons are entitled to their opinions.

I am starting to agree with Vatican's Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò. Oh wait, now they will say he has no credibility.

Hayek1957 06-08-2020 05:05 AM

Ignorance
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778164)
As soon as I saw she was basing her opinion on something that wasn't true, I stopped the video. There's no need to continue watching it at that point.

When any individual refuses to listen to another’s opinion, that individual is practicing willful ignorance.

dewilson58 06-08-2020 05:15 AM

I don't remember the current reaction to:


'''You'''re gonna kill me!''': Dallas police body cam footage reveals the final minutes of Tony Timpa'''s life

Swoop 06-08-2020 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1779569)

That’s because the national news networks never even picked up the story. It didn’t fit their narrative of police brutality against blacks. It’s not what they want us to be outraged about. Statistics don’t support the media’s drivel, but they will continue to push their agenda.

OhioBuckeye 06-08-2020 08:33 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1779130)
How did you come to that conclusion?? What part didn't you understand??

Here's a lesson in Comprehension 101!!!!




That guy is just like the people who get up everyday and try and think of ways to sue Walmart. What am I going to do today to agitate the police and get myself on television. Even the black mayor of Buffalo called out the guy!!!!!! Kind of makes you look silly now to bring this up!!! A person who only looks at the surface of matter and doesn't do any research will jump at conclusions. The Mayor of Buffalo, a African American Democrat can even see this person is nothing more than an agitator!! He has comprehension about the situation. Buffalo is a blue collar town, this Mayor has a head on his shoulders!!!


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06...1416000513.jpg

Buffalo, N.Y., Mayor Byron Brown (D) on Friday said he was told that the 75-year-old man who was pushed down by police in a viral video was a “major instigator” and an “agitator.”

“According to what was reported to me, that individual was a key and major instigator,” Brown told WBEN in a radio interview.

In a graphic video shot by a WBFO journalist earlier in the week, Martin Gugino is seen slowly approaching the police until one officer tells him to move and pushes him.

A person can be heard yelling, “He’s bleeding out of his ear!” and calling out for medics. Gugino is then seen lying on his back with blood spilling from his ear.

Brown claimed that the police asked Gugino to leave the premises several times as law enforcement tried to disperse protesters after an 8 p.m. curfew.

"He was trying to spark up the crowd of people,” Brown said. “Those people were there into the darkness. Our concern is when it gets dark, there is a potential for violence. There has been vandalism. There have been fires set. There have been stores broken into and looted. According to what was reported to me, that individual was a key and major instigator of people engaging in those activities."

I agree, but what does starting fires & looting have to do with protesting. I thought protesting was about not agreeing with something that’s going on or something said or done, not breaking into stores & stealing or burning someone’s livelihood. Now they want to defund our peace makers so these people can do this without resistant! Who’s stupid idea was this?


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